User

user,
when did you first realize that life was unfair ?

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early

5

when I found out my mom was having sex with my brother but not with me

Sucks to be you, I guess, my life is amazing.

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why didn't you rape her?

I think I was aware of it in my early teens, I've always known things have been pretty fucked.

It probably wasn't until age 19 or 20 when I actually started researching things and understanding it, instead of just "having a hunch".

>men are overwhelmingly more oppressed, abused, taken advantage of and discarded than women
>yet most people believe women are the oppressed gender

>gun control is completely nonsensical, and in many cases actually makes crime worse
>the people at the top only want it to disarm the public
>yet many people (fortunately not a majority) believe we need more gun control

>your likelihood of success in life is 80, 90%+ based entirely on random chance
>ie as long as you're lucky, it's possible to become successful even with work
>but if you're unlucky it doesn't matter how hard you work - luck trumps all

>the vast majority of people are so hopelessly brainwashed as to be almost worthless
>"No good deed goes unpunished" is no truer than in politics and trying to change society's backwards beliefs

>Age of consent (and the vast majority of sexual-based laws) are not just literally sexist in the verbiage (against men), but also used many times more often to punish consensual sex than to actually stop bad people

>The vast majority of laws are in place because someone is profiting from them
>Nearly all the rest are in place because the unwashed masses gathered together and said "We don't like this, so it should be illegal"
>In both cases, the laws either do nothing to make our lives better or are actually used to punish/destroy/kill innocent people for profit or for the twisted "morality" (if you can even call it that) of our country

Around 4th grade. I started to gain a real sense of what poverty and other things were. There were kids at my school who lived at a home (I forget the general term) where their parents were deemed unfit to care for them. After Christmas I gained a sense I shouldn't talk about the presents I got. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not a SJW but I gained a sense of my place in the world and how fortunate I was.

Anyone ever feel uncomfortable around people who clearly know you're better off than them?

watching malcom in the middle

8 or 9 I think

13.

When spiderman 3 came out and it sucked. I was 12 or 13 at the time. Being about to go into junior high and being am out of shape shlup that listened to rage against the machine didnt help either. I think im better off now even if I am still generally unhappy at sthe current state of affairs.

>Anyone ever feel uncomfortable around people who clearly know you're better off than them?

I hate rich people, despite being from a more or less middle class family. I have no student loan debt, got a car paid off (a Mazda, not a BMW), and currently live in my parent's second house rent-free while I'm getting myself established.

I'm not a rich kid, I've never driven a BMW, never lived in a 6,000 square foot mansion. But I also don't have to worry about crippling student loan debt, I don't have to worry about a shitbox car that might not start, and I don't have to worry about medical problems because my family can afford insurance.

I have very little respect for rich kids and rich people - I view them as my enemies, despite the fact that I'm going to be a rich people probably within the next few years from my own ventures (not inheritance).

that christmas i didnt get the one thing i asked for even though i was good.

like 27 years ago
btw i'm 27

4 i guess

>be 3
>watching television
>ask mother why the children on the TV live in such tiny houses
>mother explains that it's because they're poor and can't afford mansions like us

Life is only unfair if you're on the losing side, kiddos. Better luck next time.

>>no student loan debt (i assume this means your parents paid 100% of your tuition)
>>free car
>>parents own multiple houses
you are most definitely not middle class i hate to break it to you

When my best friend fucked my gf

When I realized my parents house could fit inside my best friends garage.

>(i assume this means your parents paid 100% of your tuition)

Not him, but in the US pretty much everyone middle class or under qualifies for FAFSA which pays 100% of your tuition, assuming you're not going to an ivy league private school. It's lazy, retarded Bernie supporters who don't even look into what benefits are already available to them that cry about this shit.

this kids parents own 2 houses and you think he qualifies for fucking FAFSA?

You were probably watching me.

When a girl cheated on her bf because he wasn't spending time on her due to his grandma being in the hospital. He had to spend all the weekends over there while his dad spent the weekdays due to not wanting to leave her alone. He also had to work and study, so he had basically no time for her.
She is currently cheating on him with me, we have a secret relationship that's been going on for a month now. She meets me and we fuck either in my car or a motel. Also I got a raise in a start-up tech company.
I fucking love my life.

That doesn't really mean much. Houses where? A shitty house in California can go for $500k. In some states you could pick up 3 extremely nice homes on acres and acres of land for the same price.

