The undocumented migrants and minorities have very little political power and they don't run the economy.
However the corporations and billionaires and kike bankers do have all the wealth and run the economy and buy all the politicans.
The middle class incomes are decreasing while the income for the top 1% is soaring. The Mexicans and the Muslims didn't cause that. It was the 1%
Trump has promised- 1)To cut taxes on corporations , claiming they are too heavily taxed 2) To repeal Dodd-Frank and other financial regulations so Wall Street kikes can lie to and defraud goys without consequences 3) Appoint a pro-corporate Koch brother loving Supreme court justice
Bernie has promised to 1) Raise taxes on corporations and the 1% 2)Use the extra money to rebuild infrastructure and create jobs and expand health care 3)Increase Wall Street regulations and crack down on fraud. Bring back Glass-Steagall to protect your savings from reckless behaviour by the banks 4) Make campaign finance reform and stop billionaires from buying politicians
It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together, because Bernie is a self-described Zionist Jew and would never betray his own kind.
Anthony Price
>The undocumented migrants and minorities have very little political power
Oliver Gonzalez
This argument is far too intelligent for the average Sup Forumstard - they all think Trump is going to make THEM money. The rich don't share.
Lincoln Perez
When the left says the 1% they mean rich conservatives. Fuck off.
Carter Cook
>people in the top 5% globally bitching about the 1%
Parker Jones
Bernie isn't a Zionist . he says he thinks Netanyahu is wrong and actually wants a Palestinian state.
Anthony Turner
Hi Milo, you're awesome.
Carson Edwards
The rich aren't the enemy. We just want to get them to pay their taxes and regulate the banks and corporations so they stop defrauding and exploiting people.
Eli Myers
what can you do to take on the 1%? Trump has promised to be anti globalist but for all his rhetoric it seems pretty obvious that he'll be the exact same unless pushed hard, which is about the same for any of the candidates, you'll have to push them hard the whole time
Hudson Myers
*and stop them from buying politicans
Camden Rivera
He's self-hating which is even worse. Just look at Obama to see what happens under a president with no national pride.
Josiah Reed
Even Bernie used to talk about it before he became a Democrat.
Adam Smith
>TYT Is this a bait thread? You link the most intellectually dishonest youtube show of all time and expect to be taken seriously? I dont know even have to watch the video, I know it will be nothing but strawman arguments and conflating the 1% (which includes anyone making over 250k) with the "rich". Taxing that bracket more just hurts small business (which generates a majority of US jobs)and does nothing in terms of getting these multinational corporations to pay up. The offshore banling loopholes need to be fixed, that is literally the only problem. Which is what Trump says he intends to do.
Benjamin Peterson
Bernie has actually promised to take on the 1% and bring jobs back to America and end free trade.
He's the only one who actually believes it.
Asher Turner
The 1% can't be taken on, the migrants can. Beyond that, the 1% act for their own interests first and foremost, while the migrants act for the complete destruction of western society
Nathaniel Stewart
And yet it won't be them carrying the burden of your socialist utopia. It will be hard working upper-middle class white folk with six figure incomes but not the resorces to properly dodge taxes.
John Smith
Pretty much this. OP is complaining that his silverware isn't gold. The kings of long ago couldn't fathom the luxurious lifestyles the average men of today are living. Air conditioning is an enormous blessing. Internet access pretty much anywhere you go is nothing short of a technological miracle. Modern medicine has significantly extended all of our lifespans, but for some reason people feel the need to complain because someone always has it better. If you want to be rich, go learn something that produces enormous value to society. Otherwise stfu and enjoy flipping your burgers then going home to a nice air conditioned and furnished apartment filled with non perishable foods and binge watch Netflix from the comfort of your toilet cause you're just so god damn full of shit you need to be on the toilet all day.
Pro tip: 1 in every 100 people you know are part of the 1%. Gasp :o
Nathaniel Powell
Old pol would agree but here's been too many newfags with no reasonsbly sense that just flow with the memes
Nicholas Thomas
It is going to make me money simply by virtue of lower taxes on myself and increased job opportunities because small businesses grow faster under lower taxes. I dont want to be GIVEN anything from the rich, I want to be able to work.
