Prove that immigration or accepting refugees has a net negative effect on western nations.
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Prove that immigration or accepting refugees has a net negative effect on western nations
Kevin Perry
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Elijah Perry
>prove an opinion
No.
Jonathan Perez
75% of immigrants are on welfare and don't pay taxes. They're leeches. That isn't good for the economy.
Jordan Thomas
But is it an opinion?
I imagine you guys take it as fact? Don't you have some economic or criminal data to support your case?
If a leftist came up to you right now and asked you to justify why you are a detractor to the west's immigration policies, how would you respond?
Brody Edwards
>75% of immigrants are on welfare and don't pay taxes
OK good, but source?
Jacob Butler
premium b8 from my aussie shitposting m8
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Elijah Stewart
Look up the fall of the western empire
Ayden Brown
He wants to win a Facebook fight but he's too timid to just ask us.
Christopher Watson
Consider it to be productive bait. Sup Forums needs to justify their views from time to time in order to stop them from becoming like a slovenly SJWs who operate in hug boxes.
Not that a poo in loo would understand the dialectic process anyway.
Alexander Sanders
>net negative effect
Yea it's a fucking opinion.
Charles Stewart
I don't post politics on facebook, I'm legitimately interested in this issue and want to hear the best case for the anti-immigration argument.
Nolan Garcia
I am a leftist btw. But there's plenty of rational, realistic explanations as to why we don't need the immigrants. The "west's immigration policies" is a vague statement. Comparing US immigration to Italian immigration is fucking stupid.
Luke Evans
There actually are stats for that.
Immigration
IS
POSITIVE
but only if it's from EU countries.
Landon Davis
No it's not. Our salaries have stagnated ever since 2005. Coincidentally around the time you fucks joined the EU. Meanwhile Eurozone inflation is massive (prices have trippled). Our purchasing power is plummeting.
Lincoln Rogers
No not really.
For example if you were to make the case that immigration causes an economic drain then it would be useful to provide data which shows that immigrants are taking out more than they contribute. Hence why I used the term "net negative".
>But there's plenty of rational, realistic explanations as to why we don't need the immigrants.
Then let's hear them.
>The "west's immigration policies" is a vague statement.
It is. But it is you guys who lament the western movement towards open immigration in general. I actually don't care if you only focus on one country, I was trying to open it up as wide as possible for your benefit.
Leo Bailey
Use your fucking head you stupid cunt.
We aren't your personal army to go out and spoon feed you all the information.
It doesn't take a genius to realise that the most successful societies are the ones that have a combination of a shared set of values and beliefs.
Look at history and you will find case after case of 'diverse' nations all having the same end result and that is civil war and genocide.
Juan Brooks
That net negative enough for you?
Wyatt Long
>Call the white black
>Conchita Wurst
ah, I see
Isaac Clark
Because unless you're UAE, you have to support these people, competing with locals for jobs and clashing cultures.
Jayden Roberts
Because I said so.
I don't like it, so it's bad.
Henry Rogers
>Sweden: 5% of the whole population commits 77% of all rapes.
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>Norway: 90% of all rapes committed in Oslo by non-western immigrants.
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>France: The muslim population of France is 12%, yet they make up 60 to 70% of all inmates in France's prisons.
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>France: 70% of the population think there are too many foreigners & 74% think that Islam is not compatible with french society.
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>Crime statistics 2010: roughly 15% of Americas population is black, yet they commit overall 48% of all murder, 32% rapes and 55% robbery.
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>Multiculturalism has utterly failed.
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>Sweden, 48% of assault rapes committed by non-western immigrants
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>Immigrants in Norway are a net loss to the economy
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>Immigrants in Sweden are a net loss to the economy
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>Public opinion in most countries are not in favor of immigration
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>Norway has begun to self-segregate pupils based on ethnicity to avoid ethnic conflict even with just a tiny bit of diversity
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>Increases in diversity correlate with problems worldwide, and the downsides of diversity effect everyone, it's a universal human problem:
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>Increased diversity correlates sharply with decreased community spirit, decreased altruism, depressed social capital, less ethical behaviour, more crime, fear, isolation and depression:
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>Diversity experiments in Germany end in disaster
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>Denmark saved billions by restricting immigration:
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>Swedish politician speaks on camera about immigration issues and expresses different views when secretly filmed.
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>Paul Weston, chairman of Britain's counter-Jihad party 'Liberty GB' speaks about the Woolwich murder, Islam and the state of Britain today.
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Nicholas Gonzalez
In the United Kingdom:
Approximately 2.8% of the population is black. (Source: 2012 Census)
In 2011-2012, 23% of arrests were of blacks, 4 times higher arrest rate for blacks than whites, taking population into account (Source: MOJ publication, "Race and the Criminal Justice System")
In Australia:
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In the UK, ethnic minorities disproportionate source of crime and asocial behaviour:
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UK has more blacks in jail proportionately than the US:
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Denmark saved billions by restricting immigration:
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Cameron Lewis
TIM APPROVED VROOOOOOOOM VROM
Owen Phillips
Too easy.
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>Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam -- famous for "Bowling Alone," his 2000 book on declining civic engagement -- has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings.
Anthony Allen
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>British Girls Raped by Muslim Gangs on "Industrial Scale"
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and another 2015
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more 2015, 12/13 year olds
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Girls lured into sex trade for the price of a McDonald's: Council faces legal action for not stopping Asian gang
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now germany is being culturally enriched
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a 14 year old boy raped by invaders in public pool 2016
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Gavin Edwards
The scale sucks, as you can see.
Connor Turner
now, with all this said, can you show me the positives that outweigh these negatives?
>inb4 you can eat a shitty kebab made out of your daughter
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Matthew Cox
I would like to thank you for starting this thread since it created a situation where leafy-bro posted a shit-ton of pasta and I was able to acquire it.
Good job, Mr Shill.
Xavier Ramirez
You know. I'm not even surprised. We have a long history of eating the ones we love.
Though I suppose I'm a bit disgusted he would aim for some low-tier British slag over a nice homegrown Ewe.
Jonathan Powell
he was a muslim living in new zealand you twat
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