Your thoughts on communism?

Your thoughts on communism?

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soviet union makes biggest nuclear bomb

honestly

i find it funny

it makes people go full retard and do crazy things

communism doesn't work, collectivism and socialism is definitely the future though.

communism is political theory for intelligent people, the only liberal i kinda respect is John Rawls, and maybe John Gray, the rest is just a bunch of half educated people trying hard to rationalize capitalism

Kill a commie
For your mommie

>collectivism
no
>socialism
"future" maybe but a really remote future with full automation, and it will certainly be called something else

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>intelligent
>bunch of racist science deniers
>intelligent

>communism is political theory for intelligent people
That is literally the dumbest and most pretentious thing I have ever read on the internet. 10/10 if you're trolling

Actually not, could you elaborate?

what?

communism is the worst doctrine ever created

After swearing to give my lif e to end it in the eighties, It dont work. All utopian ideals end up with an abusive controlling class. heck even capitalism is eating itself...

Proudhon was right, property is theft. one day humanity will evolve past such an archaic and primitive concept.

Never go full communism

What gives the collective privilege over the individual? Numbers? Why should I be forced to work my life away to provide for the collective? I never chose to be born, so why should the weight of the collective be put on my shoulders? For future generations? So I may be my "brother's keeper"?

commie nism denies peoples differences so it can work and in order to do that they consider everything is a soshal construct and deem science to be racist therefor they are science deniers among many other things that are completely retarded and the opposite of intelligent

>primitive
you take that "archaic" concept out and then you get primitive

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An equal society is actually a better society for everyone, you seem to be measuring privilege in numbers when saying your well being depends on hoarding money.

I really have no idea what you mean by denying science and "considering everything is a social construct" but im guessing you are confusing communism with social theory or bundling everything you were taught to hate into a single thing

Because communism is a jewish con game. It's a transfer of all the world's wealth, resources, and power into the hands of the jewish leadership under the guise of it being some magnanimous act that's absolutely necessary. All of the pseudo intellectual musings are fancy rationalizations and advertisements aimed at other pseudo intellectuals. It's a ponzi scheme, and an obvious one too. But the average subscriber knows fuck all about history, philosophy, religion, occultism, politics, psychology, biology, so on and so forth. So the people who really support this jewish fuckery are not generally the best and brightest, but a lot of them come from rich families and they wind up having good "connections" and bring about the destruction of civilized society with the shittiest of shit eating grins while patting themselves on the back. There's a reason why jews love purges so much.

social theory is one step to implementing communism, one benefit the other, so communists tend to align with that repeating the same things while sucking marx cock

protip, when you start by saying something is a jew conspiracy you make it pretty clear that you are the dumb fuck that never read a theory book in your whole life

Since everyone is an individual, helping the individual would help everyone. Your approach seems a bit trickle down.

I don't like communism, but Carl Marx was an anti-semite.

All communists should be exterminated.
It is a slave religion that satanic kikes rule over

Can you please answer the questions?
Also, when did I bring up money?

I really hope you are trolling...

sorry user i already did, you should support your fellowmen to have a better life, and if not money i don't know what you mean by privilege

Karl Marx was the son of a rabbi, both of his parents were jewish. Jews pretend to convert to other religions (or join groups) in order to commit evil in the name of that religion or group. Catholicism is a great example. Jews converted by the thousands in order to escape justice. Then what did they do? They became priests and started fucking children and promoting communism.

What gives the collective the right to reap the rewards of the individual's labor? The privilege to oppress the few for the many. What grants them such a privilege?

I will concede that his parents were Jewish, that is true, but he converted later in life and became anti-semitic. Read his writing "on the Jewish question", that encapsulates his views on jews.

I don't know what you mean by individuals labor, we live in a society where more than 90% of the population sells their labour-power so our rewards are already being robed, oppression is the result of cultural and social constructs so it isn't a matter of political regime (provided it doesn't incite it), so i really don't know what your problem with communism is, also communism doesn't promote the extinction of individual liberty, only private property

you are responding to the guy that believes in Jewish conspiracies and that crypto-jews are secretly ruining everything he loves, guy is a fucking nutjob

Are you an orthodox communist, or an anarcho-communist. I think that if we establish that, this conversation would be a lot easier for the both of us. I am an ancap. I believe in the non-aggression principle. I just want to get a feel of where you are on the communist spectrum.

