i just saw SW yesterday. Been a huge SW fan since they remastered the original trilogy and got to watch it in a theater with my grandfather and a little before that when i watched them in really bad dubbed Spanish in a local network. But Ep VII wasn't really my cup of tea and even tho i liked rogue one, with all the things surrounding this movie i was kinda biased, so i waited to forget all those biases and went to see it with my cumdumpster the last day it was shown on theaters
and i hated most of it. the trolling scene in the beginning made me chuckle. the whole casino thing could've been done better. the political commentary was tiring and unnecessary. but of all, i hated this character. purple haired, always right, motherly attitude and the whole "i'll let you know nothing about the dumb plan until you have to recognize that i'm a genius" coming from a character that they have to do the whole "is she the super heroic strategist that achieved this thing that nobody knows about and we will just name once so that the audience think she's all that?" really rustled my galactic jimmies. I mean, i can understand the porgs, the whole luke skywalker gives up for a while and yoda burning the texts and the whole "jedis and siths don't exist nomore" for a couple minutes, but this character and the fact that they made her a martyr really fucked the movie, i hope she gets stricken out of the canon forever
Jordan Martin
I feel if they had someone else, like if lando was in that spot the movie would've been bearable, I feel that the whole casino thing could've been scrapped
Dominic Stewart
the sexual tension between the purple hair chick and the pilot guy was kinda weird
Nolan Cook
oh, it could, just like pod racing, ewoks, the whole weird chess with chewy, and other parts of the previous movies, but i understand why they added that, aside from fluffing the movie. What it could've been out was the whole political commentary of that part, had they chink and the nigg just gone to a planet, had this adventure, found the plot device and tried to do everything like they did, it would've been ok for me
Juan Phillips
Brah, that whole movie failed because of one big important issue. If that purple haired bitch had have just told Poe her plan, there would have been 0 problems. They travel to the hoth planet, board transports and make it to base safely. End of movie. Her stubbornness and the SJW cucks in Hollywood needed to make a 'strong female' character to be a stubborn bitch and ruin an entire fucking movie.
Levi Bell
All I know is I wanna fuck Laura Dern like her career fucked her.
Charles Ramirez
tf are porgs lamo
Gabriel Rogers
i HATED this movie. the only parts i liked were the scenes with kylo ren, because he's the only one that wasn't crack'n wise every 5 seconds.
Connor Miller
count the "powerful female" characters in the good side count the servant men bellow them
now count the men in the bad side now count the women just visible in the bad side
now count the women doing heroic or correct things count the times a woman dies on screen vs the times a man does
these numbers, in this proportion are the equality that feminists are looking for
Zachary Bailey
The preachy politics could be overlooked if the writing had been better. Both the first order and Holdo are criminally incompetent though.
When the first order arrives at the planet they see the rebels loading their ships to flee, but they have their dreadnought bombard the surface rather than the damn ships. If these supposed commanders were at all competent they would blow up the ships and then take their time with the now stranded rebels.
Meanwhile Holdo might have held back telling people what the plan was out of a fear of a spy being on board, but she also went out of her way to give the impression that there was no plan whatsoever and that they were doomed. Complete lack of leadership on both sides, and both Holdo and the Dreadnaught captain died as they deserved to, the only sad part being that it hadn't been earlier.
Also the way they tried to make Holdo a martyr was badly done as it sabotages the original movies. If hyperspace ramming is a thing then it turns out the deathstar wasn't a threat after all, just have a droid piloted garbage ship ram it and it will be destroyed or out of action for months.
Meanwhile there were no effective villains in the story. In their zeal to turn the first order in to a straw man of whatever group it is they want us to hate they forgot that antagonists need to be intimidating and just made Hux a whipping boy, made Snoke inept, and made Kylo Ren a conflicted ninny who tells us how bad he is but then hesitates to take the shot... On the flipside Rey is just amazing at everything because reasons and beats up Luke making for a protagonist I just can't care about.
I could stomach the preachy anti-capitalist isms that the movie was spouting if it was at least well written, but sadly it wasn't.
Michael Nguyen
i don't trust that "finn" guy...
Lucas Myers
You mean Finndu Nuffin?
