I've been struggling with nihilism for a while, mostly the pointlessness of everything...

I've been struggling with nihilism for a while, mostly the pointlessness of everything, am I wrong to hold this view or am I just being a faggot who cares to much.

>a faggot who cares to much.

You're not wrong to hold the view that there is no objective meaning to life; anyone who says otherwise is just making shit up. However, nihilism doesn't state that life is pointless, but rather the fact that there is no intrinsic "point" or meaning--we're on our own to determine these things.

While there is no inherent meaning, you should craft your own.

Nihilism is suppose to liberate you from the control of external meaning. If you care too much, you're not struggling with nihilism. If everything is pointless, what is it you care too much about?

Try being more ubermensch and spend less time looking at porn.

If you haven't already, go read Thus Spoke Zarathustra. It was Neitzsche's go at giving nihilism a point to it all

>Try being more ubermensch and spend less time looking at porn.
Funny advice on board made up mostly from porn threads.

Your probably right
Also right, I'm just struggling to make it as I go.

I've been mean to read Zarathustra, but I've been to busy with college bullshit

Nihilism is the first step towards becoming a fully developed individual. Embrace it and don't rely on the structures of the world or the illusory nature of the senses. Allowing yourself to level on the level of nihilistic acceptance will free you of guilt and existential fear, and will make life beautiful and constantly present.

I hope so

Drink more

I suppose due to my semi-religious up bringing and the combination of the novice sense of pointlessness and indifference that makes life seem empty to me, I guess that the problem I have.

Way ahead of you

Maybe I'm think to much about it.

Nihilism is the closest thing to "truth" we'll ever get, but here's the thing: Most people don't understand the negation of meaning.

The typical response is "nothing matter so I'll do whatever you want", but that assume as system of meaning wherein we're restrained by values and therefore are liberated when the are removed.

But the notion that we should strive to be free is also also a system of meaning and values no different than Christianity.

Honestly, don't go down the road because there's nothing there. And most people have no conception of what that means. The first reaction is "if there is no morality and we're all puppets then why should anyone go to prison!?" but again that assumes a world where there *is* morality, which dictates that you shouldn't go to prison because you aren't responsible. But that's thinking within a system of values.

There's is no liberation in nihilism only despair. That's what Nietzsche tried to warn us about but nobody really gets what he's saying until it's too late. That whole "And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." is quoted by moody teenagers who have no clue what Nietzsche is really warning about. Once you really go down that road you know, and it's too late.

My solution is to combine excessive hard work with drinking/drugs. Honestly working does a better job of distracting the mind. And then when you have a break try to obliterate yourself as fast as possible.

Hedonism on it's own has been the solution to nihilism for millennia, but it's been proved over and over again to be a failed solution.

Working has the added benefit that you end up fairly successful, but of course that quickly becomes irrelevant (and in fact may worse the situation over time as you realize that even success with give you no way out). Still it means you can drink better booze.

There's always suicide, but I think you'll quickly find that biology fights that pretty hard. Most successful suicides are actually done in the pursuit of meaning. One final act to "show everyone" or to "end the pain" but once you realize suicide accomplishes neither of these and it's biologically wired that to be hard, you'll have a harder time.

That make sense, but if this "truth" only brings despair are we just to avoid it or embrace it anyway.

Freddy wasn't a nihilist, OP.

I've been drinking and smoking pot, was thinking about trying LSD (if I could get my hands on the real stuff) or shrooms

That's the irony of the whole thing though, nihilism is usually the accidental end of the road of romanticism. Keats' "Beauty Truth and Truth Beauty" followed to it's conclusion leads to Shelley's "Lift not the painted veil that those who life call life"

Avoid it, embrace it, you really can't do either. If you need a read Cioran is probably the best option in the "embrace it" camp. No other authors touch the despair of nihilism as well as he does.

Here's a quote of his for you:
"The man who has not given himself up to the pleasures of anguish, who has not savored in his mind the dangers of his own extinction nor relished such cruel and sweet annihilations, will never be cured of the obsession with death: he will be tormented by it, for he will have resisted it; while the man, habituated to a discipline of horror, meditating upon his own carrion, has deliberately reduced himself to ashes--that man will look toward death's past, and he himself will be merely a resurrected being who can no lover live. His "method" will have cured him of both life and death"

See that what I figured based on what little I have read by him, this also confirmed that for me, but he's become the face of nihilism despite it

You can be a nihilist and be happy. Once you realize nothing really matters only then let go and be happy.

look into cosmic nihilism my dude

Thanks for the suggestion when I have time I'll look into Cioran.

I know I can be happy I just need to find what makes me so, and by any chance does cosmic nihilism have and relation to HP Lovecraft's idea of cosmicism.

Nietzsche wasnt complaining about how life is pointless. He was trying to tell people who are despondent and think that way to MAKE a purpose for yourself. He was warning people to not fall into the same pit he fell into.

People are fucking stupid to think he was preaching the idea of laying around and do nothing all day. It's a cautionary philosophy.

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For the record I was saying you were stupid, but everytime I bring up Nietzsche with people thats their immediate mindset. People can't seem to grasp broader ideas to things.

I wasn't saying** lmao

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Wrong thread, motherfucker.

I didn't take as such, besides I prefer to be corrected when wrong then left ignorant of the truth.

No?