Jason Lopez
The problem is that what he proposed won't hurt the "1%". It'll crush the working middle class.
Isaac Bailey
Bernie's taxes will focus on corporations and millionaires and billionaires and Wall Street and not small business. Look at his tax plan.
Camden Nelson
Shut up, you don't accomplish anything worthwhile when you break the legs of your wealth creators. We have thid thread every day.
Colton Hernandez
Old "pol" (gotta be kiddin me m8) was never socialist. There is an inherent need for corporation, we just have to make sure they actually pay their taxes and cant become monopolies. The best way to do that is with the smallest government possible, the more powerful the State is, the more favor can be bought by tbose with enough money. You can't change human nature, so the best system is one which limits the ability of a system to be abused.
Nicholas Williams
I don't want something from 40 years ago nigger, I want a source of this. I doubt that with ISIS on the border with Mexico he would be inclined to even consider that maybe let in a few kids from Central America and shit but you're claiming is no borders
Jack Thompson
The 1% (more like the 0.00001%) use the Mexicans and Muslims to destroy the middle class by driving wages down because Mexicans will work for pennies, and any Muslims who work create a larger supply of workers.
They also use the crime the Mexicans and Muslims commit to scare the people into accepting greater government surveillance and control while losing their freedom.
They also use the high fertility rates of Mexicans and Muslims to outbreed whites, effectively destroying white countries which are the last resistance to a one world government where everyone is a slave except the 0.00001% who are our masters.
This is the future you choose when you accept the Mexican and Muslim invasions. You're playing right into the globalist elites' plan when you do so. Trump will also bring back jobs for Americans by bringing corporations back to America, and making it less attractive for them to stay overseas.
Kevin Hall
His tax plan hurts everybody.
Hudson Price
Liberals think rich people are sitting on their hordes of gold not doing anything with it, like they're not actually investing and driving innovation with it. The real disparity between rich and poor is not all that big. We all have cars and use the same computers and the same really advanced phones because those super rich people funded their development. We also eat the same food, if you look through history this was not the case. The super rich got their delicate meats while the poor ate grain soup for dinner.
The modern disparity is superficial because our quality of life is very similar.
Grayson Thompson
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Lincoln Ross
Let's say the 1% disappeared. Now what?
Jace Evans
I did look at his tax plan, I actually did the math, did you? These giant corporations that dont pay taxes youre referring to are more like the .001%, and even if they paid 100%, it would not be enough ti fund free college. All tax brackets would inevitably taxed harder, and furthermore, even if you taxed the entire country at 100% you couldn't pay for Bernie's plan. One realizes his plans are utopian nonsense if they do the math.
Bentley Taylor
Bernie has been a Democrat for barely a year you moron.
They would rather everyone be equal and poorer than unequal and richer. They have been indoctrinated to belief wealth disparity is inherently a bad thing, when the opposite is literal Communism.
Elijah Lopez
lmao raise taxes on everybody including the rich when they are the ones that ALWAYS find or create loop holes, there is no stopping them taxes are THEIR weapon. Lowering taxes on everybody is the only way for real economic freedom.
Hunter Long
Commies should have one way ticket to happy socialist land like Venezuela or Brazil.
>But Sanders, going where few politicians dare, would also raise taxes on middle- and low-income families, with those in the dead center of the income spectrum facing a $4,700 tax increase. That would reduce their after-tax incomes by 8.5 percent, the report said.
Ryder Adams
>We just want to get them to pay their taxes .
How?
Wouldn't they commit significant resources to figuring out how to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, like they've always done? Isn't that in their nature?
>and regulate the banks and corporations so they stop defrauding and exploiting people
What's to stop them from developing new ways to exploit people and getting around any regulations?