Communism only works in RTS games

Christianity?

communism = theft
i'm agin it

Encourages laziness and discourages innovation.

I'm into Leninism, but living in the world that we live and not having much expectation i settle with Gramsci so i can actually think real politics in a democratic world, don't believe in democracy though

qts

Alright. Lenin is by far my favorite communist leader. He started to reinstate some free markets here and there. Nice to know user. I still think your wrong, but I can respect your opinion.

always nice to debate user, cheers!

Communism doesn't work, sorry communist, Hitler will raise again

You came down to this southern town last summer
To show the folks a brand new way of life
But all you've shown the folks around here is trouble
And you've only added misery to their strife
Your concern is not to help the people
And I'll say again, though it's been often said
Your concern is just to bring discomfort, my friend
And your policy is just a little red
Now, ain't I right
It matters not to you how people suffer
And should they, you'd consider that a gain
You bring a lot of trouble to the town and then you leave
That's part of your Communistic game
I detect a little Communisim
I can see it in the things ya do
Communisim, socialism call it what you like
There's very little difference in the two
Now, ain't I right
Your followers sometimes have been a bearded, hatless bunch
There's even been a minister or two
A priest, a nun, a rabbi and an educated man
Have listened and been taken in by you
Aw, the country's full of two-faced politicians
Who encourage you with words that go like this
Burn your draft card if you like, it's good to disagree
That's a get aquainted Communistic kiss
Now, ain't I right
One politician said it would be nice to send some blood
And help the enemy in Vietnam
That's what he says, here's what I say
Let's just keep the blood
Instead let's send that politician man
Let's rid the country of the politicians,
Who call us tramps, that march out in our streets
Protesting those who wanna fight for freedom, my friend
This kind of leader makes our country weak
Now, ain't I right
Let's look and find the strong and able leaders
It's time we found just how our neighbours stand
If we're to win this war with Communism
Let's fight it here as well as Vietman
Let's rise as one and meet our obligations
So Communistic boots will never trod
Across the fields of freedom that were given to us
With the blessing of our great almighty God
Across the fields of freedom that were given to us
With the blessing of our great almighty God

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tbh you have to be extremely intelligent to really understand communism and get past all the western propaganda

sources??

Fuck everyone excepts me, I don't give a fuck about collectives, I don't give a fuck about women and men, I don't give a fuck about society,... I only care about my 60 years of life, sorry communist annons

Sorry Annon, but Putin is like Hitler but gayer

are you saying putin is a commie because he is russian?

Like Religion, Communism allows the lowest ignorant plebs to feel good about themselves.

Private property is the only evidence of individual liberty. If everyone owns nothing, then they are OWNED!

You forgot to mention the 20 million Ukrainians that Stalin deliberately starved to death.

Everyone thinks of "making people equal" as lowering the highly effective and raising the lowly effective individuals to make everyone nice and slighly above mediocraty. Unfortunatly, theur are far more inconpetent and lazy people than exceptional and industrius, and it is a whole lot easier to kill/hinder the great peopelle than it is to raise up the poor ones. So it's a game of either killing off both the best and worst citizens so you have only mediocre citizens who would do well just to maibtain the state (as Marx himself only forsaw Communism maintaining technology and never advancing it), or you oppress everyone into being poor and starved, and thus equal. Like it or not, people are not equal. Success comes to the few because only the few can or want to achieve it.

north Korea has biggest army

implying an equal society (who defines equal anyways?) is even possible.

socialism/communism - spreading mediocrity and false promises since forever.

Communism looks great on paper but it places too much power in the hands of too few at the top who consolidate power and wealth at the expense of...

oh, wait...

indoctrinated much?