2nd grade, read a book about stars exploding into blackholes and realized not only that i'd die but that everyone would and eventually it'd all be for nothing.

When someone pushed me in kindergarten and I pushed back and got spotted by the teacher aid who had me stand by the wall. Our literal exchange was...

"But that's not fair!"
"LIFE'S NOT FAIR!"

I just stood there in shock at this realization and spent the rest of my life seeking to make every encounter with anyone as fair as possible in defiance of her.

Dad earned 100-200k a year between about 2000 and 2006 - since then it's been a lot lower, around 60-80k.

School was paid for by my parents, grandparents on dad's side, and grandparents on mother's side, and involved (for my grandparents) saving money specifically for education for decades. It definitely wasn't paid out of pocket from their paychecks - it was years of planning.

Car was $23,000, paid for by dad's parents. Again paid out of savings over decades, not from paychecks.

My parents own two houses, but are also in their late 50s and in a low cost of living state. If this were California I'd say yeah, because that'd be minimum $1.5 or $2 million, but the total value of their houses is... probably $700k?

My yearly income is somewhere around $6-$9,000; I'm not living large. I still worry about money constantly because I've never had stable or even reasonable income.

Better off than most people in the US yeah, maybe top 10-15%. But nowhere near rich kids or the 1%; I have a grand total of about $500 in net worth right now.

Interesting, because I tried to get scholarships for my out of state engineering degree and I got a grand total of... $2,000 per year.

My parents didn't make less than $40,000 a year, so there goes half of all scholarships. I'm a man, so there's another 25%. I'm white, so there goes another 20%. I had good grades, but not a perfect 4.0 so I didn't qualify for the merit-based scholarships which are *the* most competitive because they're the only ones that white and Asian men are allowed to qualify for.

When I was a kid. I was very awkward, had a speech impediment, and after my parents divorced when I was six I started wetting the bed.

Now I'm an adult and things are definitely better but not great. My dad moved to a different city recently, so this is the first Christmas that I can't see both my parents.

And can I get some advice here? I have a friend. I dated her in 2013 for a couple of months. We're best friends now. Sometimes I just feel unappreciated. She's a single mom. The father died when she was only like 8 weeks pregnant. The baby is 7 months old. For Christmas she got me a cup. I really like it. But she didn't wrap it or give me a card, she just had it in her purse and gave it to me. I gave her a card for the baby that plays music with a check for $100 in it. I got her some canvas and paint, since she loves to paint but has no money for supplies. I know that she opened at least baby's card already because she already cashed the check. I just paid a bill and saw. She didn't text me thank you or anything. I thought maybe she didn't want me to know she opened it early, but why cash it then?

I've given her money several times, plus I pay when we go out most times. Last month she asked me for $20 and I transferred her $90. I was hoping she'd take some of the $70 extra and get me a present. She told me the cup was $11. I just wish that she put a little bit more effort in. If she wrapped it and had a card saying like "thanks for being a good friend" and texted me thank you when opening my gift I'd be really happy. But now I just wonder whether she cares.

When niggers and Democrats don't have to work!

When I fucked up

When I was a sperm in my father's nutsack

Strangled at birth.

I was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck - a "blue baby".

>having savings over decades
Dont talk to me rich kid

Dude, stop. Every sentence is hurting me. I can't tell if I should laugh at you or cry for you. Bro, just stop.

do you have any mental deficits?

>And can I get some advice here?
Now that's something you don't often see here. I hope you actually want advice, and not just to argue with people.

1) Stop giving other adults money, that's weird

2) You've given her money in the past, you just randomly give her money now. She's never done what you wanted before, so why do you think all of a sudden she's going to "come around" and start doing what you want because you give her cash?

That's weird user. What you're doing doesn't make sense. I know I'm being harsh and that's because I used to think like you are thinking now, and I realized that it was fucking stupid.

Here's my advice: stop giving her money. Don't try to explain why you're giving her money, I don't give a shit and it doesn't matter; stop giving her money.

When I found out my male counterpart was getting paid more money then me for the same work.

That's debatable.

Life IS fair

It's your expectations of life that is unfair.

>have basic needs provided for
>barely make enough to live
>rich kid
(you)

any severe impairments, i meant.

Yeah looks like you're getting used bruh. Sorry.

I know what you're thinking. I don't want to get back with her. I could fuck her if I wanted to.

