Lets say there was serum that prevented a person from aging passed the age of 12. lets also say that this person is now 30 years old but looks EXACTLY like a 12 year old. no physical or mental deformations or anything. she has not changed in appearance passed 12.
now lets also say this person, who is now 30 years old, also has the exact mental personality and mental maturity that comes with experience and age. she also has every single trait you love in a woman and she has a crush on you. would you date/wife/sex this person? would you still be considered a pedophile if you do? explain your reasoning.
technically she is an adult, just with the body of a 12y/o
Dylan Lewis
yes. Because what makes you a pedophile is the fact that you are sexually attracted by a pre-pubescend Body and not by an adult body. The Age may be just a number, Puberty and Sexuality (and the fact that a body is theoratically able to concieve a child) is important. Which is not the case so you're still a Pedofaggot.
Jacob Jones
You by definition still be a pedophile because you are attracted to a kid.... But it could perhaps be legal idk...
Noah Myers
but that proves that nothing is wrong with being a pedo since her age and mentality would be that of a 30 year old adult. in that scenario/world it would be the exact same as the stigma surrounding gay relationships and marriages. not really approved by most people, but still forced to accept it.
Nathan Gray
bump
Oliver Clark
She isnt a kid tho. just hasnt aged.
Kevin Parker
no because Pedophile is not an issue of cultural rules or not...
being attractadet to pre-pubescend Bodys is pedophile. And it's unnatural, since Sex is meant for procreation. but you can't procreate with an pre-pubescend Body. It's not possible. It's the definiton of pre-prubescend. So you shouldn't be sexually attracted by it on the first place.
that's it. Why being sexually attracted to something, that isn't meant to be? You also could fuck a Tree. (i'm well aware that there are ppl like that)
Landon Hill
You literally can. the youngest age to have a child was the age of 5.
but the main point is that you can make that same EXACT argument for gay relationships... you literally cant procreate with the same sex and you sure as hell shouldnt be attracted to the same sex. there fore, like i said earlier, the stigma would be the same, but just like with gay marriage/dating society would be forced to accept it.
Jonathan Torres
This is kinda the same argument with anime in the case there's a character who looks 12 but is like 1000 years old or some shit and is a god or something.
No matter is a 12 year old is an all mighty god and has the mentality of one too, you're still a pedo for being sexually attracted to a body of a child.
Gabriel Jones
but you keep saying that as if it would be a bad thing. as if you are afraid of what soceity would think of you. just like with gay relationships.
Justin Torres
If it fits, it schliks
Camden Wright
You faggots havent answered OPs main question yet. would you fuck/date/wife her?
Oliver Richardson
Totes.
Joseph Bennett
nope
Xavier Collins
Look at this pedo, trying to come up with a story in his head so he isn't ashamed jerking it to kids. Ain't that great? Fucko.
Ian Wright
yes
Christian Watson
who said pedos are ashamed?
Jason Gray
.....because it is a bad thing. There's a reason pedophilia is outlawed.
Juan Gutierrez
The reason pedophilism is bad is because people feel like you should get 18 years of time to get used to the world and your own mind until your decisions have any importance, it's literally just to protect you from making decisions that you'll regret later in life, that's why underage people are not allowed to decide such important things like who they want to have sex with, this for example could lead to pregnancy one way or another and affects physical and mental life too much to be taken lightly. This means that it should be perfectly fine to fuck a thirty year old with a younger body, you might still be considered a pedo, but there'd be nothing wrong with that alone anymore, as after 30 years a persons character is so fully developed that you can trust them to make decisions true to their intent.
Connor Gonzalez
yeah 100,000%
Nathan Wilson
No you Can not! you don't understand. I'm not talking about an Age-Number. I'm talking about Puberty. IF puberty strikes you at 5 ... so be it. Being an Variance from Normality appears now and then.
that's why i said Pre-Pubescend. That means, your Body doesn't produce Sperm / Eggs yet, so you are not able to impregnate said Body. This is Biology you are arguing against
>same EXACT argument for gay relationships true but at least, Gay People are Grown Ups and can agree to it, making it consensual. Kids can't.
no i wouldn't because i'm not a Pedo
Caleb Lee
Yes, and that reason is that a mind is only fully developed after 30 years, it has nothing to do with your fucking body. And even if it did, the girls body will never again age, so since their body won't mature any further there is no reason to withhold the right to consent.
