Nationalism BTFO

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Yeah, man, down with the borders! We should have a one world government, man.

b8 m8

Nationalism only teaches you to love your own country, not to hate others.

i see it more like
>taking pride in what YOUR country done
this shit is just b8

It's vile Socialism that gives government's power to actually do bad things, aside from just saying things.

Don't trigger me americunt

>liberalism
>teaches you to feel guilty for shit you haven't done and pay for shit you have nothing to do with

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Teaches you to take shit you haven't earned and hate the people who paid for it

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It teaches you to take pride in shit that your people have done for you.

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Socialism
teaches you to take pride taking money that others have worked for
and you have not earned yourself

also OP IS A FAGGOT

Says the straya poster.

How is nationalism teaching to hate?

I met enough people from other countries that live in germany to make me hate them.

And living in a country that actively discourages people from taking pride in our common heritage and history, I believe taking pride in shit I haven't done is far more better for a society than feeling guilty for shit I haven't done like non-proud societies like mine naturally dwell into.

Pic is therefore debunked

>Liberalism
>Teaches you that nationalism sucks and you should feel bad and pay reparations for something that your ancestors made.

>teaches you to hate people you have never met
But I only hate the ones coming over here. I hate chinese, indians arabs niggers and wogs. I dont hate russians, mongols, Nepalese, Kazakhs ect

Of course OP you're right, however these people are not mentally ready for higher or reasonable society to see each other as one. Humans still have a primitive mindset and they don't think with reasons but with feelings, they still believe they are special. The real truth is humanity will go extinct one day like every other life form before us. Human's are just animals with big ego.

I think it's going to come to this, but I hope with whites only.

the nazis were the most nationalistic people in history
99% of them never met a russian or live next to a jew.
same goes for trump supporters. never met a mexican or a muslim, being told who to hate.

Hmmm quite makes one pounder chap

How does this apply to me?

biggest mistake of racist whites is they think every whites are civilized super beings free from evil.

tell me something, were the kids that bullied you when you're in school muslims?

Super liberal cuck friend posted this the other day.

I responded with

>It teaches you to take pride in what others have done for you

And the response I got was

>Interesting. Of the two comments above, one is veteran and one isn't

Some veteran guy was like "THIS IS SO TRU!"

I asked my friend how that was relevant. No response. That means he doesn't want to fight. He's actually really not a friend but someone my other friends are friends with and I just keep pretending anyways.

We have definitions like that too. They're attacking nationalism because guilt-by-association with Nazis. Without thinking about what the word or idea COULD mean. It could just mean a basic love and pride in your country. Of course snide liberal would say "why love my country when it's done bad things and its so horrible" and my response is that you love your kids when you put them in time out don't you? It's that kind of love. It's just the love you have for something that is a part of you.

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youre being told to hate people who you never met.

you are taught people like this are civilized and they're your best friends.
youtube.com/watch?v=t81IEq4FjlI

hmmm...

Who is teaching me this? Every media and education institute teaches the exact opposite.

I agree. It's cringey when stormweenies start talking about their glorious musical geniuses when they can't even play Mary has a little lamb on the link.

People who ar racist are just retarded or some kids from other race attacked them and that's why they think every one is the same.. It's called (retarded logic).

How does nationalism promote hate? How is destroying your culture a good thing?

*on the piano

Don't take pride in your country's achievements!
Oy vey, have you apologised for slavery today?

REDDIT BTFO

World War 2. Japan aggressively expanded in the name of the gorrious emeperah.

is Sup Forums the most computer illiterate board

why the fuck are so many images of such terrible quality

>the nazis were the most nationalistic people in history

No the jews are
That's why they are still here after thousands of years

You create groups which means basically dividing each other and this will generate hate. basic common sense.

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If national pride keeps the dindus out I don't see a reason to get rid of it.

I've meet Mexicans, my brother married one. It's what made me start hating them. I've met Muslims, they wouldn't respect that I was an atheist and kept trying to convert me.

Personal experiences are what make people hate others. I don't buy this liberal bullshit idea that hate just comes out of nowhere.

No white people just realize it's about RATES and PERCENTAGES. No one says whites are infallible. How the fuck do we get white guilt if white people thought they way? Whites blame themselves first and Asians maybe do but the other races don't. It's always someone elses fault with the other races.

b8, but it still has a valid point

I agree you shouldn't take credit for the achievements of your ancestors, and you shouldn't hate people you don't have sufficient reason to hate. However, your government should serve its own people before others, anything else is societal suicide.

If there is only one group in a nation, whats the problem?

>it's another new zealand isn't on the map episode
Not like we've ever done anything apart from being Australia's better looking sibling anyway

We'll never do anything of note either, the lazy attitude and lack of ambition of people in this country is disgusting.

But it doesn't bother you when other races do it I bet.

oh look it's this thread again

Bible says when the one world government is going to represented by a "6" which is the mark of the beast and a symbol of incompletion to the Lord. Bible says we will all fold and join the one world government, and a religion will replace all religions (Islam, probably). The rapture will occur shortly after this.