Elijah Ramirez
Not weird at all. Bernie is simply naive and idealistic in this respect, while the top 0.1 % wants to open the borders in order to ruin the middle class even further. This is about increasing financial control of the masses and limiting personal freedom in order to increase financial and psychological dependence on big government and big corporations. That's all there is to it. Everything else is emotional manipulation and media lies to distract you from the simple financial strategy at work by the ptb.
Oliver Campbell
No it would be easy to fund. 80% of the free college would be funded by his taxes on wall street (He wants states to put up the remaining 20%).
Asher Sullivan
If there are high taxes on everyone else (like small business competitors entering the market) that they don't have to pay, it gives them a huge advantage and creates monopolies, I think you nailed it. Same with with overregulation, the huge companies can afford it, upstart competitors cannot. High taxes and overregulation put a strangehold on innovation and encourage monopolies to form.
Ayden Richardson
Have you looked at his tax plan? It fucks EVERYONE.
Jace Reyes
Taxing corporations only makes products more expensive and makes competition from outside stronger. Tax people, end of story.
> Increase Wall Street regulations and crack down on fraud Surely will work, he will totally get all the bankers and bad people, just like 8 years ago.
> Make campaign finance reform and stop billionaires from buying politicians Hey, let's just forbid contributions, PACs and maybe bribing, now only billionaires can successfully run for president by self funding their campaign.
> Use the extra money to rebuild infrastructure and create jobs and expand health care The everyday create jobs that supply no demand thing. It's just redistribution of wealth while keeping idiots busy cleaning streets so they don't think about rioting.
Daniel Hall
I thought Bernie was cool till he got bullied by she boons. He is clearly a weak faggot.
Cooper Harris
No I don't think you get what I'm saying, there isn't enough money IN TOTAL that exists in the entire 1% to fund free college, even if Bernie took all of it. Even if they did have enough, if it all got taken, where does the money come from next year? Those businesses would cease to exist.
Jose Cooper
Okay, now do the math.
Julian Bell
No not kidding. I'm talking about all this talking points just because the old fart has stated that coaligned with years of pol 1) Raise taxes on corporations and the 1% 2)Use the extra money to rebuild infrastructure and create jobs and expand health care 3)Increase Wall Street regulations and crack down on fraud. Bring back Glass-Steagall to protect your savings from reckless behaviour by the banks 4) Make campaign finance reform and stop billionaires from buying politicians But because of different social issues and a wrong foot with somebody's meme here in the beggining, he's been disqualified. That's as close as pol/ has ever comes close to the candidate with talking points they've been wanting besides Trump (whom apparently now seeks counsel from Kissinger himself)
Anthony Jones
Here you go rescue diver
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Hunter Brown
"For all his rhetoric in 2007, Sanders didn’t oppose a pathway to citizenship or efforts to boost border security." Thank you my point proven
Elijah Lee
>People don't get economics The 1% gives loans out to businesses so that they can pay their workers biweekly and not quarterly
Giving the 1% breaks is literally what saved us from the Housing Crisis in 2008 Also, the REAL jews are the offshore investors, that's what almost happened in 2008 before fucking Bush stopped it
Elijah Kelly
> bring jobs back to America > Raise minimum wage and regulations. I wonder why all jobs are going to Mexico and China.
Small business gets killed by him, but okay.
Samuel Sanchez
>#
Kevin Watson
Yeah I wish people could see just how good they have it under capitalism. I'm fairly poor but one thing that is amazing to me is that I can own an air conditioner and run it whenever I want. Back in the 80's those things ran for 600-700 dollars and they were incredibly inefficient. Back then if I would have ran an air conditioner like I do now it would have doubled my electric bill. I'm able to have that air conditioner because back in the 80's the super rich were buying them for their houses which funded the companies research and development and allowed them to lower cost of ownership.
It's like that with everything and you just don't see it happen in socialist countries. The more socialist a country is the less innovative they are because they don't have that rich class to fund tomorrows gadgets.