Kevin Martin
Gay marriage was also outlawed. it no longer is.
also, she is 30 years old. if you prevent this 30 year old from the basic right to have sex with whoever you want just because she looks 12 would that not be discrimination and go DIRECTLY against the constitution of the USA?
Ethan Morales
^^^^^^^ says my thoughts exactly
Cameron Nelson
>This is Biology you are arguing against I agree with all your points 100% user, but we always have to remember practising critical thinking, and even if that triggers you it also means that the different fields of science have weak points and discussion hinges and aren't intouchable, ultimate knowledge bunkers.
Christopher Gonzalez
okay i ... let's say OPs Scenario would be True. >Pre-Pubescend Body >Adult Mind -> with Consent in this case, i would say it's like being Gay. It's ... "unnatural" (=meaning, it doesn't fit in naturers Plan to procreate)... but since nobody is harmed, i don't care about it. I mean, if two dudes wan't to fuck each other it's none of my business
Angel Adams
Should be.
Isaiah Moore
>true but at least, Gay People are Grown Ups and can agree to it, making it consensual. Kids can't.
SHE ISNT A KID! she is 30 year old! why do you keep ignoring that? she has already hit puberty.
Jordan Wilson
This whole thing is like "Are traps gay?" Because really there's reasons on both sides. There kinda isn't an answer. It's a pedo paradox, and pedoadox if you will.
Gabriel Thomas
look at my Post here i'm appreaciating the fact, she could in said Szenario.
Elijah Green
>would that not be discrimination and go DIRECTLY against the constitution of the USA? I think you should watch more news
Levi Ramirez
I agree user. How about "that's literally the case with everything". There's always reasons on both sides of any question and argument, go on, try it, especially down here you'll be unable to get a 100% agreement from anyone.
Luke Thomas
Then you would also have to agree that nothing is inherently wrong with being a pedo right? because its not the aged they are attracted to, its the body type. the age is just an unfortunate consequence of nature.
Landon Cruz
what does fake news have to do with whats written in the constitution by boi?
Connor Rodriguez
Im not sure what this comment is suppose to mean, but ill use another example.
if she is 30 years old are you going to prevent her from voting because she looks 12?
Nathan Cox
in said szenario, there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.
but in reality, you will always fuck a child, which is neither, mentally nor physically, meant to have Sex. This is abuse and rape, and i might be old fashioned but for me, this is a crime and it is correct, that it's not the same like being Gay (where both can agree into the Relationship).
so in RL, i think it's not exactly the same and i appreciate it, that pedos being sentenced hard.
Tyler Watson
Nope, even in reality there are rare diseases that prevent you from actually aging or make you look prepubescent, think Andy Milonakis. he is probably the best example of this scenario happening in reality. even now he still has problems with people thinking he is a 15 year old, and the guy is 41. also some midgets also look prepubescent. the problem is just that its rare.
Ryder Jones
if you have said desease, i consider it like in said szenario, alright. Because the Mental state is not a child's one. but having said condition like Andy Milonakis is pretty rare and fucking him (wiht his consent) would be alright, since he can prove his age, also, no Judge in the (civilized) World would sentence you for doing him.
Juan Cruz
The problem is, even tho those situations happen in reality like i pointed out. you still consider pedo as a bad thing when its not.
we have established that pedo refers to physical attraction and NOT age. sure some people take it too far and do illegal stuff, but the majority actually avoid that.
to summarize, being a pedo is not bad. having sex with underage minors however is bad.
Carson Baker
My boi, recently a lot of government choicemakers in the US have been shitting on the principles the USA have been based off, at least in my opinion. I was just trying to make a funny joke. I'm not disagreeing, I actually agree, I was just making a joke based on how many decisions are made in the US recently that go against the constitution, I sometimes forget that everybody down here is offended and attacked by everybody, instead of just taking everything a little more lightly.
Jose Wright
i wasnt offended, i just legit had no idea what you were referring to. i missed the joke i guess
Landon Nguyen
>having sex with underage minors however is bad. that's what i'm talking about. Yes, there are Ppl with that ... "problem", i mean, being attracted to Kids. But that doesn't mean it's okay then.
Asher Turner
Thank you, sorry for stamping you as offended friend.
