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1st case - fucked up but not rape.
2nd case - clearly not rape, might depend on the state it happened in.
3rd case - again, not rape. being blackout drunk is your fault. the person you are with may have no clue you are blackout drunk when you are fucking them, because you are lucid and talking with them. passed out drunk is another story.

You're such a fucking pig holy shit lol

this is why I don't browse Sup Forums anymore

>it felt consensual at the time
what the fuck did she mean by this

>I regretted it

Woah this post is problematic

the left are EATING THEIR OWN LMAO

it means matt didn't want to date her. so she felt bad :(

Fuck off back to plebbit then you fucking baby

>by ducktailsrapist
lmao

>this is why I don't browse Sup Forums anymore
it shows

seriously what does that even mean

First one isn't rape, but it is clearly sexual assault
Second one is statutory rape
Third one is also at the very least, statutory rape.

Guys David Hasselhoff molested me

It's not a joke, I made a post about it on the internet. So don't you dare laugh

You're filth.

It means she was fucking 16 and hooking up with an older man who was emotionally taking advantage of her. This is a common thing associated with such relationships and its why it is illegal to have sexual intercourse with a minor.


You fuckers can't comprehend this because you're too autistic to understand that sexual relationships can (obviously not always) be incredibly complex for the people involved in them and that is exasperated when the individual is in their teens and not fully mature.

Holy fuck you people are retarded. She's at least admitting "it felt consensual" which means she's acknowledging the discomfort and uncertainty of the scenario and not flatly making an aggressive accusation. He's the adult. He should have known better. I'm sure there's plenty of 16 year olds who have the correct mindset and maturity but there are plenty who aren't and that's why this type of association is fucking illegal and would still be considered unethical by our society if it wasn't.

It's really not fucking complicated to fuck people who aren't teenagers.

fuck off
no one gives a shit if its legal or not
hes still a fucking creep

>It means she was fucking 16 and hooking up with an older man who was emotionally taking advantage of her.
says who? the girl could have been mature for her age and matt could have been emotionally younger than her. stop projecting you autist

I hope she says that in court one day, she would've been eaten alive by some sadistic jew lawyer.

Hey Ezra

>white ppl doing more mental gymnastics for their friends being sloots
yall fucking nuts i swear

I believe you user

>These people are on Sup Forums

Sluts are gonna slut.

how do you know that he knew that she was 16?

1st one's definitely some sort of sexual assault
2nd one's maybe rape depending on the jurisdiction. It's unlikely he'd be charged with anything at this point though in relation to it.
3rd one depends on if she was at the time inebriated enough to not be able to consent, and furthermore that Matt knew she was too drunk as well

You're 100% right but the sociopaths on here aren't going to admit it

Just get a tumblr like the rest of us when you grow out of this place. The alt-crowd is better there than here.

yep fuck off to your echochamber of safe space. where ppl never challenge your views uwu

>Its okay for adults to fuck teenagers.

Do we even know where this took place? Most states have age of consent set at 16

>no one gives a shit if it's legal or not

good post

>implying Sup Forums isn't an echochamber

Exactly.

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. Conversely, just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong.

Allowing laws to determine your ethical and moral outlook is fucking dumb.

As someone else stated, it doesn't entirely matter if its legal or not. He's not being charged with anything, its just something that indicates a pattern of nefarious behavior.

Shut up you pretentious pseudo adult. We aren't too dumb or too much of virgins to understand the siduation, we just think it's horseshit

Within the span of 5 years a musician (who gets laid all the time) he claims there's about 3 times where he had sexual intercourse in ways that could be construed as less than ideal

So he fucked a 16 year old, maybe not ideal but it isn't abhorrent because it's something sexual and it involves a woman, which I think is basically the delimiter here. If a 16 year old boy fucks a marginally older musician I can't imagine a scenario where anyone would take him seriously if he came forward orchestrating a pity party

They think they're "outing" these people in some kind of profound revelation when in reality everyone got the picture and don't give a shit because nothing felt wrong about it and they aren't losers that constantly act to fabricate a superficial blemish-free image of themselves

it's always the derivative shitty bands who turn out to be creepy fuckers

idk i rarely come on here

Or people just consider it creepy if you aren't a golden boy rockstar.

How many 16 year olds do you think Gene Simmons fucked in his career? Is it less than 20?

I mean, when you add it within the context of him jacking off ontop of sleeping woman, it is pretty damning. That's why I qualified my post by saying "maybe" etc. because you have to be fucking open to the possibility that there was some wrong doing.

