Why is it okay for muslims to ban non-muslims from entering Mecca and Medina...

Why is it okay for muslims to ban non-muslims from entering Mecca and Medina, but if a western country bans burkas or even says something bad about muslims they are considered racist/islamophobic?
Australia's is the only country who has this shit together; No burkas allowed, why don't more western countries follow suit??????

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you sound like a real pussy tbh

>says something bad about

It's racist to attribute some quality to an individual based on their race. Making such a claim about a Muslim because of their religion would make you a bigot, not a racist though, since Islam is a religion and not a race.

Anyways, banning burqas or other right-wing causes is anti-ethical to a putative free state with individual freedoms. I wouldn't expect an authoritarian from the right to understand that though.

Speaking as a filthy Australian, burkas aren't banned at all.

You must be thinking of France.

It’s because you fuckers go around shouting “freedom!”. They don’t do that.

You’re supposed to show them how to be civilized.

Because Mecca isn't in the West. If we start banning people from shit we become as bad as them and you'll be whinging even more then.

Okay and why is it not bigot/racist/anti-ethical for non-muslims to be banned to enter mecca and medina?

Oh, I thought it was fully banned, just went on the wiki to confirm, got this >In February 2017, she introduced a private member's bill which would amend the Criminal Code Act 1995 to make it illegal to wear full-face coverings in public places when a terrorism threat declaration is in force, unless it was necessary for certain purposes

Muslims you say???

m.soundcloud.com/crazedh/muslims-on-planes

Because they don't claim to be multicultural. They're Islamic. Also where would they ban exactly? Name one thing that is considered to be "Holy".

We havent banned ninja masks...

And burkas don't belong in the west, yet they are still there by the millions.

Because Saudi Arabia is a theocratic country, and so is openly xenophobic.
But it is necessary to differentiate the Moslem religion and a dictatorial Muslim country. Your question would be valid if you talk about the Saudis, but that's not the case.
And then, it's not because a shitty country is racist, homophobic, theocratic and filled with dumbass that it's a reason to do the same things on our floors.
Sorry for my english

By holy i mean its believed by an overwhelming majority

Its already banned in 9 countries, glad the world is waking up.

Islam isn't a race, there are Muslims of all races.

why the fuck would a non-muslim want to enter mecca or medina though

We're meant to show other cultures how to behave. Not sink to their level by banning things and creating division.

Ban people to enter mecca and medina is anti-ethical and stupid.
But, hey, this is the saudi arabia, obviously they are anti-ethical, racist and stupid.

>Some sandnigger countries are stupids, racist, xenophobic and anti-ethical.
>It allows us to do the same shit lmao

>theocratic Islamistic countries are shit because of their lack of religious freedom
>we therefore should follow suit and decrease religious freedom

The only necessities are keeping public offices/services secular (which is what is mostly meant with the "burka ban", which includes Christian symbols) and publicly denouncing and fighting Islamism, aka politicized Islam. Like with any other cult, which is by definition an enemy of the constitution.
The latter mostly pertains to salafists/wahabi Muslims.

So long as we refuse the impulse to play into terrorist propaganda, our way of life will simply win out.
Tho it would probably help if we stopped backing countries like Pakistan and the Saudis, who are the worst offenders.

lmfao +1

Yeah but they are the 2nd biggest religion and with them not using condoms they will soon be the #1 religion and these ethics and norms will be forced upon all just like christianity is atm. That is my concern.

Islam is incompatible with western values.

What harm does a burka cause you? Why ban it?

Oh, you mean Australia...

That bill didn't pass in down under Australia.

I agree with this mostly, it's unfortunate that most people in the west don't understand that Wahhabi and Salafi Muslims cause 99.9% of Islamic terrorism.

That's like asking; what harm does a non-muslim cause in Mecca and Medina? Why ban them?

If someone wants to cover their face, they dont need a fuckin burqa mate. It was a dumb idea then and its still dumb. Theyll just make the girls rub charcoal on themselves

free state is basically an illusion and you should know that, if there is state there is no complete freedom, that's what's fundamentally wrong with your argument, and by the way you are also a bigot, OP never once said he was from the right-wing

They don't want to cover their face, they HAVE to otherwise allah and the males will punish them lmfao

because saudi arabia is a shitty fucking theocratic dictatorship and you seem to be arguing that western nations should become the same

+1

It's considered a holy site and would be defiled by non believers. Those places aren't in the West, they are in Muslim controlled areas. Again, what does what someone wears matter to you?

I would be fine with the Vatican banning non catholics.