Anthony Reyes
III > V > IV > II > VI > I > R1 > VII > VIII
Julian Cooper
agreed, pc culture ruined the movie don't forget indestructible ray and her being overpowered just because the other side is too strong
Kayden Carter
spotted the retard. >person a and person b dont like each other >OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT TO FUCK
kys
Alexander Perez
Nah but between Rey and Kylo Ren there definitely is some
Michael Cruz
Hollywood is basically a bunch of rapists who like to preach their morality to customers. Then they get angry when nobody sees their shitty movies. I wish that whole chuck of California would sink into the ocean.
Zachary Watson
was it just me or did they tried to hint that they were brother and sister until they did the stupid "your mom and dad were nobodies" bit?
Christopher Jackson
Yeah I think they were trying to make you believe that. Or they were actually going for that from episode 7 but decided it would be to obvious or something.
Kevin Turner
The movie had a different director than episode 7. good luck trying to get a consistent story with that collosal fuck up
Aiden Hughes
if they made holdo look like this i might been ok with how bad she was written
Angel Russell
Yeah I know that was a terrible idea. It also felt like in episode 7 they were trying to make Rey Finn's love interest but in episode 8 they just decided to add an asian girl because they forgot to add one before and then made her Finn's actual love interest, because a white girl and black guy would probably make audiences uncomfortable
Blake Sullivan
There must have been some acrimony between the directors or an excessive amount of meddling from the Disney suits for it to turn out like this. They fumbled every single setup from ep VII and had such weak writing in ep VIII that it can't be any sort of plan.
They want me to believe a serious military wouldn't launch fighters as soon as they dropped out of hyperspace? They want me to believe that a leader in a desperate chase wouldn't assure her battered and scared troops that there WAS A PLAN IN MOTION to save them? No? That Rose and Finn somehow survived running back to the base? and it goes on like this.... I really don't care what happens to the characters in the next movie but I suggest they get a different monkey to write the script.
Austin Morris
Finn and Poe were supposed to be gay lovers and it was even stated that Ep. 7 would be the first to have an openly gay character, but now that Disney is trying hard to break in to the Chinese market they need to censor that - on screen depictions.
Remember - when there are hundreds of millions of dollars on the line hollywood will throw any minority under the bus just like Apple, a company with an openly gay CEO will keep selling products in to Saudi Arabia and other countries that behead gays.
Andrew Gonzalez
i hope they used the previous ATAT models instead of those with gorilla hands
Julian Scott
Everyone is saying that she had the plan of colliding their cruiser with the enemy fleet but from what I saw, it seemed like something she thought of in reaction to watching the rebel transport ships being destroyed. I think on the other hand, it was retarded for the crew not to tell the purple haired bitch the 'find codebreaker to destroy the ftl tracker' plan
Brandon Price
100% agree. Sadly it was just as dumb/criminally incompetent for Holdo to not assure her people she had any plan whatsoever.
Brayden Morales
The movie is not about this caracter. She has a minor role. The fact that you keep this up above everything shows you feel uncomfortable with authoritative women in position of power.
Isaac Kelly
Holdo was bad, but the whole "stay ahead of their guns while they pick us off one by one" was really bad storywriting.
Bentley Butler
make it uncomfortable with badly inserted characters in movies that i otherwise would enjoy and we have an agreement
Joseph Phillips
Imagine just for a second, general Akbar doing that scene:
Movie would immediately be 10/10. He reverse-traps the "empire" and utterly destroys them with a brilliant move. It would be glorious, I wouldnt even care if he acted weird about it - he's a master strategist and if he told anyone it would only increase the chance of not working exactly as planned.
The way its shown when Holdo does it, it just seems like she came up with that move 10 seconds before doing so and unfortunately destroyed 90% of the transports because she doesnt know what a de-cloaking scan is, its utterly retarded.