>>Its okay for adults to fuck teenagers.

yeah it is lad. pic related are 17 y/o basketball ballers.

how do you prove the 3rd one?

i've been 100% black out drunk walking from house party to house party completely unaware how i got to most of the houses. i had conversations with people at the houses who thought I was fully lucid at the time.

i've also been extremely drunk, way more alcohol in my system than the time i was black out drunk and clearly and vividly remember everything about the hellish experiences I had puking and shitting and falling over everywhere, and my thought progress during that time was completely normal even though i slurred my speech while speaking.

from the outsider view i should'nt have been able to give consent when i was actually sober in my mental processes but my body was clearly drunk but also from the outsider view when i was literally blackout drunk my consent could've been given freely.

Iam12andthisisdeep

matt's next victims

The question you have to ask though is that if this were the only thing he was accused of doing would it really matter? I would say no. If he had sex with a girl 10 years younger than him but above the age of consent (assuming that is the case) and that was it it would be a non-story. Therefore I think it's wrong that that be bought up as some sort of evidence against him in regards to other allegations, as it doesn't really have any bearing on any other activities he may or may not have taking part in.

those are children. adults in their early 20s shouldn't fuck them.

That's the thing with the last one. If hypothetically someone were taken to court for that sort of scenario, the outcome would largely depend on the accused's ability to know how drunk the accuser was. If the accuser was perfectly capable to walk around and to communicate in a fairy lucid manner, even if they were actually flat-out drunk and incapable of remembering anything in their heads then they likely wouldn't be convicted because the accused had no way of knowing that they were having sex with someone unable to consent. Alternatively, if the accuser was paraletic and unable to talk they'd likely be convicted in a heartbeat if it could be proven that there was intercourse.

I can guaran-fucking-tee you that MOST of Sup Forumss and indieheads heroes have fucked 16 years olds.

everyone who was a rock or pop musician from the late 50s to the 80s definitely did. most hip-hop artists of the past 20 years are a lock as well.

its only bad when the gentle indieboys who should know better do that shit.

its funny cause you literally have to be 12 to think that laws are equivalent with morality

I wonder if Bjork has fucked any 16 year olds..

>your tears say more than actual evidence ever could

she's from iceland. most def. matthew barney prolly filmed it and he shit on reels after they were done.

Yeah it's an obvious statement that you don't understand.

What's what you meant, right? Becase otherwise your post makes no sense

What are you trying to do? You're referencing the subreddit /r/im14andthisisdeep, right? You didn't add the /r/ in front

Fuck off, reddit

boys or girls?

I don't even know there is some 14 reddit, fuck off tumblr

Yeah, I don't consider that that agregious. Girls do shit like that all the time and take pictures with their tits out over sleeping people

What's the context? It'd be disgusting if he were a doctor jerking off over a patient under anestesia, but if it's a guy doing something silly with a friend of his then no one including them gives a shit

I think the reality is that women operate on their biological imperitives and they get hysteric whenever's the possibility that they can't control things with their vagina. Replace the laid back indie rocker with pussy slaying rockstar Chad and suddenly it doesn't bother them

A girl grabbed my ass on the bus a while ago but I don't consider it an abhorrent abuse of my personal space that means she should be tarred and feathered. I consider it a somewhat obnoxious action on behalf of a person being stupid. If you wanna deconstruct sexism then start by treating women like adult people

Read an English 101 handbook and post again when you've gotten to the chapter "how to conjure a sentence", Panjeet

>being drunk excuses you from responsibility
It's not MY fault I crahed into a 6 year old girl at 90mph and turned her into roadside cadaver mush. I was too drunk to make a conscious decision of getting behind the wheel!

Sure, but that's not what that's about. The point of being too inebriated is where you are unable to function at all. If you're so drunk you're unable to walk or talk and someone sticks their dick in you then that's rape, no two ways about it. If you have three pints of bitter and shag someone then it's not.

Id you're enough of an absolute fucking idiot to get yourself in such a state you deserve it all and then some. People like her generally end up in hospitals getting their guts pumped, and if it were not for the people pumping their disabled bodies full of cum calling the ambo afterwards they generally die of alcohol poisoning.

You're completely right with that analogy, but you should still feel some kind of obligation to take care of a drunk person. If there's a drunk guy tries to give you $50 you should try and tell him that he's drunk and probably not making a good decision

If they're literally too inebriated to communicate, then yes. Otherwise if they initiate sex then it's a result of their poor decision making

>Panjeet
Did you just literally come over from tumblr? Go the fuck back.

Tumblr would never say anything bad about a brown person

I hope a big black man fucks you in your sleep.

i am a big blackman

I hope the man from Big Black fucks you in your sleep

you have to have some huge fucking mental defect to have such a shitty grasp of analogies
anyone with a brain can see that its obviously way closer to:
>Its not MY fault someone crashed into me at 90mph and turned me into roadside cadaver mush. I was too drunk to make a conscious decision of crossing the road!

