How would you make the Dune franchise big?

How would you make the Dune franchise big?

>It's like Game of Thrones, but in space!

Spoiling it to the production is the only way.

Star Wars-ize it

Make normified Dune movie, merchandize the fuck out of it, create sequels

Book reader here.
You'd have to take HUGE liberties with the source material. The first book has a lot of action and adventure elements in it. The rest do not.
I can guarantee that the modern movie/TV audience would eat up the Brian Herbert stuff.

Agreed. The first book requires only minor normifying but the others are basically unfilmable. The McDune books would probably go over very well lel

need some gleaming sword and masked villian

Maybe some books should just stay books

Is the Dune Universe too weird and unrelateable for mainstream appeal?

But Dune is fucking awesome

This. Basically do what Verhoven did with Starship Troopers in take key elements fro the books then package it in a pill thats easier for a lowest common denominator audience to swallow.

if you take the climatic moments that Herbert refuses to flesh out and focuse on them you could get something really close to SW

>Book reader here.
wow, incredible

can I get an autograph?

No, just boring. People think God Empeoro of Dune is some whacky book because it has a giant worm with a human face on the cover. It's not whacky at all. It's Leto II spouting philosophy at Duncan Idaho #1000.

Probably

>islamic references all over the place
>no SJW appeal
>manly
>actual depth
>God Emperor looks like a penis
>no ayyyyys
>lots of talking scenes

>The first book has a lot of action and adventure elements in it.

Because it's in-universe propaganda written to let the waterfat plebs that Muad'dib is the greatest.

>I can guarantee that the modern movie/TV audience would eat up the Brian Herbert stuff.

Yeah, that shit is already written like cheesy SyFy scripts.

It's just too big and inner-dialog dependent.

Also, a white teenager falling in with desert people with a quasi-Islamic religion and becoming their prophet isn't very appropriate for the times.

Cast Jennifer Lawrence as Paul's Fremen wife

Is Lynch's Dune movie worth watching? I've never read any of the books but I want to at some point.

It's pretty wacky in places. It has lesbian army that is sexually obsessed over the phallic God-Emperor. A lot of the stuff he says is pretty funny too, like all armies being gay as fuck.

>Because it's in-universe propaganda
It clearly isn't, the epigraphs are but the book itself tells way too much.

>self conscious about never reading
You might want to pick it up before you turn 18

It's shit outside of providing some nice visuals. Read the books

I watched the movie first and it did help with giving a "look" to the dune world in my mind. Outside of that it's just boring

The point is that announcing your presence as a "book reader" is incredibly asinine. HEY EVERYONE I'M A WATER DRINKER HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING TODAY

I haven't read the books but the movie is very atmospheric.
Not really all that engaging though.

>It clearly isn't

The document itself is referred to in Children of Dune.

>Yeah, that shit is already written like cheesy SyFy scripts.

Go look at the book spines. All of them have the SyFy logo and say 'Syfy Essential Reading.'

I'm sure it seems that way when you project your shit all over it

Who else remembers the climactic battle scene that Frank Herbert decided to skip?

I watched this film many years ago, but don't remember its plot and what these characters struggle for.
It needs a clear cut goal or clear-something.

>water drinker

Found the faggot that has never lived on Arrakis

wich one of all?

>A lot of the stuff he says is pretty funny too, like all armies being gay as fuck.

That stuff would not make it in, especially when you know the background of it. Frank was pointing out that most studies of gay men show that they have violent tendencies and are into anal for the fact that it inflicts pain on others.

That's because Star Wars was largely based off of the Dune Series
We all know isn't just the Flash Gordon comics Lucas

I'm pretty sure you are confusing the actual book Dune with fictional in-universe books about Muad'Dib written by Irulan. Dune describes Paul as often weak and doubting, struggling with stopping the Jihad and then realizing he can't. Like he says in the scene with Sardaukars, "There will be tales that I've killed dozens of them by my hand today and I haven't even unsheathed the knife", or something to that effect.

Writing battle scenes is harder in literature

Vladimir Harkonnen is /ourguy/

Herbert literally has a Ra-Ra-get-ready-for-battle-scene, that's probably about ten pages long, where all of Miles Teg's soldiers come out of retirement for fight for him once again.

Then, suddenly, they are on the fucking no-ship headed towards Arrakis

With that all said, Heretics of Dune would make a good film if you included this battle scene

A bizarre, dystopian, high budget God Emperor movie that closely followed the book would be cool, but literally no chance of that.

A psychopathic obese pedophiliac faggot?
Try /cm/

The first book also had the Spice Raid on Giedi Prime that just happens offscreen

Dune fucking sucks. It's not cool. Let the books stay in the 60s where they belong.

>You will never take over the mind of the woman who killed you and use her political clout to almost destroy and empire while at the same time taking all the young men penises in the vagina you wish you had had.

>dune sucks

Why?

God Emperor is easily the best book in the entire series
Would love to see a slowed-down, depressing motion-picture of Hwi Noree following off into the Idaho River, clutching at her worm-love - but only finding empty air

Because it's not cool. Science fiction, above all, even above being thought-provoking, should be cool.