I hope you're a troll. I can't take people seriously with these questions or just a underage build with anger.

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Ingroup preference has nothing to do with pride. I'm not "proud" to be Bulgarian in a way that I would be proud of achieving something myself, but I want to live among my own people, because that is the culture in which I was born and raised. I don't want foreigners to come here in droves, into the territory that I've inherited from people who fought tooth and nail to preserve it.

Outgroup preference doesn't make for a stable society. It only leaves you open to opportunists who want to conquer you. A society that refuses to defend itself and its values is doomed to be erased from history.

Our aboriginals invented two kinds of stick you fucking nazi. Fuck off.

The idea that "nationalism" is dangerous and hate-fuelled is being pushed by oligarchs to lube people up for a global government.

Any country that resists the idea of having its sovereignty overruled for the sake of "peace" and "the environmnet" will be accused of indulging in "petty nationalism".

I never met nationalists of any other race. I only know about stormweenies from pol. The closet thing is the some of the elderly generation talking about Singapore's economic miracle with a smug look and implying they did it by working hard being thrifty or something, which always annoys me.

>having to make up ad hominems as an argument.

>puts a shill on suicide watch using its own logic
>troll
Wow absolutely ebin.

You're basically retarded congratulation.

I know a mexican and i find all mexican bad... please kill yourself with that retarded statement or just don't breed.

>Malaysia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumiputera_(Malaysia)

Do you have to make up shit to feel smart? What oligarchs? Your democratically elected governments?

China has an oligarch. Saudi Arabia has an oligarch. Most of the world doesn't.

"""you've never met"""

fucking retarded heh

Post some of your favorite nationalist songs

youtu.be/EPFQzTFT824?t=42s

Im loving these obvious proxies desu reddit friends

This whole were one people maaann shit only works if everyone is on board with this idea. When its only white people on board the other groups will devour them.

>whites hate X race because all they see is statistics about them! If they knew one they wouldn't hate them
>user shares anecdotal evidence to fill hole in this logic
>hurr ur a retard :^)
So what's it gonna be user, are stats racist and you must know a minority to have an opinion on them or are all is anecdotal evidence false until you deem it fits your arbitrary requirements?

Take a trip outside of your country then m8. Nationalism exists plenty. Literally any major country's celebratory holiday is filled with nationalism.

Please give me a good reason why nationalism is good for the future of mankind.

1. It allows the government to control the country on the premise of national pride.

Nationalism has been used for centuries as a propaganda tool to manipulate people into buying into the governments agenda. Examples:
-Nationalism was the root of the Nazi campaign in WWII. Hitler convinced an entire nation of people that they had drawn the short stick after WWI, and that they should be reprimanded by any means necessary. (2)
-The Iraq/Iran wars. President Bush used national pride as a tool for invading a poverty stricken otherwise helpless country. America claimed they did it to look for weapons of mass destruction, to keep the nation safe. Nationalism was used to justify the USA's lust for oil.(3)
-Russia. Putin is championing a combination of economic and political nationalism. He's nationalized his country's gas/oil industry and now uses it like a diplomatic bludgeon to bully neighbors into falling into line. He's ordered the murder of dissidents and neighboring leaders. He's bullied the media almost to the point of taking it over outright and muzzled many of the most widely used news sources. (4)

My point is that nationalism is used as a tool for controlling entire nations of people.

Instead of focusing on how to improve ones own country, we should be focused on how to improve humanity as a whole.
Imagine if countries where people. If we put all the people together in one room we have the world. Now what would work better, a group of people who where full of self pride, and distrust towards one and other, or a group of people who took pride in the group they where in?

ATTENTION!!
(Nationalist on suicide watch)

It is good for my people because we will cease to exist without it. Everything else is meaningless.

>Most of the world doesn't have oligarchs
>Rockefeller, Soros, Rothschild don't exist

I lost 50 IQ reading this. Thanks.

>Identity is bad goys
>Oy Vey yes of course someone from Iceland and an abbo are the same, were all humans
>What are you a racist?

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You're stupid.

The first example only has a link to nationalism in the sense that you used the word 'nation' in the same sentence. Germany did draw the short straw, but because of the harsh Treaty of Versailles. Google that.

Similar for 2 and 3. Do some research.

I can't tell if this is b8 or not but this is barely above the level of a 10 year old's logic. Unfortunately you don't get any participation prizes for spewing dumb opinions in the real world user.

Does that put you in the negatives?

>humanity

Well spooked my friend

>not getting the mark

whatever, fagit. enjoy not eating.

>Not feeling guilty for what someone of a largely different ethnic heritage did 200 years ago.
I mean cmon, it's 2016.