>I am an alcoholic destructive piece of shit and everyone should put in effort towards accomodating my vile habbits or else they're the bad people and not me. Fuck consequences and responsibility

Keep chugging those redbull vodkas, I hope it's the vomit asphyxiation that gets you before the heart failure.

ok what is going on

Has there actually been any proof, a trial, any evidence yet?

Or is it just the hard leftists on reddit immediately believing the female accuser, tearing down a mans reputation and character based on an allegation and Chinese whispers over the internet

Gee i wonder why men are turning to MGTOW/Men's Rights/RedPill/Right wing in general

As do I

>reddit
>leftists
LMAO

>the person you are with may have no clue you are blackout drunk
Come on now.

>he unironically does not think that reddit is a hard leftist site

Are you high or just memeing me?
Did you see a the_donald post on the front page and somehow miss the 9 anti trump/unironic communist subs on the frontpage?

If you don't think Reddit is by and large a left leaning site you are quite literally delusional

Reddit is extremely liberal. And the absolute worst kind.

What gave you the impression reddit was republican? /r/the_donald? That subreddit was born out of sheer malice for reddit's liberalism, and the admins are constantly looking for some contrived reason to ban it as they have for numerous other wrongthink communities

You guys sure are proud of flexing your reddit knowledge

Essentially everything you know and believe about the world and the people in it is based entirely on you taking someone else's word for it. You have never done any kind of serious research in your life on any subject. Somehow, that's fine for a million different things you never give a second thought to, but on this one subject you suddenly demand a trial and scientific proof before you can make up your mind. Hm.

>you have never done any kind of serious research in your life on any subject

ok mate speak for yourself. I've done a lot of research throughout my life

Also your comparison is laughable. Funnily enough i actually dont base 'everything i know and believe' based on the word of some guy telling me that he knew some girls that said they may have been raped 10 years ago

Maybe you do but that's on you desu. But do tell me how i believe that Romans had big rectangle shields because somebody told me so and not because there is absolute concrete proof of that fact

I utilize reddt, too. And I hate it.

I can appreciate things beyond a binary "this thing bad that thing good"

Please don't tell the Sup Forums grandmeister and have my card revoked

I'm not talking about someone being PASSED OUT

>Blackouts can generally be divided into 2 categories, "en bloc" blackouts and "fragmentary" blackouts. En bloc blackouts are classified by the inability to later recall any memories from the intoxication period, even when prompted. These blackouts are characterized also by the ability to easily recall things that have occurred within the last 2 minutes, yet being unable to recall anything prior to this period. As such, a person experiencing an en bloc blackout may not appear to be doing so, as they can carry on conversations or even manage to accomplish difficult feats. It is difficult to determine the end of this type of blackout as sleep typically occurs before they end,[8] although it is possible for an en bloc blackout to end if the sufferer has stopped drinking in the meantime. Fragmentary blackouts are characterized by a person having the ability to recall certain events from an intoxicated period, and yet being unaware that other memories are missing until reminded of the existence of those 'gaps' in memory

> Blackouts were reported during activities such as spending money (27%), sexual conduct (24%), fighting (16%), vandalism (16%), unprotected intercourse (6%), and driving a car (3%). So a significant number of students were engaged in a range of possibly hazardous activities during blackouts.[22]

Name one (1) subreddit that's actually worth posting on and browsing

i don't care

anything that doesn't have stuff to do with politics or opinion wars honestly

Like i use the Bloodborne subreddit from time to time to discuss the game, lore, and to help others out. Or i'll use the ffxiv one because the Sup Forums general is literally 100% avatarposting.

As long as you steer away from really popular stuff thats 100% reddit 'humour' or politics, it's mostly just like a Sup Forums thread with better manners.

I vastly prefer discussing stuff on Sup Forums because it's much more honest and critical but it's limited in scope

tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/d7avzm/how-dangerous-is-it-to-black-out-from-alcohol

>During a blackout, Wetherill explains, "other parts of the brain are still functioning—likely in an impaired way—so you can still respond to your environment, but you're not creating memories for what you're saying or doing." That's why you can appear totally functional when you're talking to your boss at the company Christmas party and not recall having the conversation.