James Richardson
I would not, because I am not physically attracted to children, but if all was consensual, I would have no issues with someone else who had that type of relationship, even if sexual; it's not the way they look that should be important, from a legal or philosophical perspective, but their ability to consent to sexual contracts; that is, their mental ability to exercise their innate self ownership and sovereignty.
Aaron Thompson
fpbp
William Nguyen
You are, in fact, still a pedophile, but your actions here would harm no one, except, maybe, yourself, psychologically; that, however, is your own business.
Adrian Rodriguez
even if you were to say "attracted to kids" no harm is being done unless they act on urges, so its not inherently bad.
most pedos are not attracted to snot nosed kids, which is why most resort to loli instead which is a better alternative anyway. but the stigma of being a "pedo" is still there. and to be honest its discrimination.
Colton Allen
if you keep staying at home fapping to some lolicon...
but can you suppress your sex-drive a whole life, just by consuming Lolis? consider, that Child-Porn (not Lolis, actual Pedo-Porn-Stuff) also is a great harm to kids and also punishable. And that's good.
Connor Thompson
>Lets say there was serum that prevented a person from aging passed the age of 12. You fucking retard, either way it's still a 12 year old.
Angel Miller
well thats the point here ive been trying to make. pedo and homo kind of go together. both are frowned upon by general soceity, but neither are inherently bad unless you actually do something illegal.
of course you can and most people do it. what you just said is like saying "can you suppress your drive to not steal that nintendo switch your coworker left on the break room table during lunch?".
fapping to loli is not what prevents you from doing illegal stuff, your morals do.
Michael Adams
>30 years old = 12 year old
So far thread has been fairly tame and civil, lets not start getting autistic now.
Hunter Lopez
pedoanon is 100% right also, at least in germany, there's organisations that provide therapeutic help for pedos so they can resist the urge. The porn on this thread is vivid I'm opening in second window just to fap this is great.
Matthew Roberts
have another friendo.
Brayden Williams
Aw yiss.
Alexander Ward
yeah maybe you can. But the Sexdrive is something else. Ask a cleptomaniac if he can surpress his ... "clepto"-Drive with that switch again.
Isaac Reed
i mean if we are talking about sex drive then we can also use rape as an example. What prevents you from raping that 15/10 asian crush who is drunk out of her mind and laying on your bed?
exactly.
Jaxon Gonzalez
you can't fap the clepto-drive away, tho
Thomas Davis
would hit tbh
Gabriel Murphy
Okay user. You meet a transgirl who is perfect in every way for you - her personality is fantastic, she has every trait you love in a woman, and has a crush on you. Would it still be gay?
The answer by the way is yes you fuck, being attracted to a child makes you a pedo, even i fyou can pretend its legal becuase she's actually 30 or a 1000 year old dragon like shitty anime always pulls.
Lucas Reyes
well others might not tho. so its just a matter of weakness i guess.
John Parker
you have a point, Kinda.
>mixing metaphores great argument ....
Nicholas Gonzalez
30 years old is not a child.
1000 year old dragon lolis also not child.
Christian Wood
Doesnt matter.
It might be *legal* becuase she has understanding of what's going on. But you're still attracted to a 12 year old body. That's pedophilia you faggot.
Colton Scott
...
Jacob Ortiz
But nothing would be bad about fucking a 1000 year old dragon loli and therefore nothing at all would be wrong with being a pedo. i think thats the entire point ive made here.
here, have some more dragon loli. 1/10 troll but atleast you tried!
William Reed
I live for the moment, I die for the moment. If I'm hunted for rape charges I could at least do some crazy shit like run naked trough a trump protest or smth without doubt. Who knows, maybe they'll even drop a few years off the charge.
Jayden Anderson
As i said. It would be legal, but would still be pedophilia you fucking moron.
Pedophilia means youre attracted physically to children. So if you have a boner for a thousand year old dragon who happens to look exactly like a 12 year old - congratulations youre a pedophile. You arent breaking any laws, becuase she is of sound decision making mind and is far beyond age of consent. But you're a pedophile.
Ethan Harris
Nobody's saying it wasn't pedophilia so shut your mouths you faggots. We're just saying it's morally acceptable.
Robert Allen
no one said it wouldnt be considered pedo kiddo. i was just asking a question.
Dominic Parker
Is that a bad thing to be?
Aaron Hernandez
>not breaking laws >completely legal >can consent >mentally able to consent >but you still a pedo faggot
so what is the problem here exactly?
