Where were you when Brooker became the master of psychological horror?

Where were you when Brooker became the master of psychological horror?

I don't know, it hasn't happened yet.
Who won the election, by the way?

In fucking Britain where it all started!

What did he mean by this?

s03e02 was one of the worst in the whole series famalam

I'd have to agree. Decent episode of tv, but certainly one of the weakest BM episodes.

>create strong AI
>uses it for "le spooky experience XD"

All of the interesting directions that could have been taken and he went with a haunted house. Great.

Episode 2 would have been better without the stereotypical loud American.

Probably accurate, yeah

Anyone else hate the protagonist? He struck me as Reddit: The Character.

>create strong AI
Seemed like it was just causing hallucinations.

This is going to be the new advanced interrogation methods (tortur) of the future. Did you miss that one?

He was great. That's Kurt Russell's boy.

wtf i hate enhanced interrogation methods now
when did they say this

Was Shou Saito supposed to be Hideo Kojima?

MOM!

MOM!

MOM!

MOM!

They didn't need to say this, use your brain.

That's what I thought but then again I don't play that guys games and don't know anything about him.

>horrible nightmare of hallucinations caused by your own fears
>feel like you were in there for a week
>get ripped out
"Wow, you lasted a full half a second in there, willing to talk now?"

The future is going to be horrifying

How autistic are you

>le
>XD
go

that was the point

>the point was to hate the character

explain

>jap
>not making a porn game, or loli simulator
immersion ruined, desu senpai
my safe word is yamero

OP here, apparently Brooker stated he just wanted to do a horror episode and that this episode didn't mean anything in particular.

Never mind, Brooker confirmed for hack. I should be writing this shit

Was anyone hoping there'd be a few more creepy scares in the mansion?That's one thing I was a bit disappointed in.Yes, he was really frightened of Alzheimer's but they could have got a couple more jumpscares in.

The concept and the implications of what he was in was scary enough.

How did he see Kojima if it was all in his head?Speaking in proper Japanese no less.Were they able to insert themselves into his hallucinations or control them?It all happened so quickly, so I don't buy that.

Did you ever hear stories of people having some kind of TBI and start speaking an entire language fluently that they don't even know?

There's a lot of shit that happens unconsciously in your brain.

wtf, i hate hideo kojima now!

Dead Set was good, I watched that before black mirror!

That's was a damn good show, especially the ending where it all goes to shit.

Should have cut the bullshit regarding the loud american tosser, his mommy issues and the girl with the stolen picture.

Instead have a shut in gamer who always plays games to escape since his mum is afraid of him leaving the house.

He sneaks off, does the horror thing, dies.

It was his mum constantly calling to check up on him that killed him.

Instead we get loud American, back packer, tacked on daddy / mommy issues, no sympathy for the dickhead.

Has anything topped S2E1 yet? Only one which has actually about the character rather than the fucked up tech.

I'm guessing you only watch modern horror if you think Black Mirror does it well.

the haunted house was in his head dipshit

Nope, Be Right Back is still the best episode.

>le snobbish condescending hipster comment
>pls gib (You)
here it is

It was better than the first one.

>modern horror
>psychological horror

Pick one and only one.

i didnt finish this episode, is it worth continuing after work. i made it to the scene where he enters the house and just begins the new scary game.

Why do you think this?

>tacked on daddy / mommy issues

I disagree. I have a father who'd I consider my best friend and a mother I'm completely alien to. The things I fear the most are losing my father to death/brain decay since he's a pretty old guy and letting my mom know how distant I am to her. I don't feel like those are tacked on seeing as though I relate 100% to the guy. Once my Dad is gone I'm gone too. I'm leaving.

This episode really hit me extremely hard in the feels in addition to how well I thought Brooker executed the psychological aspect of this kind of terror.

It's worth it to watch this entire series m8.

Yeah, nobody said it was unrealistic. It just was tacked on and felt a bit shallow in execution

For me it was mostly because it didn't have a political message and the technology was in the drive rather than the focus.

Everything was about the character and how she dealt with guilt and depression after losing someone. Compare that to any of the other episodes were it's all about how fucked up society is + a crazy tweeeeessstttt

If anything it would have felt tacked on for them not to include the background of his family issues because then the rest of the episode wouldn't make as much sense.

>it didn't have a political message

Of course it did. That episode dealt with a lot more ethical and moral things than most of the other episodes.

There was only a slight political message and that was just regarding how we post our entire personalities (fake or real) on the internet and how people can memorialize you from it.

The focus was entirely based on the character and her desicions. How far she would go to try and bring back someone and how it would affect her.

The entire political message was is it ethically and morally right for recreate dead people in any form and pry into their private lives.

>The focus was entirely based on the character and her desicions. How far she would go to try and bring back someone and how it would affect her.

Yes, and whether you believe it or not this is going to be a YUGE political problem in the future when AI and synthetics become the norm. We're seeing the rise of sex bots, who's to say we won't see the rise of dead spouse/partner bots? It's the same argument when you boil them both down.

How can you tack on something by not including it?
And how would the rest not make sense? He could have been on his adventure travel for no particular reason like thousands of people do

Such as?

What's wrong with television having a political message? And what episodes have specifically political messages, cause to me it seems like the point of most episodes is how technology can be exploited.

>How can you tack on something by not including it?

The tacked on part in that case would be "random backpacking dude does random odd-job that turns out to be a random nightmare" when the entire episode and his augmented reality/hallucination nightmare had everything to do with his family issues. It would be tacked on he was writing this story from end to start.

