Where on the political spectrum does this film lie?

Where on the political spectrum does this film lie?

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Well it shows libtards up for their libtarded ways but then a mexican is the hero, so I guess it's shades of grey.

superficial understanding of hot topic so reddit

>mucho crime comes from South America
>our own intelligence agencies don't exactly play by the rules
>but the Cartels are much more brutal (which is incontrovertible)
>the "drug war" causes more harm than good
Where on the spectrum? I'd say it's all over the place, which is accurate.

There's no way they would choose a skinny white childlike woman to kick in doors of drug cartel house

A yes!

BUILDWALL-core

Brolin represented fascism
Blunt was a pawn of big gubment
Benicio represented God and God was on Brolin's side and cucked Blunt in the end

Very redpilled.

Yeah, but she gets constantly BTFO by men and has to be rescued so it's fine.

Apathetic, I'd say.

Extreme right. The entire film is a treatise on how women simply do not belong in some worlds. Specifically the world of violent men. The protagonist is set up as being "muh stronk female lead" and then basically gets abused, near raped (only saved by a man), BTFO'd to the max, and then sent home crying.

This movie is an anti feminist masterpiece thaty fundamentally refutes the concept of the sameness of the sexes.

For further proof on the directors anti feminist view, see Villenueva's first film, Enemy. Women are shown as literal monsters.

The main message is that the Americans are scared shitless that the Mexican cartels might start exporting their methods in the United States.
CIA is already nostalgic about the good old days when they had to deal with Escobar and the Medellin cartel.

my Sup Forums rose when she got manhandled by Brolin near the end

>Mexico
>South America

>The main message is that the Americans are scared shitless that the Mexican cartels might start exporting their methods in the United States.
How is it possible to miss the point so hard?

Yup.

This isn't really a political movie. All the political issues are really just a vague backdrop for the movie's set pieces and thriller elements. Watch Traffic if you want a more political look at the issues

Enemy was not Villeneuve first film. It was his sixth for Christ's sake..

Realpolitik

First English language, you daft cunt.

Villeneuve mostly copied the plot and the settings of The Bridge.
It's not really a movie with deeper meaning, although the action scenes were quite impressive.

Deeper meaning is this:

again wrong because Prisoners came out before Enemy, you daft cunt.

No, not at all. I lived there, and love it more than my American city.

You know enemy was filmed and finished before prisoners even filmed, right? It also premiered at TIFF before Prisoners was screened for the first time at Telluride.

You're still a daft cunt.

>The SECOND collaboration is the surreal psycho-drama Enemy, a Canadian production that Villeneuve and his star shot in Toronto prior to Prisoners.

Alt-right.
>main character is a girl who gets BTFO
>Mexicans get BTFO
>white man prevails

>topical drug cartel movie
>with shady cia agents
>grey morality
>isn't a political movie

Shut up dummy

>Prisoners
August 30, 2013 (Telluride Film Festival)
>Enemy
September 8, 2013 (TIFF)

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Also back to your original comment why does it being his first English language matter at all?

Its not a political movie.

Its an operator/spy film.

This is the key part of the film:

>Medellin refers to a time when one group controlled every aspect of the drug trade, providing a measure of order that we could control. And until somebody finds a way to convince 20% of the population to stop snorting and smoking that shit, order's the best we can hope for. And what you saw up there, was Alejandro working toward returning that order.

Well in enemy the man was a cheat who regarded women as claustrophobic and constructing. Not necessarily anti-women.

see
Enemy filmed FIRST, faggot.

wheretowatch.com/2013/09/jake-gyllenhaal-director-denis-villeneuve-on-prisoners-enemy

Still doesn't explain why you only count his movies once they become English language.

Because I don't speak baguette.

So you can't read?

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holy shit is this video real?

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Absolutely disgusting.

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that's literally the point, they chose her because she was weak and couldn't really interfere

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Why does Alejandro need Kate's signature when he can do whatever he wants illegally

Kek. She needs to go back to sucking my cock.

I think it's more that Brolin needs it for his CIA bosses and he sent Alejandro because he's more of a ruthless fucker willing to murder Kate if she didn't sign.

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How did you guys like the movie? It got great reviews but I can't say it liked that much. I mean it's a competently made flick with some good performances, but the characters aren't developed enough to make me care for them and the plot is too bare-bones to be interesting. In the end I felt that the movie was hollow and just didn't have a compelling story to tell.

she does exactly the same faces Robert De Niro usually does

yeah she's the perfect example of someone who got its job just to fill the diversity quota, people dont care because she's a city cop doing small meaningless in a small town, when she has to face the real world and not a fake hugbox tumblr reality she gets btfo hard

Nailed it

what was the point then shitbird

Didn't they have an MRAP full of Swat teams?

CIA can't operate inside America.

It's open to interpretation though, as some people will see their own opinions reflected if they agree with segments of the content.
A centrist/leftist would see it as a condemnation of the never-ending war on drugs and the increasingly fascist methods employed.
A rightist sees the use of brutal force as an efficient solution.

what does it mean if I see it as both?