A few weeks ago we were out drinking. She tells me that her boyfriend has a small dick and sucks in bed. She says that she wants to dump him but doesn't know how, plus he's good with the baby.

After the bar we go to my place for music. She walks into my bedroom and lies down on my bed. I know what she wants. But I just want to be friends.

I do want to be good friends though. I want her to care about me and appreciate the things I do for her.

>Hundreds or thousands of innocent men are falsely imprisoned every year for rape that never happened, simply as a result of a woman "getting back" at them or to cover up infidelity.
>this is fair
Please, explain.

I'd have to say from the way you described the situation that she doesn't care for you as much as you do for her. I think she probably does care for you because of her getting you something but honestly you need to not give her so much for so little. You're setting yourself up for getting used in the future. Idk, I know that when I give my best friends something they are always super forward about how much they appreciate it.

your a bit of a shitty person

>I want her to care about me and appreciate the things I do for her.
This WILL NOT HAPPEN just because you give her money. In fact, giving her money will *make it* not happen.

That's the most retarded thing I've seen today and we had a bus of special needs children that came to the museum I work at.

Stop being a lazy fuck and actually work. I’m guessing he either puts in more hours or takes less time off, or if commission based then does more work to get paid more.

She's a single mom. She has a boyfriend but he's a piece of shit with even less money than her and $40,000 of debt.

The father of her child was murdered. She needed $20 for gas because she misjudged how much gas money she needed to go to the sentencing hearing to deliver her victim impact statement (he was away on work when he was murdered, so it's a long drive).

I love her and I love her daughter. I just want to feel appreciated.

Case in point. Life is not only unfair, it is almost entirely based on pure, random chance. Luck.

Life is luck first, all other factors in a far second.

When the girl I did it with started calling me help

Nothing like a drooping eye or a useless arm.


I've had a really sensitive nerve thing all my life - shingles, fibro, carpal tunnel, can't walk real well now due to my spine affecting my legs.

This guy thought he was being deep.

Hard to pinpoint, exactly. Likely when I saw just how many people had things just handed to them or completely lucked out and live comfortably without any effort.

>FAFSA which pays 100% of your tuition

Ha, who told you that?

In 2002 I cut some kid at school and it hit a viddle artery and killed him, I’ have lived with that my whole life.

When I was 6 and my mom went to rehab for the first time

>the persecuted white male shrieks again

She is sometimes. Like here was her asking for $20

Were you aiming for it?

don't lie

>I love her and I love her daughter. I just want to feel appreciated.
Giving someone money not only doesn't make this happen, it will deter or completely stop it from happening.

God damn son

I know you're trolling, but people on Reddit literally think like that

Well when she tells me she has $8.12 in her account and her car payment is tomorrow I don't know what I'm supposed to do. She needs the car to take care of her baby.

You've got to admit he's exaggerating or at least a hilarious case. The complaints were about being oppressed as a man, not having enough access to guns, life is all luck, most of society is stupid and brainwashed, age of consent is sexist against men (which says all kinds of sick shit about him), and laws are there because those in control profit.

It hits every basement dwelling talking point. Seem like trolling

I was to young to know what it would do so no I was not trying to hit ti

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You obviously don't know shit about FAFSA.

Hence the stuff about brainwashing and propaganda. Case in point, your post.

>men are the evil oppressors of the world, they get treated better everywhere and always, women are always the victims and men can't be victimized

Well, how about we talk about facts? Opinions don't have much bearing on how the world actually is.

Young professional women make 10-20% more than their male counterparts

>content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html

In 2010, 51% of domestic violence victims were men [Table 2.2]

>cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/cdc_nisvs_ipv_report_2013_v17_single_a.pdf

Men represent 80% of suicide victims

>afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/

In some countries nearly 90% of suicide victims are men

>bcmj.org/articles/silent-epidemic-male-suicide

93% of workplace fatalities are men

>nytimes.com/2016/12/20/us/workplace-deaths-2015.html?_r=0

91% of wartime fatalities are men

>politicalviolenceataglance.org/2013/07/11/male-victimhood-in-armed-conflict/

More than 1/4 of sexual assault and rape carried out in war is committed by women

>usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/SR323.pdf

Almost a quarter of men experience sexual assault or rape in conflict

>usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/SR323.pdf

Women view 80% of men as "below average". Put another way, if this distribution were applied to intelligence, more than 2/3 of men would be considered mentally retarded

>theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e

In 84% of divorces, women are awarded custody of the children

>www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p60-225.pdf

Well???