Kevin Martin
>II nigga you gay
actually there was way more implied sexual tension between her and Leia, which I find very disgusting since she's technically married
Noah Rogers
make it 11/10 if someone in the big ship he would've destroyed screamed "it's a trap!" before he engaged in speed light and rammed his ship
12/10 if admiral akbar was asked by radio "admiral, what are you doing?!" while turning around the ship and telling the rebels, in a very calm fashion "it's a trap"
srsly, i would probably walk out with creamed pants if that happened
Grayson Cox
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Lucas Gomez
>II >nigga you gay fuck you man the detective obi-wan parts in the beginning were cool as fuck and geonosis was alright
>this captcha
Parker Rodriguez
I don’t understand complaints about political commentary. What political commentary?
If it’s not a white man in the lead role it’s all of a sudden political commentary?
Jackson Cox
how bout the whole "guys who sell weapons also sell them to the rebels"? or maybe the whole "liberating the oppressed horses"? or maybe the whole "the jedi order doesn't work, you have to burn it down and build it again because it's old"? all those, and a couple more that im missing right now are completely unnecessary
Jayden Price
you mean Rey? nobody said anything after Force Awakens Holdo is not a lead role at all, she's not even a leader.
Juan Russell
I think the real problem with Purple hair lady is that they made her act too much like a snide bitch. If she had been more stone cold about pulling rank, like a proper Officer, then I don't think there would have been much of a problem.
The issue seemed to be is that the movie was intentionally playing off your assumption that Flyboy was actually in the right as one of the main characters, coupled with the fact that she was a snide bitch. I watched her first scene and I thought to myself "Wait, am I supposed to like her or not?" I didn't mind the whole "I'm not telling you the plan" thing, as there isn't a military officer alive that is answerable to their subordinates. If anything she went easy on the pilot guy.
The problem was is that they tried hard to make you dislike her, only to try and pull a fast one on you later. If they had commited to the idea that she's actually competent and badass then they could have pulled off the conflict, her heroic sacrifice, and shit without leaving the viewers feeling like they'd been intentionally set up to dislike her.
Jeremiah Edwards
Question, did the people who made episode VIII ever watch a Star Wars movie or at least episode VII? It felt like they haven't/didn't to me
Julian Smith
Can someone tell me why they didn't hyperlight smash the two escort ships into the first orders vessel?
Adam Sanchez
Can some one please tell me why they just didn't jump to light speed into: >the Death Star >star base killer >the hoth shield generator Seems easier than attacking it
Ian James
they only used the gorilla hands one so that they could make new toys of it etc
Jaxon Cox
you're not supposed to like her at first, they set her up as a bitch so that later on there's a message about sacrifice and that reputation has no real bearing. I didn't like her either, in fact I'm a huge fan of Poe and I thought she was a bitch until she sacrificed herself to save everyone. after that you're supposed to realize that yeah she could have handled the situation on the bridge with Poe better but she had everyone's best interests at heart.
Jackson Collins
why don't we just order our military to use jets to suicide bomb all the terrorists, seems easier than attacking them.
Caleb Allen
>sacrificed herself to save everyone after basically all but a few transport are destroyed
Jason Price
Presumably the fact that they didn't 'block' it somehow was due to the fact that they weren't expecting her to go in that direction.
Austin Gonzalez
my question is: why the hell didn't she do the hyperspace doomsday jump sooner...
Jonathan Robinson
>If that purple haired bitch had have just told Poe her plan, there would have been 0 problems. Military doesn't work on "I'm the hero plz tell me everything" rules. Need to know, motherfuckers.
Elijah Sanders
>guise rebel/terrorist groups never used suicide bombings before in our history Kek
Anthony Foster
I really like it when my generals in combat situations wear nightgowns, i see it all the time on battleships in the Atlantic,
Samuel Young
Put her in an actual uniform with appropriate hair and you'd completely fix her tbh
Ethan Martin
I just watched it for the second time today (went to a theater and everything). It was/is a fantastic movie from start to finish, with a type of brilliance not even Lucas himself could have possibly imagined alone.
You're just being a pedantic puss-puss.
Kevin Ramirez
>tfw Kylo went apeshit in the elevator You're just a kid in a mask. >RIP
Lincoln Rodriguez
>be in star wars galaxy >death star coming to a world near you >robots exist >they can fly ships >instruct one robot to jump to light speed into death star >robot does it >lose one large ship >lose one robot >no one on your planet dies
Jace Barnes
>robot discovered >robot dismantled >death star staff gets information on where the robot came from + plans >death star goes to where it came from >??? >millions of screams suddenly silenced
Tyler Allen
Typical leftist hollywood brainwashing destroying modern film making. You'd think they would actually enjoy making money but the agenda always takes priority.