Sicario: Step Up 2 The Stakes
Sicario 3
True Sicario
5icario
Sicario: Reborn
Sicarios

>Sicario
>Sicario 2
>Sicario 3: Return of Sicario
>Sicario 4: The Final Sicario
>Sicario 5: The Beginnings
>Sicario 6: Next Generation
>Sicario 7: Death of Sicario
>Sicario (remake)

Why do you faggy Americans have to inject politics into everything?

Can't you enjoy something without bringing up politics, be them left wing or right wing?

To me the point of the movie is that an idealistic and well meaning person is ground down by the ruthless pragmatism and brutality of the world as it is

To me the setting is only a incidental point to harp on more universal themes

that's the way I read it at least

What's essential non-english Villekino? I've only seen Enemy, Prisoners and Sicario. Still haven't gotten around to Incendies.

>enjoying things
You want Hillary to win?

That's accurate, to me at least

But if they make the real world look like hell doesn't it mean it thinks the world is wrong and it's the left who is moral?
Where is the morality of right in this movie?

Chopping off the heads of the south american cartels is WHY they have the pronlems in mexico.

>But if they make the real world look like hell doesn't it mean it thinks the world is wrong and it's the left who is moral?
It's not whether the world is right or wrong. The world is the world. The movie is about accepting that.

It informs his character since he had a connection with her. He said she reminds him of his murdered daughter. Showing him put a gun to her head and forcing her to sign the papers shows what an ice cold fuck he is, and how seriously he takes his revenge.

Isn't it a duty of both left and right wing to make the world a better place

That's really the main point of the film. Sure you could argue the women are weak point because there was a fight to keep the main character female but honestly, it's more about how ruthless the world can be and that idealism isn't something you can always carry.

Sure. The CIA thought they were doing the better thing by controlling the drug supply and violence instead of (in their minds futilely) attempting to stop it entirely.

>not SIC4RIO
Must try harder

>5icario

That you're capable of seeing more than one meaning in a Hollywood movie.

I agree with this. Especially how naive and narrow-minded she is.

>b-but that's... w-wrong!

Sorry hun the world isn't a fairy tale with good and bad

>works with busting drug lords and gang members
>what is medellin?

Holy fucking shit what a retard.

This is a reporter though, not a soldier. Still pretty funny though seeing a grown ass woman crying like a little girl because loud noises are scary.

>works with busting drug lords and gang members

She is kidnap response jackass

>what is medellin?

Something that hasn't been relevant for like 20 years at that point.

doesnt matter its garbage and emily blunt can not fucking act

>be cop
>never heard of pablo escobar

Okay amigo

Fuck off bluntfag

am i missing something here? why are there two people helping her with literally everything before she can even attempt it herself?

but to make the world better you can't be a pussy faggot like the left wants you to be. that's where right comes in.

This would be turbo shitty if she stayed down, but the fact that she keeps getting up gives me feels for some reason

You're understanding politics is childish and retarded, please never breed.

I think shes a reporter or something who was just doing a piece on training and so they were sorta handling her with kid gloves

Well it has all that le cia is toppling governments and running the drug trade themselves so i guess pretty liberal

>>the "drug war" causes more harm than good
The drug war doesn't get blamed for the cartels. The consumers do.

I think it's apolitical

Since when is stating facts being liberal you huge faggot

I agree mostly but not entirely since he had already taken revenge anyway, the paper wasn't necessary.
He was working with Brolin the whole time and Brolin was basically the man who helped me, so he did that thing for him. But I agree that it shows he is ruthless.

I mean her brick shithouse partner is equally perturbed by the goings on so I don't think it was intended as an anti woman screed

If you ask me its important for her character to be a woman because it carries extra weight for the assault/attempted rape scene and adds a layer of complexity to her relationship to Del Toro (and why she would be inclined to not shoot him in the end). If it was male just getting attacked and Del Toro covered his ass I think the "indebtedness" might be less believable

Polytechnique has almost no dialogue. Go ahead and check it out, you nigger.

let me guess

he was only working for the US for his own revenge, not justice, let's not pretend he's a Saint

Neutral.
Leftwingers and rightwingers may both find ideological justifications or condemnations for its production.
Now go fuck off and take the rest of the pseudopolitical armchair activists in this thread with you.

Kindly name three movies you consider good and not "garbage".

Signing the papers was fulfilling his end of the bargain with brolin, and more importantly he liked her and wanted her to understand how srsbsns the thing was.

You are now aware there are many and near entirely different branches of crimefighting/law enforcement.

Are you people joking or are you this myopic?

Sicario isn't about politics, or feminism, or any of that shit. It's literally the opposite, really. It shows that at least in the world of the cartel/drug wars, politics and moralism don't really apply, for both sides. Alejandro's talk with the drug lord at the end is probably the most significant aspect of the movie, because it shows that while all the violence the cartels cause is awful, ultimately its all a business, and Alejandro's wish for revenge was just a tool for the US to use agaisnt the cartel. Ultimately its a war that's void of any real sentiment of meaningfulness or purpose. The cartels are a beast that's sustained by the people that buy their shit, and these people are not going away, which means that it's a war that will go on forever. The true monsters here aren't the CIA or the cartels, they're just the logical outcome of a business. That's why Blunts characters idealism doesn't work, because there's no ideals to any side of the war, its literally all just cold business. You dont fault a wolf for slaughtering its prey, and as Alejandro put it at the end, they were in the land of wolves.