It would lose it's message, the uniqueness of the character and would have just made it a random goofy horror episode, which it pretty much is anyway.

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>how technology can be exploited

Or how technology can be created for already nefarious deeds. That's what Brooker is trying to drive home.

Brooker is almost saying don't be wary of some of our technological advancements, maybe use your critical thinking skills and avoid some of them all together.

>had everything to do with his family issues
Since that was tacked on, that wasnt really the case with that episode as it is.

>tacked on
>shallow

You use these words but don't explain your reasoning.

the season went from worst to best in order. I mean you could argue which between 4, 5 and 6 is best, but 1-3 were clearly the worst

it couldn't be more obvious the first two episodes were there to reel in netflix and chill college-aged turbonormies who might come across it looking for oitnb, miranda sings and stranger things.

I guess 2 wasn't *that* bad, but that 10 minute intro was a pandering waste of time and the horror wasn't particularly effective. I actually thought the end of 5 where he gets played back the video of him killing the roaches was better psychological horror, and the bees in 6.

i didn't know Sup Forums has become this fucking pleb and this easy to be impressed
really? that episode is the master of psychological horror?

>actually about the character rather than the fucked up tech.
s3e4 kinda, but Sup Forums doesn't like it because it has lesbians

>he doesn't know what hyperbole is

It says more about modern horror than it does about Charlie Brooker's attempt at horror.

>4 better than 3

3 was just a mediocre blackmail thriller. 4 was much more in keeping with the themes of black mirror. the club scenes are tedious, but the last 20 minutes or so is up there with the best of the show

also just looked up the wiki and found rashida jones did the teleplay for episode 1. explains a lot

go back to your big brother thread

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It just felt like it was poorly written in to make the mc fearful of forgetting things. It wasnt really explored beyond that. The whole "killed by the phone, should have answered it!" was also a mild eye-roller for me

>killed by the phone

Bruh, kill by the MOM.

being silly/immature was a part of running away from his problems

BRAVO KOJIMA

as I said

It also helped with the spooky house becoming slowly spookier. I kind of liked how he was a self-righteous dick about the more obvious spooks

Already sort of happened in White Christmas

Worst episode senpai

They should have just played it straight, it was a fun enough concept.

The INCEPTION XD ending absolutely poisoned the episode.

Waldo Moment was one of the best imo

No.

Die.

It's my least favorite by a landslide.

>i haven't read The Jaunt

>Stephen king

he was super fucking annoying

>reading Stephen King

I disagree . San junipero was the worst one

fun fact:

the director of 10 Cloverfield Lane directed this episode

He was like adam sandler, just spouting out references trying to be comedic.

>WOAH WE'RE GOING UP A STAIRCASE REMEMBER THAT ONE PART IN HARRY POTTER?

He's really shitty at endings, huh.

10CL had a real shitty ending, but I thought this one was well done even if it was a twist.

Hated in the Nation spooked the shit outta me.

Also, Blue a cute.

DUDE BEES LMAO

Thank you.
There are so many normsters infesting online discussion with their shitty opinions about San Junipero being the best episode. It's trash.

The backbone of the entirety of black mirror is there are no strong AIs even 50-60 years in the future, because tricking people is incredibly simple.

See ELIZA.

>just kidding, it was all a dream
>just kidding, that was all a dream too!
>just kidding, he's dead

Its better than white bear, at least. Which is what normies were calling the bestest before cute lesbians in digital heaven.

I actually thought it was going to end up being a doomsday scenario. Like, the bees would eventually just target everyone, and with their ability to self-replicate, they would spread and wipe out the human race. Sort of a cautionary tale on how even simplistic, well-meaning AI is extremely dangerous.

Wasn't quite as apocalyptic, but still pretty concerning.

There are no AIs in black mirror. Literally everything in black mirror does only what it is programmed to do.

100% chance you've said "Drumpf" unironically.

you are an absolute fucking retard let me just point that out to you

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You mean when he re-did Existenz? Or do you mean the episode before when he re-did the Meow Meow Beenz episode of Community?

Bees > coolface > Fahrenheit 451 > Silent hills > Upboats > aesthetic

At least White Bear followed the core spirit of the show: "Semi-futuristic technologies applied in horrifyingly believable ways"

San Junipero only follows that if you take the ending sarcastically. As if the warehouse scene with the brain-microchips plugged in was supposed to indicate that, no, there was no virtual heaven, these people are dead and virtual clones of them are floating around in this pointless Second Life++ thinking they've escaped oblivion. But it really just seems like it's playing it straight. It's horrible, unless you just want to watch lesbians having a awkward romance in the 70's.

>man against fire
>above anything except, maybe, white bear

... eh

Also I like how people are continually shitting on digital le bo specifically because so many "normies" are losing their shit over it, when its objectively got the most going on of any of the third season episodes.

Looks like he's sipping tea in the thumb.

Did we watch the same episode? Sam junipero does fuck all with its extended runtime except for the last 10 mins

AIs in a loose sense, I meant. They have the capability to recognize their environment and make decisions based on it to complete their goal of pollinating flowers. The point being that even that low level of sophistication ends up being extremely dangerous when something goes awry.

The old example I always heard back in school was an AI that makes staples. The AI has no real intelligence and no goal but to turn raw resources into staples, completely harmless. But someone doesn't secure it properly, it somehow gets too big and considers everything on earth its pool of resources, and our little dumb, harmless AI proceeds to destroy the entire planet and every human on it just to make as much staples as it can. That's kind of what I expected here.