Who would win in a fight

Who would win in a fight.
Episode 4 Luke or Episode 7 Rey?

episode 4 Rey.

How much prep time does Rey get?

Who's directing/producing it?

Obviously Rey. Luke doesn't know kung fu. Rey knows kung fu. She's proficient in a staff and sword. We all remember how clumsy Luke was.

Why was his hand still so archaically mechanical? Does technology not progress in the Star Wars Universe? Couldn't they at least put a glove on that shit?

Why did this franchise have to continue?

Rey has no place in star wars, she would beat aotc anakin.

>lightsaber fight
Rey

>gun fight
Luke

>space fight
Luke

>stick fight
Rey

They were trying to be clever but it just came off as stupid.

Rey easily. Before the credits of 7 roll, she's already mastered the jedi mind trick, which is a good one.

She also is able to manipulate objects using force pull.

Does Luke have a torpedo small enough to fit in her exhaust port?

He hasn't had the hand fixed up in years and has been living as a hermit so he doesn't really care about what his robot hand looks like.

JJ Abrams said he deliberately chose a mechanical looking hand so he'll never forget

Rey is a better pilot did you see her piloting the Falcon?

>crashing around
>barely manages to beat some ties
>meanwhile luke one-shot no-scoped a death star
>better pilot
NOPE.

More importantly, would Rey beat Vader in a lightsaber fight?

Vader would destroy her.

>Oh, hey Luke. This planet seems kind of depressing. I mean, do you even have a house or anything?
>No, I sleep by that rock, there's a slight overhang, it keeps me dry enough.
>I see. So like, is the training going to take place here or?
>Training? Who the fuck are you even? Is Han on the Falcon? Why the fuck isn't he coming down first to tell me who you are?

Episode 4 Rey beats every single Star Wars entity in either EU or the current canon. She is the absolute most perfect character who can outfly, outfight, outsmart, outmaneuver anybody, regardless of their skill. She's a strong woman who don't need no master, if anything she'll teach Luke about the Force and not the other way around.

Fuck what JJ thinks, he ruined star wars.

But Rey has the power of the Force™.

JJ is a fucking hack. He's yet again ripping off a videogame except in the videogame had a good reason for the character to keep his war wounds: revenge. Luke just lost a limb sword fighting his dad. There's no good reason he'd think "NEVER FORGET!"

Does his hand ever run out of batteries

>JJ Abrams said he deliberately chose a mechanical looking hand so he'll never forget
Never forget what?

His glove was damaged beyond repair within the first couple of months on the planet. He can't make a new one because the planet is just grass, rocks, and water. He is literally a hermt that sleeps in caves.

So did Kenobi.

No. His hand is powered by poor plot devices. So he'll never run out of juice.

Did Han Solo drop him off with no Xwing? Sounds like you know more than we do from watching the movie.

The robot hand reminds him of Vader and what he could become.

This isn't even something JJ invented. It's in Return of the Jedi: when Luke beats Vader, he takes a moment to think, looks at his robot hand, and realizes he's falling to the dark side and becoming Vader. It's a great scene.

X-wing or no. He hasn't left the planet since he landed. He's off the grid

Luke only pulled off the shot because the entire squadron basically acted as bait for him. Rey is a far better pilot

>far better pilot
>crashes around and barely takes care of a couple ties with the help of finn
No.

God dammit I can totally see Luke having a Neo in the Matrix "Woah!" moment after Rey does some crazy force shit he's never seen before

>This isn't even something JJ invented. It's in Return of the Jedi
And since that time, Luke has had absolutely ZERO character development. Bravo Abrams.

He should have just stuck the the Star Trek reboot.

Zero character development? Turning into a fucking ridiculous hermit cuck worse than Yoda counts as development does it not?

9/11

He went from young Jedi Knight to Old Jedi Master Hermit Recluse Who Has Seen Some Shit.