Leo Myers
I immediately discredit anyone's opinion who says they "hated" the movie. Sure there were parts to dislike, and characters to dislike, but nothing that would warranty hating the entirety of the movie unless your an autistic fuck who has already decided the direction the franchise should go based on your cliche, fanboy expectations.
Andrew Russell
Spotted the virgin.
Ian Walker
>be original movies >cant stop frigates from coming in and deploying ships
how could they stop a frigate from coming out of light speed near them. Then suddenly jumping to light speed into them. especially with the reaction time of a robot? Or even just make sure that where ever the robot is jumping into light speed that the ships path goes through the death star? How would you stop that?
Kayden Reyes
>program a giant block of metal with a basic destination/direction and have it jump >nothing left to recover
Jayden Harris
Oh fuck off. The Last Jedi is the first good Star Wars movie in 30 years.
Lots of pacing issues and plot holes, plus character inconsistencies between various points in their character arcs, keep it from being great. I'm pretty sure you can cut the entire Canto Bight arc from the film and it'd be not only better, but no more confusing for the omission.
But it's still a really good film. The music and visuals are great, probably because this is the first Star Wars by an actually skilled director since George replaced all the talented people who worked on the OT. The core emotional arc between Rey, Kylo, and Luke works really well and everyone involved gives great performances. The action is really fun when it counts, like the opening with Poe or Luke's short but sweet duel with Kylo, despite the pacing dragging a lot during the second act.
Overall, I rate 86/100 - better than anything *since* the OT, but weighed down by too many plot and pacing problems to be on the level of the originals.
Lucas Allen
is everybody forgetting the bombing scene? this immediately triggered me so hard, I lost all hope in the movie the moment I saw this. fucking bombs have to be dropped MANUALLY BY A SWITCH for dramatic effect in an era of space travel, also somehow 1 small bomber with millions? of bombs seems to be able to destroy 1 DREADNOUGHT in a scene where all its bombs seem to be dropped in the first few meters of their bombing run, yet somehow the next shot the whole dreadnought is getting bombs over its whole length. I cant remember everything that's wrong with that scene and I'm glad because that memory would only fester itself into a tumor.
>also a dreadnought supposedly one of the strongest ships in the universe equipped with like 5 laserturrets
Cooper Smith
I cheated on my former gf with a pregnant retard.
Carter Torres
>How? Because we're dealing with robots who, for the most part, are either shaped like trashcans, large bowling balls*, or humanoids suffering from walking-sleep paralysis. If it were Mr. Data or maybe even IG-88, I could see it. Plus, they can actually detect when something is about to come out of hyperspace...certainly the Empire/First Order.
*Though BB-8 was good on his own, he would not be undetectable.
>block of metal is intercepted
Carter Thomas
someones bitter about Han still lul
Parker Hill
>armor the ship >put no armor on the turrets There were some curious design decisions there.
Benjamin Clark
/thread
Ian Lewis
the little things Chewbacca had in the cockpit of the falcon
Evan Nelson
This wouldve happened whether there actually is an SJW agenda or not
Jacob Jones
>block of metal is intercepted Intercepted by what? You don't lob it from halfway across the galaxy and hope nothing gets in the way, you can do it from anywhere, even nearby, deployed from another vessel. There are practically infinite applications to make it incredibly effective.
Cooper Myers
Tractor beam. Certainly if it's telegraphing that it's on its way.
Samuel Cook
wow
haha
le epic
Logan Brooks
>Because we're dealing with robots who, for the most part, are either shaped like trashcans, large bowling balls*, or humanoids suffering from walking-sleep paralysis. If it were Mr. Data or maybe even IG-88, I could see it. Plus, they can actually detect when something is about to come out of hyperspace...certainly the Empire/First Order. the dont need to think, just light speed jump to position x,y,z and then jump to another x,y,z. They def can handle flying ships, and R2D2 was cunning. As for detecting a ship coming out of hyperspace part, how soon can a ship jump back into hyper space? A robot would only need an instant to reset nav computers
Elijah Stewart
>attract Chinese market by letting a fat chink fall in love with a deserting nigger
Jason Howard
>guise should we armor our turrents >nah, nobody shoots the turrents! kek
Joseph Hernandez
>block of metal is intercepted >at the speed of light Really, nigga?