Pull Jodoroski out of the muesem and give him an unlimited budget

not to mention the climatic battle at the end of Dune, between the Emperor-fanatic army of the Sardukars and the united people of the Fremen, now trained by their Prophet leader in secret martial arts unkown to most. All while the biggest sandstorm ever seen in Arrakis is unleashing upon them. with sandworms destroying ships and shit.
and all you get is two parragraphs that reduce it all to "and all was well for Paul & friends"

>Implying Dune isn't cool

>he still brags about being able to read after the 4th grade

How is Dune not cool?

>follows extraordinary people
>shows how humans can become gods
>immersive world
>epic in the truest sense of the word

The only downside is that it lacks aliums, but that can always be fixed

all the more reason to not have a movie.

Give it to James Cameron

dune sequels when?

By seizing the means of production.

>tfw you will never lust after your brother who is slowly but surely becoming a sandworm

1st part of the book
>intrigue
>politics
>worldbuilding
>conspiracy
>interesting

2nd part
>Fremen dicksucking
>OMG, Fremen are so good at everything they do
>I have to be the Messiah but I don't want the Jihad
>damn I can't stop preparing for the the Jihad
>ok, I Jihad now
>boring

Give it to Jonathan Nolan. He's the only one that can balance pretence with entertainment.

Jodoroski's dune was going to be dogshit and you know it

Underrated post

Make Dune toys

Why does everything have to be a fucking franchise? What happened to making a movie and then giving it sequels if it was successful?

Dune is already a franchise because of all the books it's had.

I agree.

I've only read the first book, what the fuck is this thing supposed to be?

Guild Navigator.

They are the guild steersmen that nobody has ever seen until Messiah. Paul speculates about them being mutated in the first book, and it turns out they are.

What in the world, I thought guild navigators were just humans that used shit loads of spice to navigate space

If you're interested in "climactic battle scenes" maybe just stick to reading Kevin J Anderson's Star Wars novels.

>nobody has ever seen until Messiah
The Guild representatives in the culmination of Dune, the one that Paul orders to send the fleet away from Arrakis, are Navigators.

In the movie, they're huge mutant fishes. Supposedly Herbert actually liked it.

>just humans that used shit loads of spice to navigate space

Yeah, they are. That's what happens when you consume shitloads of spice.

Those guys weren't the mutated guildsmen floating in fishtanks. Supposedly, nobody outside of the guild knew what the mutated steersman looked like at that point.

They weren't mutated because heavy mutations were something the movie came up with on its own. Here, let me quote the book:

"Oh, yes," Paul said, "I almost forgot about them." He searched through the Emperor's suite until he saw the faces of the two Guildsmen, spoke aside to Gurney. "Are those the Guild agents, Gurney, the two fat ones dressed in gray over there?"

"Yes, m'Lord."

"You two," Paul said, pointing. "Get out of there immediately and dispatch messages that will get that fleet on its way home. After this, you'll ask my permission before - "

"The Guild doesn't take your orders!" the taller of the two barked. He and his companion pushed through to the barrier lances, which were raised at a nod from Paul. The two men stepped out and the taller leveled an arm at Paul, said: "You may very well be under embargo for your - "

"If I hear any more nonsense from either of you," Paul said, "I'll give the order that'll destroy all spice production on Arrakis . . . forever."

"Are you mad?" the tall Guildsman demanded. He fell back half a step.

"You grant that I have the power to do this thing, then?" Paul asked.

The Guildsman seemed to stare into space for a moment, then: "Yes, you could do it, but you must not."

"Ah-h-h," Paul said and nodded to himself. "Guild navigators, both of you, eh?"

"Yes!"

By giving it to HBO to give it the WW/GoT treatment

>I thought guild navigators were just humans that used shit loads of spice to navigate space

They are, while in a tank, receiving a constant dose of spice, at the point of being physically mutated by it.

I mean, a quisatz haderach gets prescience and the ability to "see" into both sides of his genetic lineage with just a tiny amount of the water of life.

A navigator needs to be able to navigate huge spaceships across galaxies using prescience so that they don't end up in a sun or in the middle of a planet. To do this, they need far greater prescience than Paul or Leto II are capable of.

>They are
Read the above paragraph I quoted, they absolutely aren't.

>They weren't mutated because heavy mutations were something the movie came up with on its own.

No, it's pulled from Messiah. The first chapter describes pretty much exactly what we see in the movie.
It's not until... I think it was in Heretics you find out their lifecycle. You are pretty much bred to be a navigator.

weren't they doing that with Foundation?

Hm right, Edric is more fishy.

>They weren't mutated because heavy mutations were something the movie came up with
From Dune messiah: Edric swam in a container of orange gas... an elongated figure, vaguely humanoid with finned feet and hugely fanned membranous hands — a fish in a strange sea.

>"Are those the Guild agents, Gurney"
From Dune: "Not even their agents ever see a Guildsman. The Guild's as jealous of its privacy as it is of its monopoly. Don't do anything to endanger our shipping privileges, Paul."
"Do you think they hide because they've mutated and don't look... human anymore?"