Luke Green
To be honest, it should be a crime NOT to fuck kanna.
Levi Flores
I refer you faggots to the actual op right here. Yes you would still be a fucking pedophile.
Now, sure, that isnt necessarily a bad thing on its own - the bad thing comes from acting on it and harming children.
Of course, since this whole thing is just an exercise in trying to justify the fact that you want to fuck children, and neither dragon lolis nor this magical drug are real, the point is moot. You wanna fuck kids, there's no way in which that isnt illegal pedophilia. You'd better learn to live with it, lads.
Matthew Robinson
I'm not a pedophile, I just want to discuss with faggots. I would never fuck a flat twelve year old miniperson, that's not sexually interesting to me. But you don't give a fuck, you just generalize us all into this image of a sick and disgusting pedo monster you have in your head and don't give a fuck about the actual words we're saying. You just came in here to relieve your anger at some online strangers, you're an autistic beta faggot for assuming that "this whole thing is just an exercise in trying to justify the fact that you want to fuck children" which isn't true at all fucker.
Justin Parker
except we want to fuck 1000 year old dragon lolis or demons, aka mentally stable and consenting adults, not kids.
Oliver Howard
This. You’re right, but do you like lolis, user?
Joshua Gonzalez
would you fuck thick oppai loli instead then?
Sebastian Martin
honestly as long as it doesn't have a dick I'm game
well... i guess a trap could work
Josiah Myers
>hmm... I wanna draw some cute naked children but that's illegal... how can i justify that? >oh okay, how about she's a millenia old dragon who can also take human form? As an 8 year old! It's flawless! I mean feel free to pretend that that's not the only reason dragon lolis fucking eixst, but we all know it is.
No, not particularly.
William Brown
What if you are sexually attracted to all body types
Jace Evans
Then you're an omni sexual, which also includes some pedophilic tastes. As well as gerontophillic, ephebophillic, etc.
Oliver Garcia
>the sexual preference for the elderly
I wouldn't say it was a preference but I'd be lying if I didn't search for grandma porn sometimes. And not like 50 shit I mean old lady 70s.
But a preference? Eh... I can fap to a plastic bag floating in the wind.
Ryan Brown
no too unrealistic to get me hard I'm not pretending that, I'm just saying that you pretending to know what we're all thinking and what we all want is laughable at best, we are different personalities which all have different reasons to be in this thread, and not just one unified retarded one
Caleb Morris
I do fuck it only if she wanted to and knew whats going on. Age doesnt really matter if both are into it. Sex is sex. Its a normal human thing to do. I bet human fucked lolis 1000 years ago too without others complaining.
John Murphy
I didnt pretend a single thing user. I merely said that none of these things exist - so if you want to fuck them, the only way that can happen is with real life pedophilia. Which is illegal.
You're the one who decided i was angry and lashing out at someone.
Brandon Green
Wait so your not a pedophile if a 12 ur can conceive a child ??
Liam Bell
>Of course, since this whole thing is just an exercise in trying to justify the fact that you want to fuck children, and neither dragon lolis nor this magical drug are real, the point is moot. >You wanna fuck kids, there's no way in which that isnt illegal pedophilia. >You'd better learn to live with it, lads. No, you did not at all pretend like we all want to fuck kids, and you did in no way accuse us of being pedophiles, and you did and still aren't in any way lashing out at someone
Oh, wait, actually you did accuse all of us on pedophilia and the only point of your reply was to make people feel dirty, assuming everything anyone could assume just from the title. Thanks for being prejudicial with us today user, now you can happily kys.
Also, pedophilia still isn't illegal, fucking children is.
Owen Thomas
what about dwarfs that look like children????
Brody Harris
excuse me?
Brayden Jenkins
u mean midgets? also ok
Carson Sanchez
What if I fuck a twelve year old, but I'm not attracted to her?
Zachary Ross
then u go to jail retard.
Bentley Turner
But what if I didn't?
Nolan Adams
being a pedo is not illegal. are you that much of an illiterate?
Isaiah King
then you probably couldn't get an erection and failed to ejaculate and left since you weren't attracted mr retardo.
Michael Gomez
i know a spiderman thread when i see one
Aaron Thomas
...
Sebastian Sanders
your a bit late autismo. thread is over. but feel free to bump to get some more disccussions in.