I mean, we haven't seen much of him, but just the few seconds we got of him staring is enough to see that he's a much different man than when we last saw him.

It seems you're just looking for things to hate on Abrams. First it was something Abrams didn't even come up with (and is legit good) and now it's something that isn't even true.

>Luke has had absolutely ZERO character development
To be fair, focusing on Luke would have been a bad idea considering the actor. They had to do as much as possible to create new characters for the passing of the torch. Harrison Ford is at least a good actor and appeals to the masses.

Rey has a plot armor so thick she would defeat Palpatine at his prime.

Episode 4 Luke
>whines
>does nothing
>still learning the ways of the Force
>good at piloting and shooting
>still has to be helped a lot
>uses the Force ONCE, aided by Obi-Wan, to feel the right moment to hit the target

Episode 7 Rey
>shouts a lot
>universe bends around her to make everyone adore her
>having to fend for herself since the age of 4
>adept stick fighter
>don't need no help
>rescues everyone else
>rescues herself
>possesses Force powers Luke didn't get the hang of until the next 2 movies

farmboy gon die.

Take away Luke's guns and X-Wing, and he loses. Otherwise, he wins.

In the EU, it did. He even used the batteries in it to short-circuit a lock in a cell he was being kept in.

In Disney Wars, they obviously run in perpetuity, because his hand still works after 20 years in exile.

She scrapes along the ground a bit but has to pilot a ship made for 2 people. And pulls off stuff like maneuvering through the engine of a Star Destroyer and that turn with the engine stalling.
She is definitely the better pilot.

>To be fair, focusing on Luke would have been a bad idea considering the actor.
Kill yourself user, the only reason he wasn't in the movie more was they knew Luke would over shadow all their shitty new characters.

>crashes around
>better pilot

>Implying Rey wouldn't just pluck him out of the air

>He went from young Jedi Knight to Old Jedi Master Hermit Recluse Who Has Seen Some Shit.
That's not development.

Yeah focusing on Luke would've been so silly, especially since that would've resulted in a fleshed out Ben Solo straight out the gate! It's so much better that they fucking rebooted Star Wars and essentially pretended Luke is a zilch!

Of course. The Falcon is made to be piloted by 2 people at the same time. Some of the controls are seemingly exclusive to one side of the cockpit. For example, only the co-pilot has the switch to turn the deflector shields on.

I fucking despise what Disney is doing to the legacy of the OT but my pleb father wants to see them all in IMAX. I don't have the heart to say no since he refuses to go alone and he's old.

you also forgot that was her first time piloting anything.

Here's a breakdown of Rey's piloting skills
>rey tries to take off
>slams back to the ground
>then hits shits
>then flips the shit and scrapes the side on the ground
>then hits a building
>then hits more shit (and almost some people)
>finally shakily gets in the air
>flips around
>nearly slams into two ties
>causes bb-8 to go flying around the cockpit
>gets hit by lasers from the ties
>hit again by lasers, nearly hits a dune
>turns, scraping the ground AGAIN
>hits the star destroyer she's going into
>gets hit by another laser, causing the falcon to smoke
>grazes the ground again
>gets lasered again, losing a canon
>told to lose him
>hits the ground again turning the ship
>flies into an explosion, taking damage
>tries something crazy
>it works barely thanks to finn

All in all, they beat two TIE fighters (which is nothing at all) only barely because the Falcon is a fucking brickhouse and is able to stay together despite Rey crashing around.

Wrong. She actually has experience flying shit in virtual reality shit she scavenged from a crashed ship. I shit you not it's in some shitty prequel novel.

I don't know what you're talking about, that's pretty damn impressive for someone piloting a ship for the first time, not to mention that the ship was in a junkyard anyway, not in the best of conditions

Any other man with her background info of only flying ships in simulations or whatever the excuse was would've crashed and burned within the minute if they were even able to get it to lift off, and let's not forget that TIE fighters are still trained pilots

And yet, she gave two pilots skilled in flying their ships since birth a lot of resistance.
TIEs shouldn't be "nothing at all" if three of them managed to clear house on Luke's whole squadron.
They've become so nerfed.
Now it's 12 Resistance X-Wings against myriads of FO TIEs and 6 X-Wings come out on top.