Jackson Garcia
I agree with everything except the raise taxes part, our corporate tax rate is one of the highest in the world, which is part of why these companies use schemes like the double irish thing in the first place. Compaanies like Facebook should not be able to get away with paying $0 on billions in annual revenue. It will help a lot just having a President that cant be bought, I'm 100% certain Obama directs the IRS not to after certain companies, FB being one of those.
Andrew Cox
Here are some corrections:
*Trump has promised to cut taxes on corporations while closing loopholes so that corporations stop evading taxes and the economy receives a boost. *Bernie has promised to raise taxes on EVERYONE, including the poorest who already have tiny disposable incomes. *There is no "extra money" to be received from his dumbass investing tax, corporations will continue to move overseas to get away from Bernie and that old bitch does not have the power to stop them.
Wyatt Morales
>undocumented migrants >have very little political power
Because they're here ILLEGALLY. What part of that do you not understand?
Anthony Morales
Not enough coffee today
Dominic Diaz
you now realise the 1% can simply move to canada or other countries with their money. Honestly I'd rather the US elect Trump because he's less degenerate but if they do elect Bernie somehow then the rich that move away with their dosh could mean either Canada or another country get jobs and shit.
Benjamin Robinson
>Wish people could see how good they have it Welp, this is what happens when marxists infiltrate the education system. People get locked into the proletariat/bourgeuise dynamic and its hard to break the entitlement and vict complex.
Oliver Edwards
>corporations will continue to move overseas to get away from Bernie and that old bitch does not have the power to stop them.
People all over the world keep insisting there's nothing that can be done about this, yet every country could simply make it illegal for a corporation to move. They only do that because you let them. They have no power other than the power you allow them to have.
Logan Bailey
Not if Bernie forces them to stay. See, this is what scares me about Bernie, for any of his plans to be enacted, and for people to go along with it, it necessitates authoritatianism by definition. At least Lenin and his contemporaries were honest about the need for coercion and the initiation of violence to achieve their goals.
Colton Walker
>Canada takes all the 1% Jews and evil corporations >USA free of kikes and evil thus we are stronger less divided >we can finally bomb Canada out of existence >feelsgood.jpg
Kevin Torres
>That's as close as pol/ has ever comes close to the candidate with talking points they've been wanting besides Trump
Are those Sander's talking points? I thought I was reading Trump's talking points.
>yfw Kissinger is Nestor.
Julian Hernandez
>yet every country could simply make it illegal for a corporation to move
Hooray facism!
Jayden Jones
>Simply make it illegal to move That is a very slippery slope into east germany, which is ehy I think the threat of tariff combined with a more agreeable tax rate is the best way to keep industry here. Authoritarianism of the nature you described does nothing to address the core problem of currency manipulation either, that us what entices companies to set up shop in China and Mexico, among other unfair practices. Trump, as a master negotiator, has a lot better chance of addressing these root causes than Bernie.
Luke Diaz
I'm a member of the 1% for my age group. I came to the US legally and worked my ass.off for the last 12 years. I hate illegal immigrants and I'm voting for Trump. I'm not even that rich compared to other people I associate with. A cop and a teacher in Long Island can easily be in the 1% in their 30s. It's not that hard but that doesn't make them rich. I think you're taking about the 0.1%
Daniel Gomez
>Raise taxes on corporations and the 1% He also want's to raise taxes for everyone else. No thanks. Fucking socialists.
>1% of people shouldn't get special privileges! >unless we are talking about lgbt or kikes, then it's okay to inconvenience the 99% to give them special privileges
Luis Rogers
Like I said who gives a fuck if they move. Let them move, have their assets be here in the USA but if they want to move and take American resources and the everything in our infrastructure that has made America great somewhere else, they don't deserve to be even called American. I swear pol/ is fucking lost!!!
Lucas Jackson
>Spewing marxist rhetoric on Sup Forums >>>/facebook/
Luke Parker
1) Minorities and illegals do have political power. They're basically guaranteed to vote Democrat - or for any party with welfare state policies. They also have the power to displace the native population, breed rapidly, drain resources of the host nation through crime and welfare abuse. All of these things are what globalists want in order to create populations fully dependent on government power.