Yeah, Stalin was a murderous asshat.
Didn't say he was jesus did i

in touch with reality much?
read history much?
No? you should.

why don'T you go and live in communist countries since u believe in communism so much, see how it is and has "worked".

A cult presented as "political and economical ideology"

Its defenders rely permanenty on "how could be the things if (REAL they say) communism was enforced" instead of "how have being the things under communism"... replace "communism" with "cult name" and you'll have the idea

really? read much? you just spilled social media propaganda to define communism and now want to pass as educated? the fuck outta here dude, go read a fucking book in you life ant at least try to form an opinion

kek

No communist country ever came anywhere near the USA's performance in consolidating power and wealth at the top, passing laws to suit those very same elite, and legitimizing corruption openly and proudly like citizens united has done, making buying power a hard-wired structural part of the system. Any claims the western world ever had against any other form of government are fucking small potatoes compared to the legitimized corruption of the present US.

Lucky it inherited the wealth of the Old World in two world wars, so it can continue to fund whatever the fuck "financial innovation" it cooks up for a while yet.

which book exactly?
already read Communist Manifesto, and dont give me some shit from Howard Zinn either.

It's not corruption if you legalize it.

Communism... Optional.

Killing capitalist, priceless.

OH the communist manifesto? it must have took what, 30 minutes? its a fucking manifesto my dude not a theory book, try fucking harder if you want to have a fucking opinion on the subject

Communism is shit and the people who want it are poor niggers who don't want to work.

you didnt answer the question, and you will have a hard time convincing an anarcho-capitalist that communism would actually work.

Everyone acts like they hate communism, when in reality they hate the ridiculous stigma attached to it through years of subversive propaganda
Communist theory is the shit

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>when in reality they hate the ridiculous stigma attached to it through years of subversive propaganda
go retard elsewhere

My shadders use more axises to think. And they move.

was that english?

this guy knows it, in therms of political theory nothing beats communism

for ants.

communism is shit because it ignores human self interest in favor of some obscure idea of a collective will.

History and class consciousness
Capital
Wage labor and capital
Prison Notebooks
Capitalism, socialism and democracy
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>be me
>little kid att, also in summer program at local daycare
>every other Wednesday we go to chuck E Cheese's
>three tokens per kid
>bring my own from home one day
>feel like scrooge mcduck
>teacher lady finds out.
>makes me share with everyone
>each kid gets one extra token
>she gives the six left over to her own kid
>experience communism first hand

I fucking hate communism.

Why do you keep making this thread, dipshit? You've gotten your answer over and over.

Communism hasn't become mysteriously more popular since the last time.

you have no idea what you are talking about, there is a bunch of communists that theorize on individuality and even private property, shit is complex user, you may not agree, but from a theoretical perspective is by far the richest and coolest political theory ever created

democracy = tyranny of the majority, collectivism is cancer.
humanity has yet to come up with a better economic system than capitalism, it has stability and doesnt fucking lie to you about equailty.

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A failed experiment.

There are aspects of it that were good, but the autocratic nature of it was its downfall. Every system needs a way to self-correct, or else it will collapse.

capitalism is not an economic system, its a cultural system, hence the capitalization of every aspect of our life, and its destroying each and every value our society ever built. I have a lot of reservations about democracy, especially after reading Schumpeter

oh, but communism is an economic system? hahahaha.

and what exactly has communism built, other than authoritarianism and countries stuck driving '57 Chevys.

it isn't, its a political system and as i have said it before, it has a lot of different economic theories and approaches that range for closed self sufficient industries and market to free market

But than isn't it not communism? Things like this remind me of "stone soup." Other than its name, it's completely different.

you didn't answer the statement about what communism has built.. you prove to me it has has given superior situation versus capitalism and i might listen to the rest of your lulzy propaganda.

>Schumpeter
An emerging useful idiot.

communist conquered the fucking space dude, half the world and, oh, the capitalist world economy in the last 20 years

could you please elaborate whats the problem with Schumpeter theory of democracy?

How has capitalism NOT done that ? Western "democracies" have been turning authoritarian for half a century now.

now i know this is troll.

im not a troll dude, what the fuck?