No, when did I say that? my question is just why is it considered racist/islamophobic if its done against them to prevent their beliefs/hatred from further spreading.

It doesn't, it just bothers me that its considered islamophobic if I don't agree with their beliefs.

this is symbolic, burkas take some of the freedom of potential terrorists(imo, after if you really want to use the stupid burka, you will stay in your country), and if it's a law, there is no wrong or right, it's the law and you should obey it

+100

Because doing anything to prevent a minority from doing anything is seen as racist if it comes from a white person or controlled country.

I need sauce for that pic. Allahdamnit OP

Because when retarded white try to act civilized and smart, they do stupid fucking shit.

Mecca is already an overcrowed shitshow with more and worse and more often crushes that Wacken (before they started trying to stop them)

banning non-muslims is to prevent gawpers getting themselves crushed acting like gawpers

Former prison colony leading the way in global politics....not so much.

Because one is respecting their religion by not allowing people that dont believe in the same things, so why would people want to enter if you're not a Muslim. But burkas and different things represent their religion, and there are Muslims all around the world, so for some it would be like taking a part of their religion. (Just my thought)

Not every girl wants to be a slut showing everything but the nipple. Not every husband wants them to wear one. You got to understand that its different person to person

I think the problem is, muslims don't approve or accept any other religion, they believe that they are the right ones and everyone else is wrong and they don't want to live next to non-muslims. Statistically in the future they will have a larger population than western people and then things might start to get clashy.

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I don't understand
>burkas take some of the freedom of potential terrorists
As in they may have concealed weapons or If they commit a crime they are concealed through religious or cultural clothing? Removing burqas would fix those issues? What then about someone concealing their face with a balaclava or trench coat? I wear both in the cold when it's in the negatives. Should those clothing items be banned too?

Burkas are also banned in France.

If you mean the islamic veil/hijab, they're allowed in France and the other countries where burka is banned.

There are 13 countries than ban the burka : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burka_ban_in_Australia

And no Australia has not passed the law (that I know of), it's being debated.

So it's Australia that's following, not leading.

Please verify info before posting fake facts, k thx bye famalam

> spread legalism in 2018

And if the law is unfair or used to oppress? Killing Jews in Nazi Germany was legal, but that did not mean it was the right thing to do.

Yeah they are outbreeding everyone else.

Just go to pornhub and type muslim and set it to pro videos

If you don't cover your entire body you are a slut? lmfao?? muslim confirmed

Dumbass, this has already been posted in here, read before you post something that's not relevant and has already been clarified.

Maybe someone would have a answer to this I’ve been asking myself for a while. What would happen if we blew up Mecca? What would the outcry be like and what would happen to the Muslim faith?

Because western nations are more developed and beleive that all people are born innately with rights and we also think we should be better then shit flinging retards in the middle east

>Yeah but they are the 2nd biggest religion and with them not using condoms they will soon be the #1 religion and these ethics and norms will be forced upon all just like christianity is atm. That is my concern.
That isn't how population growth works. And definitely not how demographic growth works.

Have more confidence in your culture, m8.
Just look at our own history. We seem to have found some kind of way of making people lose any interest in conservative religious values (apart from small groups).
i.e.: While it is true that the number of conservative Muslims increases in second and third generation immigrants, the rest pretty much abandons their faith, even if their claim otherwise. They drink and fuck around. And then they find some way to rationalize their behavior with their faith. Just like Christians do. And bam, Western Islam is born. And so long as they are demographically the larger portion, they will win out within their minority.

That is why Muslim extremists/conservatives are so freaked out by us. Our mere existence is a challenge to their literally retarded culture, because it is so much more preferable to any sane person.
So long as Mullahs and the like are freaked out by us, we are doing fine. It's when they are confident, when we should be worried. But they aren't and they never will be. Their economic weaknesses alone are reason enough not to worry.

lol yep

Take the arabic-empire that lasted till around the 11th century in portugal. It was one of the most thriving empires, but religious beliefs got in the way of innovation so much that it utterly destroyed and vanished this empire forever. arabic and or muslims belief systems are set to fail

Why would muslims banning people be called islamaphobic?

They are out-inbreeding everyone else.
I'm not kidding, check the statistics.
No need to worry, m8.