Why did you go all Stabby McSlashyface on him?

i appreciate this post

Damn, I forgot how much time bitter virgins have to piece together flimsy arguments that conveniently only address a fraction of their claims.

I think you should try to spend some time trying to understand your relationship with her, maybe go through old messages and see how conversations start and end. If it's often that she asks for things maybe track it all down and add it up. She very well may appreciate what you do for her but you need to evaluate your relationship with her and see if you're putting in an unhealthy amount of effort in comparison to her.

Need to apply a larger perspective with history and context. As well as philosophical connotations since even the smartest of us cannot define what "life" is.

In the case of the falsely-accused man (that would require more details; down to what kind of gum the accuser chews on to what is the man's favorite movie), it's the age old conflict of one group of people subverting their own will and agenda on to another.

>Hundred or thousands
....too big, too vague....

got to go case by case, do away with generalizations. And get more details in the mix.

Crazy chick fighting against 10,000 years of patriarchy? .....and the accused man stuck his dick in her?

Life is about as fair as sticking your foot in a bear trap. What did you think was going to happen?

Beginning of elementary

you think too small.
I am

Ah but wait, let's do a few more

2/3 of men who report being sexually assaulted or raped, were attacked by women. On top of that, male victimization is so massively underreported as to be almost laughable. Police, courts, and society are openly hostile toward male victims.

>broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/kze8qn/the-hidden-epidemic-of-men-who-are-raped-by-women

In 85% of abusive relationships, the woman is abusive

>reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6jpatm/harvard_study_shows_the_main_reason_wives_divorce/djgle2p/

In 60% of cases where a child is murdered by their parents, the child is male

>acf.hhs.gov/cb/resource/child-maltreatment-2006

Again, you're trolling but people actually literally think like that. It's really sad.

>Life is about as fair as sticking your foot in a bear trap. What did you think was going to happen?
>having consensual sex is like sticking your foot in a bear trap
You see how that doesn't make sense? It shouldn't be like that.

I've found that recently I've initiated a lot of the conversations. She doesn't ask for things often, part of why I sent more than the $20 she asked for was that she usually says no when I try to give her money. She wouldn't ask for it unless she really needed it. I am fairly confident she would have ended up stuck on the highway if I didn't transfer her money.

When we go out she tries to pay. But if we're both offering to pay the waitress usually lets me pay. I sometimes pay when she's in the bathroom. Other times I'll let her pay.

She puts effort in too. Like she'll bring her baby to my place to visit. I appreciate that. I don't like driving to her place, and I'm more comfortable in my own home. It's nice to get to hangout with both of them without needing to go anywhere.

She's had a tough life. I just wish she put more effort into the little things.

when I got friendzoned, and later of this year got NTR'ed

If that's how it is I can understand feeling underappreciated, she may just be overwhelmed though. Having a baby and the death of a partner is a lot to deal with in 7 months, she probably realizes all you do for her then but might be too embarrassed to acknowledge it. She may also be confused by you, you want to be her best friend but nothing more than that, it's not like that's wrong but it could just make things even more confusing if she want something more from you.

there you go blaming the victim

Yeah... I don't know whether she wants to date me. Sometimes she's been ashamed to take money from me.

Side note... she had a shitty boyfriend who she lived with. This was prior to the man who she got pregnant with. She would cheat on him with me. We used to even makeout behind his garage without knowing whether he was home.

We've had a "will they or won't they" thing going on at times. She's very hot (which is why she has no trouble finding boyfriends, even with a baby), so yeah, there's that, and we get along great, but it is much simpler now. I love being an "uncle" to her child, but I'm not really prepared to be a father. I like getting drunk with her and listening to music and all that, but I don't need more from our relationship.

>She's had a tough life. I just wish she put more effort into the little things.
She night not know how to.
My wife had a better upbringing then me and had to show me things that never occurred to me.
Like how to be happy for someone else's good fortune, how to accept a present, etc.

Enjoy getting fucked over for the rest of your life. That "hate the rich" attitude will push you lower and lower into the social and economic strata.

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>You see how that doesn't make sense? It shouldn't be like that.

Makes perfect sense.

Did you think putting your foot in a bear trap would reward you automatically with millions of dollars, a sustaining career, mentally stable wife, and smart children? Is the bear trap suppose to tickle?