2) Trump is the candidate that's most hated by the world's elite (with Bernie a far second) for a reason. His policies are directly against globalist ideals and has no donators to cater to
Carson Gutierrez
Maybe the US should stop trying to police the world and then you wouldmt need such a high tax rate.
Landon Sanchez
>Facebook still relevant Shouldn't you be in high school lad. Adults are talking here
Ethan Green
This shift will happen within the next few decades. Won't be pretty tbhfam
Liam Russell
This. So why pol isn't getting it. That's beyond me
Dominic Peterson
>taking on the 1% Believe me, I'm all for taking on Bernie Sanders
Bernie estimates that the cost of free college 75 billion . He says that 2/3 of that money will be federal funds and 1/3 is state funds. They could easily fund the federal 2/3 with Wall Steet tax.
John Morris
they should have zero political power.
You don't live here so you don't know what negative impacts they bring.
Do you know what corporatism is, moron? The "1%" has so much power due to the death of small businessess (because of regulations)
Samuel Butler
>Why doesn't Sup Forums understand the importance of taking on the 1%? It's the sad legacy of serfdom.
Gentile europeans spent centuries under severe political and economic repression. They have a deeply ingrained avoidance of blaming those with actual power, and instead were taught to target "approved" scapegoats.
Noah Phillips
The other day I was saying how I must be part of the 1% because I'm a single guy with no kids making $135K and I have no debts other than my home mortgage. Nope! Turns out I'd have to make $350K to be in the 1%. Do you realize how fucking rich these people are? I mean I have two cars and a five bedroom house on five acres with a pond. I take vacations wherever I want and eat whatever food I want. I am rich by working people standards.
But this 1%, they are fucking RICH rich. Meanwhile everyone else is working their ass off just to have basics. It makes no sense.
And I know these people. They're the VP's at my company. I can promise you, they *do not* work that hard and most of them aren't that brilliant.
The situation is fucked and if you don't even acknowledge how fucked it is you are completely out of your fucking mind.
Gabriel Edwards
Did it also mention that trading will be cut in half, that the US stock market is not the only stock market and that his model nations like Sweden have already tried a robin hood tax that was a failure?
Liam Clark
>Bernie estimates that the cost of free college 75 billion
That's a bullshit number. That covers the cost of freshman entrance tuition in public colleges for a year.
Ayden Cruz
>Sup Forumsack doesn't get economics
The 1% makes most of their money from derivates and speculation , not loans.
Giving them breaks and letting the banks get too big to fail was literally what excarbated the crash .
Austin Turner
The current wealthy inequality levels arent a problem. The rich may be getting richer when compared to everyone else, but they are also increasing the size of the pie. You should be more worried about capitalists replacing workers with robots. Thats goijg to fuck up everything. Most would rather be a wageslave than a jobless hobo. America is messed up in that your countries finances are too overstetched to the point where its impossible to have a living wage if there was mass unemployment event caused by automation. Your debts are manageable, but still too high, America will either have to stop being the police of the world and demilitarise or youre going to see alot of Hungry people on the streets. Its going to be hard to fund that living wage if you continue spending half a trillion on an overbloated military force
Tyler Perry
>everyone else is working their ass off just to have basics
Not true.
Connor Morris
>they are also increasing the size of the pie The whole point of Piketty's book is that their slice is growing faster than the pie itself. Over time, they will own everything.
Also you usually raise taxes to bring down the debt.
Mason Scott
>simply make it illegal to move
Because making things illegal prevents people from doing them.
Adam Parker
You keep saying that Straya, but it's our massive defense spending which keeps trade routes open.
Zachary Sullivan
Yes. The rich are the devil. Not the corrupt political system that allows corporations to enslave modern day humans in all but name.
Ethan Brooks
Sowell showed pretty effectively that income mobility is a real thing in this country. Over half of our population makes it into the top 10% at some point in their lives, and the 1% usually only stay there for about a decade. We're a very rags to riches to rags society. Income inequality numbers don't represent our societal reality.