>women are more susceptible to blackouts because they're smaller, they don't have as much water in their bodies, or the enzyme in their gut that breaks down alcohol before it's absorbed.

leftist≠liberal
when will americans finally learn basic shit about politics
most of reddit are centrist who think anyone except them is an extremist and they are obsessed with hating "sjw"s
the irony is that would be doing really fucking well on reddit if you changed "hard leftists on reddit" for "sjws" or "regressive left" or some other dumb shit

>women
are they even people

Kek

Anyone whose ever had to go under general anaesthetic knows this. I've had a couple of operations and every time I've tried to fight the nurses when I've come round and have absolutely no recollection of this whatsoever.

blemish free? i might not be perfect but i dont jerk off over sleeping girls. this dude is clearly a creep, theres a fuck ton of accusations, now everyone will know hes a creep, and he will face the consequences. what the fuck do you people want. sorry, but your standards of human decency do not match up the majority.

>started feeling shitty about it as time went on

lol fuck off

/r/tf2 has always been one of the best examples. It's a lighthearted subreddit with silly humor that isn't just inane, there's a very healthy amount of intelligent discussion and worthwhile content being posted. There's all kinds of people that actively engage in it in diverse ways, but they aren't above being kind to new people. When a 13 year old says "Look at my drawing of the Pyro" they're kind and give constructive criticism.

Otherwise, yeah the ubiquitous pseudo-mature numale pretention infects about every crevice of that website. If it's a subreddit for cooking or a subreddit for cars or a subreddit for porn, everything posted reeks of projection and conversation is basically just people trying to bully eachother into having their opinion with increasing vitriol. They're basically douchebags except they don't even embody it in a way that's entertaining, they're just stupid children.

The less discussion involved, the better. Because the voting system is skewed to favor reactionary/exploitive idiots and it only gets worse the bigger the communities are. What there are, are some badass communities built around a single concept that people congregate to just because it's cool. /r/TheWayWeWere is for dated pictures of people just standing around doing things, and it's profoundly humbling. Check out the ones that just have -porn appended on the end, like /r/cityporn.

>implying i'm american
>implying liberal is not an inherently left wing stance in the modern day

Words have meanings and change over time user. The vast majority of people who would describe themselves as a liberal, or use the word in that way mean left wing politics. Do you actually think that most parties in the world with the word 'Liberal' in the name, follow the original core principles of Libertarian politics and want smaller government, less regulation and more personal responsibility? Because in practice it is quite literally the opposite.

You're trying to blur the argument with nuance and it's not working. Of course the entirety of left wing politics is not liberalism, there are also further left ideologies like Social/Communism - all of which are ALSO given a very comfortable home on Reddit. So i fail to see your point.

Also SJW hate is a fringe case on a few subs. You're again falling for a very simple mistake - because left wing thought on Reddit is so popular, it is dispersed. Since the vast majority of subs heavily downvote or outright ban 'Anti SJW' or actual Right wing politics/opinions - those with those views gravitate to the same subs, which then generate a lot of upvotes and activity, due to the highly condensed user base.

this is literally how T_D became such a dominant subreddit, and how 'anti SJW' stuff sometimes hits the front page

also: gira got accused of rape and his career is doing fine. so im really not sure what you apologists are trying so hard to defend here.

>If they're literally too inebriated to communicate, then yes
This is what people misunderstand: It's almost never like this. Women consider any amount of inebriation "blackout drunk" when it gives them a cover for some embarrassing shit they've done. I'm acquainted with a bunch of sorority girl types, and drink with their groups on occasion. They'll have 4 drinks, top off Matt in the club restroom, then say "oh my goooood I was so blacked out last night" even though they were completely lucid throughout.
I generally think victims should be believed but when they get into "well I was pretty drunk" territory, into the trash it goes.

gira fought tooth and nails to clear his names. these fags all went quiet

I've said it a hundred times and I'll continue to:
Crying about Americans using American definitions of words when discussing American politics on an American site makes you look autistic. What does your WELL ACKSHYUALLY contribute to discuorse?

if you posted that on reddit you would hit the frontpage from r/bestof

Sure, but if that's pushed forward in a court of law they'll almost certainly not get a conviction if CCTV and witness evidence suggests that they were not visibly to a state of inebriation to not be aware or in control of their actions

His fans are all edgelord males to begin with, and his one accuser is literally a psycho, and both his bandmate thor (who is an sjw to the max) and his ex-wife has stayed at his side.

at least a 3rd of matthew's fan base is female, and no one's is on matthew's side.

It really isn't. Where I live someone wearing a Swans shirt or something is going to get hit or worse. 5~10% of his shows since the revelations have been disrupted to at least some degree. The reason there isn't more of a thing around Gira is just that Swans are so niche it doesn't really catch. But it's going to pull his career apart too in time, even if it takes another year or two.

the word has the same meaning in the US
americans are just too dumb to understand it
also they have been brainwashed by the democratic party who dont want to admit that they are right wing