...and that you set up these rules in your head, believing 'life is fair'; until you stick your foot in the trap, and takes your foot off. You're bleeding to death, and you're last thought is "wah, wah, wah, life isn't fair."

Then someone else comes along, who knows what a bear trap does, it's purpose, it's existence of being, and the guy being dumber than a sack of hammers......puts his foot in. Darwinism.

He thought the bear trap would tickle and give him money. But life proved otherwise.

>having consensual sex is like sticking your foot in a bear trap

consensual sex, in an age of our civilization when a woman can backtrack that consent months after the act, on a whim?

The "consent" is the bait, son; deliciously displayed on the trap.

Who's the trap? Some college girl who wants free-minded dirty nympho sex in her dorm room? How many articulated points should I bring to awareness here? How about the guy who'll stick his dick into anyone?

....how about the over-the-hill 40+ woman, looking for a husband, and the suitor turned her away? And for her to exercise her self-worth, she accused the suitor of rape, as a last vindictive strike back. A desperate woman doing desperate things, and the worse thing the guy did was look in her direction.

The fact of the matter is, you are combining bad people to weaker people, and still believing "life isn't fair". When life itself breeds these people like hungry lions or unsuspecting sheep.

I don't tell rich people I hate them. I'm bitter, not retarded.

>having consensual sex is like sticking your foot in a bear trap
>your response: "Makes perfect sense."

So consensual sex is supposed to fuck you up and ruin your life?

Do you have brain damage?

Yeah... could be part of it. She was molested as a child by her grandfather who later went to prison for separate child molestation. Her father went to prison for raping her mother when she was about 5. She grew up really poor. Her neighbors would give her mom food because they couldn't afford it.

She dropped out of highschool to date an older guy. He stabbed himself when she broke up with him. One of her male friends raped her.

Now she's a single mom. It's funny. Back when she told me that she was pregnant I was worried that her and the father would struggle. Very shortly after he was murdered. Then suddenly the two of them raising a baby seemed like it would be so easy. Without the father she's pretty much fucked. If I didn't help her out I don't know what she would do.

Re-reading your post, I'm not disagreeing that sexual laws and societal values are bad and getting worse. Consent can be retracted after the fact. I understand and agree that that's how things are now.

Sex IS a trap, I'm just saying it SHOULDN'T be.

Do you see it?

You're totally opposite of the male experience in her life. She doesn't know the normal way to react to it.

She's just waiting for you to piss her off enough so she can say "Ha! Just like every other scummy man I've known".

There's a lot of work & commitment here to make her react the way you expect her to.

You arent middle class you fag, if your family buys you a 20 grand car you are considered a rich fucker around here

They have internet in Africa?

Typical rich kid cant accept he was handed opportunity on a silver platter. Here people who are middle class or below have to work and buy cars themselves. Or you take the fucking bus.

Go away, stop pretending to be all humble and like you are some underdog. You clearly arent.

>So consensual sex is supposed to fuck you up and ruin your life?
>Do you have brain damage?

...and this is what you take away? I think it's you that needs to check in.

I'm saying "consent" is bullshit in this day and age, when a female can rescind it on a whim, minutes/hours/days/weeks/months/years after the deed.

It's hard to defend against the accusation, when we're talking about mostly an age demographic that swaps partners every other moment; and consent is just a buzzword for the jaded.

Men into that kind of sport-fucking tend to fall into the traps set by vindictive women. Each have their own set of inner-rules believing 'life isn't fair" when no one plays by them.

All all the events you see and read in the news, and suddenly we're all surprise by that overwhelming statistic of falsely-accused men? It's a classic case of people not knowing who and where they are, then getting caught in the pitfalls. Just like a gazelle getting snatched by the alligator. Life is fair.

>Sex IS a trap, I'm just saying it SHOULDN'T be.

....like a praying mantis that decapitates their lover's head after sex?

Sure, preach on that sex shouldn't be a trap.....but history, and biology, prove otherwise.....we just don't know any better because we just want to fuck, and damn the consequences.

Lol, I'm upper class and white, but look lower class, and have neutral enough views that no one gives a shit. muscular and attractive, but not enough to get swarmed or harassed. I am what other people look at and say life is unfair.

when I was born my parents decided to get me circumsized. been wanting to die ever since

At 14 when i noticed my penor was smaller than my bfs

i think most people realize that around age 6 or 7.