Daniel Lewis
And before then, they'd see it coming a parsec away. At best, they'd have to do what DJ did for Finn and Rose on that smaller ship when they were infiltrating Snoke's.
Hunter Cook
>telegraphing Sure, theoretically, but something moving faster than light from a reasonable distance isn't going to be trackable when you have no way to know when/what direction it comes from.
Cooper Lewis
>when it comes OUT of hyperspace >
Carter Powell
13/10 memes with allahu-akbar suicideing himself to kill the whole bad people gang
Jaxon Morris
I feel like everyone forgets the fact the the woman original plan was fucked up because they were floating in space running out of fuel so regardless the would have ran out of fuel, the Hoth like planet just so happened to come up on their radar as they were drifting and that had made the realize about the base the had forgotten. I didn't like the purple haired woman as a character very much but I feel making her a martyr was the best solution to redeem her poor performance. I thought the ports were a useless addition for the little ones to obsess over and what not, the Ewoks were goofy but not completely pointless at least the fucked the empire up in ep. 6
Alexander Thompson
It's coming out of hyperspace 8 feet up their asshole, so sure, they can intercept it if you want to call it that
Easton Green
>you can't track something at FTL speeds k...this is *not* the weak, technologically inferior Empire anymore.
Luke Nelson
you sir, have an interesting intake on all the story. 10/10
Isaiah Reyes
>the Hoth like planet just so happened to come up on their radar They were moving at sublight speed and thus didn't move that far from where she took command, she knew the planet was there from the start
Nathaniel Gomez
It doesn't need to. Remember Han talking about how you need to plan hyperspace jumps so you don't run into shit while in hyperspace? Just plot your path to go through it instead. Jump into hyperspace from 12 parsecs away and fly right through the Death Star.
Liam Moore
100/10
Jonathan Barnes
y u gotta be nasty about it?
Michael Edwards
>also lasers seem to be affected insanely by gravity during the pursuit (what the fuck is that firing arc) >big engines only in the back of al the capital ships in space, while there should be an equally big engine in the front for braking and sides for manouvring(newtons first fucking law) >I forgive george lucas but by now they should've gotten it right, right? >oh no i forgot this is made by leftist hollywood and edgy feminists who are stupid as hell
Colton Price
Then how didnt they (anyone on the death star) know the rebel frigates where coming in the original movies? Certainly that was a surprise attack, literally just one more light speed jump to ram
Jacob Rivera
There's a difference between actively following a specific ship in a specific direction and trying to perpetually preempt ramming weapons from any possible direction at any possible time.
Justin Bennett
They did know. In Ep IV, they went *to* Yavin, while in Ep VI they already knew what to expect *but* they needed more time to complete the D'Star...which they, of course, didn't get.
Noah Lewis
Good, then it looks like I finally have a chance.
Camden Nguyen
They knew because of intel received, not because they could track things en route in hyperspace
>but they tracked the Falcon Not by detecting it in hyperspace, but with a tracker on the ship
Blake Robinson
Well again, the Empire was (relatively) technologically inferior to the First Order.
Mason James
My main problem from this movie... and the force awaken is not their plots or character. It's that we don't see any fucking Alien from the SW univers of Lucas in them. Apart from Chewy and Akbar. Their is literally dozen of species in the Star Wars univers and Disney decide to just create a dozen more ( with Disney look) the casino scene, as for Maze cantina in FA where good exemple of, where the fuck are my Twilek and all the others I won't start to name.
Zachary Jones
so how does the refute that the rebels could have taken the death star down with a robot jumping into hyper space into it?
Jaxon Bailey
I enjoyed DJ He was a fun guy with likeable motives He also didn't give 2 shits about anything that was happening
Levi Cruz
Oh wow another unoriginal opinion
I don't like the movie in all but there was many good parts
>Another sheep that follows the herd another sheep to the slaughter