>#multiculturalism #islamophobia #refugeeswelcome

>Don't take pride in the good shit they did but you haven't
>but feel bad for all the bad shit they did but you haven't!!11

Not even a christcuck and I'll take my chances in the bush before bowing to a world government

So much text and so little said. Your entire argument basically boils down
>nationalism is bad because it gives the government power
>globalism is good because it gives the government power
Also your entire grasp on Russian politics is completely fucked if you think Putin is power because of nationalism. He's in power because the other candidates are complete wild cards.

Also the computer(or phone) you are typing on along with the internet are products of nationalism but you seem to have omitted that information. Hmmm, you know, omitting information is the same as lying :^)

Love of people you've never met has nothing to do with liberalism.

resirkulerbar renne fitte-hore

I too found Doug Stanhope funny when I was 14 OP.
This, Even if Israel is destroyed it still exists in concept.

Nationalism is the only attitude that will preserve the people and cultures of different regions and countries. Forced multi-culturalism only promotes hate and produces violence on genocide on a massive scale.

>muh humanity

Too bad that only Westerners are taught to have this sentiment. The rest of the world is allowed to be as nationalistic and xenophobic as they get. So it's not going to work. It's a trick to make white people stop acting on their self-interest.

Nationalism thought me that foreigners who escape and loot their countries should not enter another country, since parasites are never a good thing. Either pay tax and fix country where you are or get shot. How would it be if i just walked into a store and not pay for tax, stolen some shit and then taken that stolen goods and put them on shelves of some other store, it's really same thing migrants are doing. Migration is only promoted by international billionaires, who live on the backs of people and their minions who think they are helping the world are only helping themselves and destroying future for everybody, but then it's always those migrant people who ruined everything and created wars and poverty, they are the ones talking about humanity. Humans will some day understand that for this Earth to survive you have to kill the parasite who changes host bodies.

Couldn't we say the same for those that are proud of the achievement of humanity at large?

Lol did our """danish""" friend disappear when the norge started using scandispeak

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Nationalism isn't about hating other people, it's about loving yours. Your people are your greatest blessing, and we should all be glad that we live as one under a single nation. The happiest day of many men's life is when their children are born, but did they give birth to the child? No. But your children are your people, and how could you not love them?

All I and many other Nationalists purpose is that every ethnicity have a right to maintain a majority within its own homeland, based on their historical control of the area, and ethnic prevalence in the region.

Should we not consider what is best for everyone? Why not ensure the end of racism, by dividing all races? This may lead to the rise of Racialism, as some races do better than others, but we should not fight nature. We should embrace the fascism of nature, and use it to make our people stronger. We should respect our ancestors, and protect our descendants.

We can lower crime rates, ensure peace, and give everyone a chance. All people will have their race, and opportunity to make a successful society. All people with have their religion, and ability to proselytize. All people will have a chance to be a part of their own culture, and not be shamed. If this makes me racist, or evil, or a nazi; then so be it. I'd rather be an evil-racist nazi, then betray my own people, and the rights all of humanity has to maintain its own existence.

Yes, that's what i'm saying.

I mean nationalism is just a division that takes a roll as a group similar to people who see each other different. "multi-culturalism" is the same as nationalism because it's divide people into groups which basically means both are not good for the future of a civilized world.

Socialism teaches you to love people you've never met and take pride in shit you'll never do.

>>Nationalism teaches you to take to take pride in shit you haven't done
>Don't be proud of your country, ethnicity, race, your ancestors achievements that bettered humanity overall!
>But you better apologize for slavery, whitey!

These people can't make up their minds.

>Hate people you've never met

Never met? Look where I live m8. I've met enough Arabs and Negroes to pretty much hate 99.9% of them. Save for the few educated ones who don't act like niggers and muslims.

So what is your solution, mighty fence sitter?

actually most of them lived next to jews

>Using pride in the sense of achievement and not in the actual sense in which nationalism uses it: respect for your ancestors who gave their life and used their resources to build towards to future and to build for the next generations of which I am blessed to be a part of
I am the product of their sacrifices. Taking pride in their achievements is giving respect to their efforts, not taking their fame from them, because you know that their achievements were done in part so that you may live comfortably and so that you, as the embodiment of their testament, can build towards the next future. You fucking globalist faggots. A nationalist sees the worth of his culture for it made him who he is today, he therefore will not accept other cultures in his country, but he will realise that his culture works for his country, and is not necessarily the best culture for every country. It follows that there is no inherent hate for other cultures essential to Nationalism. Your first argument is a strawman, your second is simply retarded and had no basis.

hold nu kæft for helvede
tag tilbage til plebbit eller hvor fanden det end er du kommer fra
eller du kunne dræbe dig selv og oge det danske IQ gennemsnit med en god del point

>please just shut the hell
head back to plebbit or wherever the hell it is that you come from
or you could kill yourself and increase the Danish IQ average with a good deal of points

Honestly,seems like a pretty good translation from google

>ITT people have no argument, but spout unrelated things
and yet think they have rebuttled this spesific arguments

You take pride in things you never do, so you want to much with people you are proud of and do good things and contribute as well.You also teach your children the same.Its a self-sustaining mechanism and I think its quite ok.