See, a lot of the stuff that made the prequels shitty because it wasn't explained also only was in books. That doesn't make TFA any better.

spend time with your dad and enjoy it you fuck

Luke had entire squadron and half-year in training program, Rey didn't. So it's Rey you dump twat.

You're making excuses. Her flying is clumsy, and it's the only example we have of her flying. There's no reason to believe she's way better.

Also TIE fighters aren't all that well trained. TIES are cheaply produced pieces of crap and their pilots typically are rushed through pilot school. The idea is that, with TIEs, you win with numbers, not with superior ships or pilots.

Two TIEs isn't supposed to be a threat to something like the Millennium Falcon, but it is because Rey isn't that great of a pilot and Finn isn't that great of a shot.

Rey is basically steering a car from the wrong seat, can't reach the gear shaft and still outmaneuvers two guys who've been doing this since they got their licence.

OY VEY

>it's the only example we have of her flying

She managed to get to Luke's Planet Ireland with no trouble. She was able to replace Chewie when they went to Maz and knew her away around the ship better than the original pilot did. Now Chewie is copiloting again and ne'er a scrape was seen since then.
She has to have both Han's and Chewie's piloting talent combined to do that.

>someone with no training vs someone with half-training
>the person with no training wins
hey it's like the Kylo argument again

She's in the pilot's seat.

She also doesn't outmaneuver them for the most part. For the most part, they hit her a ton (and she hits other things a ton) as demonstrated. The difference is, the Falcon is a superior ship to TIEs. If anything, if she were skilled, the fight shouldn't have been that close.

She may be in the pilot's seat but she can't easily get to the controls exclusive to the copilot's.

Falcon vs two TIEs is like a tank vs two bicycles.

And she still manages to nearly lose against the bicycles.

Which comes into play a whole once and doesn't result into anything when it comes up.

Ultimately, all you can do is make excuses for her shitty piloting.

>souped up freighter against two warplanes

Her exceptional piloting given she filled in for two and had never taken off before, you mean.

Look at how many times the Falcon takes hits.

But the TIEs always explode in one fucking hit every single time. I think the only TIE to ever survive a hit was Vader's, and it was a special TIE, and even he was sent fucking flying.

>exceptional piloting
>clumsily crashes into shit and gets hit a thousand times

It's a Mighty Glacier against two Glass Cannons.

I dunno how OT cucks are still trying, Rey is basically the most powerful protagonist since Anakin..

Vader only survives because he spins (because it's a good trick).

>exceptional piloting under the condition that the cockpit was fucking understaffed with an amateur.

>Yoda and Obi Wan become hermits after Luke slaughters younglings
>Luke becomes an hermit after Kylo kills his students

pottery

>exceptional piloting
>gets hit 14 times
>only wins because she's against two opponents that die in one hit

meant Anakin of course

>exceptional piloting
>crashes the ship no less than three times just trying to take off

It's five times.

She hits shit five times just trying to take off.

She was a good friend. Err, I mean pilot.

>only wins because she's against two opponents that die in one hit
And it's a close fight.

And she has help.

And her piloting nearly botches it when she lets the canon get hit with her weak piloting.

You cant beat a mary sue. Rey wins.

Rey has so much plot armor and mary sueness that she could fight and win against Yoda and Palpatine at the same time.

Fucking kek. But no.

>Fucking kek. But no.
Yes you fuking dump twat, YES.

Rey would just use her mary sue powers to absolutely destroy Luke.

Rey can defeat Powerman

Go with your dad you autist.

Episode 3 Obi > all

the phantom pain

;_;

>considering the actor
You get your filthy hands off my waifu!!