I was not implying about hiding weapons, I was thinking more of a "mental" weapon, taking religious freedom could/would/might provide an edge when dealing with muslims, and since the so called "extremists" would want to follow their religious rules they wouldn't come to the country in the first place, it might sound confusing and it is I don't blame you, I'm not very good with words, reading makes me sleepy
Not necessarily, criticism never solved a single problem in the world, I'll give you an example I'm tired of seeing, Youtubers making thousands of videos complaininig about the current youtube ad-apocalypse and everything and it doesn't solve shit, now think if these famous youtuber (with millions of subs ) would leave the platform out of nowhere, sunddenly youtube would crumble, but people are too afraid of that so they don't do it, now going back to Nazi Germany, if the germans/jews who disagreed with the Nazi party would've left the country before, Nazism itself would crumble, this applies to Communism/Socialism and even Captalism, I'm going too meta here so I'll stop before I contradict myself

Because all great systems want to suicide/implode

damn bro >if the germans/jews who disagreed with the Nazi party would've left the country before, Nazism itself would crumble

that's deep

let them in, and rape their women

There are religious districts in each one that are of high interest to muslims. If non-muslims have to get a special visa to see them it is no loss.

Anyhow the new ruler of saudi arabia is about to do away with the super-strict muslim control of his country... he's gonna spank the wahhabis and put them in their place, sucking kuffar dick if they get out of line....

so things be a changing.

Why os western world totally blind about the danger of letting islam in?
In 3 or 4 generations whites people from England or France or Germany (the most politically corrects now) will be enslaved. Yes, ENSLAVED.

Tell me why it would be otherwise when muslims will be the majority in those countries?

Islam in the western world is a cancer that democracy fuels.

And nobody seems to spot that.

I see your one of those neckbeards who never leavers the safety of his basement. See that turban in the picture? That's Sikhism, whole different ball game buddy

If there's anyone from the Netherlands in here they would also know this that muslim girls in the Netherlands are considered one of the sluttiest type of girls here and because of their religious beliefs they mostly only do anal to save their virginity and just like somebody mentioned in the comments its basically like a western islam here, they were the hijab and go to the mosque for their family but irl they smoke weed party have lots of anal sex etc. what ever one love bless

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>And nobody seems to spot that.

Have you considered that it's because that is a dumb notion, totally divorced from reality?

You fell for retarded far-right propaganda, m8.
Same shit, different day.
Pic related.

I can't see if are mocking me or just being sincere, take this qt anyway

>Why is it okay for muslims to ban non-muslims from entering Mecca and Medina

It's not. Who told you it was?

it might be unethical (although more conceited leftists would probably disagree with that). That's still no reason to be unethical too, so your argument doesn't cut it.

Dated a muslim girl once. A lot of the teen/young adult muslims hate wearing the burka and want to show off their hair. Later on, she would begin only wearing the burka around her parents. I got her to slowly realize her beliefs are stupid and islam needs a reform. Her friends easily followed suit. But her dad found out and didnt want me around her anymore, saying I corrupted her. I ran off and told him I fucked her more than he did his wife and goat combined. He started calling the cops and yelled "She's 13 you sick infidel!"
So now I have to wait until she's 18.

100% this

Literally not a race.

>"She's 13 you sick infidel!"
*sigh*
Mohammed's youngest wife was 9, you need better patter mate, this is shitbait.

1) It's a DIFFERENT COUNTRY that has their religion as their society's backbone.

2) Liberals, media, propaganda and bandwagons blowong things out of proportion mainly because they can

3) No one follow a good idea unless a couple hundred thousand people die in one day

4) ?????

5) Profit

Maybe someone would have a answer to this I’ve been asking myself for a while. What would happen if we blew up Mecca? What would the outcry be like and what would happen to the Muslim faith?

It’s because we live in a modern secular society. So you’re basically saying “why don’t we become more like Saudi Arabia” lol. I think it’s funny that the most “American” people are the fastest to throw American values in the toilet You’re a fucking idiot. Gtfo Sup Forums, Alt-right newfag.

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Okay bigot lmao

No, you are saying that I am saying that lol. I only asked why its considered islamophobic when that happens. you on some heavy self fulfilling prophecy. newf4g confirmed

sweet, a true libtard. When Hitler was just an illigal Alien and his thugs attaked people on the streets (like the Antifa today) representatives of all political parties met to dicuss if they should kik him out of Germany, the represenitiv of the (social) democrats said no, because he said it would be "undemocratic". A big success for all Libtardism that day. I dont know what happend to him, i hope he died in a KZ

Also 600k Moslems fought in Wehrmacht and the SS, the number 3 of the SS was a Imam. As Himmler said "The islam and our Ideology are very similar"

Islam is not a race or a religion , it is a ideology.

No, its cancer

>unironic Hitler post.
Come on m8, you can do better than that.

I approve of this.

>state laws vs religious laws

quit being such a stupid racist all the time