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Just started watching this.
Fuck its hard going - I hate literally every character and Janeway might actually be insane.

Does it ever get any better?

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Yes. It turns out every character on the show is insane.

would it be possible to edit the show in such a way so as to make Janeway look more like Colonel Kiurtz from Apocalypse Now?

later on they add a T&A character that is nice to ogle at, but no it doesn't get better

>Computer, create an exact duplicate of Counselor Troi's posterior, based on her latest body scans and enlarge so it completely covers the rear wall of the Holodeck.
>Computer, detect any recent flatulence from Counselor Troi and provide me with precise olfactory and audial perimeters.
>Computer, have the anus emanate said flatulence every 1.5 seconds.
>Computer, send "Barclay Suicide Note, Revision 5" to every senior officer's comm system.
>Computer run simulation and disengage safety protocols

> be quark
> have a ferengi hardon for dax
> ban everyone else from using the holodeck, creating a perfect simulation of ds9 only in this version dax walks around bottomless and is always dtf
> live there forever

Its what I wouldve done

If you appreciate opera then you'll like it.

Sup Forums has no taste that is why they call voyager bad

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> be garak
> have a cardassian hardon for bashir
> ban everyone else from using the holodeck, creating a perfect simulation of ds9 only in this version bashir walks around bottomless and is always dtf
> live there forever

Its what I wouldve done

>Does it ever get any better

Yes, when they introduce Seven of Nine.

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Voyager gets a lot of hate but I like it for what it is: A TNG era crew in a TOS style series. If this series was exactly the same but done in a 60's style people would fucking love it.

>Cockmonger

Now there is a blast from the past

nope it doesn't, and Janeway is insane, at least that's how Kate Mulgrew interpreted her and decided to portray her.

>Does it ever get any better?

No, no it really doesn't. Go watch DS9 instead.

>Does it ever get any better?
Not really. The quality is about the same throughout. The Doctor gets more screen time though, and he's the best character.

Is DS9 the best Star Trek?

Its weird that every single character is so completely unlikeable. They're irredeemable

> janeway - insane and incompetent, completely inconsistent
> chakotay - boring and "spiritual" when it suits him
> tuvok - exhaustitively dull
> 7 - tits and ass with nothing else
> Paris - that winey cunt in school who bragged about "banging bitches" when you knew he hadn't even hit puberty yet
> FUCKING NEELIX

Guess its DS9 reruns form me

When they have good episodes it's really great but they have to many shit episodes in between the good ones that's just not worth it imo.

>The show that spends an entire episode jerking itself off about how wonderfully politically correct it is compared to 40 years ago

I mean it's good (re-watching it this very moment in fact, loading in the next disc) but a lot of people pretend like its flaws are not there.

Some of them had their moments where I kind of liked them but then reverted back to being unlikable.

Fucking Paris and B'elana are shit-tier characters though, even Neelix started to grow on me more than them.

and the one normal and not insane character gets shit on over and over. I can't help wonder who got it worse, Chief O'brien or Harry Kim.

Not the same guy you're replying to but I agree with you.

Quite literally the best ST show desu.

Harry Kim for sure.

>When you get fucked over so much you die and get replaced by a duplicate

Well the same thing happened to O'brien, except his duplicate was him just a few hours into the future.

kek, I forgot about that one.

I don't know, remember the ep when Obrien spent 40 years in prison and murdered his cellmate then had to go back to his frigid wife who insisted he "get over it" in like a week?

>Harry Kim for sure.

We all accept it's flaws, but when you compare all of them, the flaws in DS9 don't seem as terrible and it still had more good episodes than bad ones.

He should've left Keiko for qtπ Cardassian engineer.

As always Op is a faggot.

Why do Cardassians have the cutest girls in Trek? Are they like Israel and use attractive females in their military as propaganda?

>and Janeway might actually be insane.

That was actually Mulgrew's intent, she played her as a person on the edge of a breakdown. It was about all the emotion she could get away with under Berman.

>Voyager characters are insane
>DS9 is so much better!
>It's not like O'Brien thought stranding his daughter on an uninhabited planet by herself was preferable to giving her the best support the Federation can muster
>It's not like Bashir fucked a patient
>It's not like Sisko poisoned a planet to human colonists, forcing an entire colony worth of people to abandon their homes, just to catch one man
>It's not like Kira didn't go out of her way to be a self righteous zealot, jumping back and forth like a ping-pong ball about her forgiveness of a Cardassian commander
>It's not like Quark literally got a sex change operation to woo a Ferengi magnate and convince him of enacting new policies he himself was strongly against
>It's not like the entire Federation didn't devolve into psychopaths during the series

I like DS9. I really do.
But god damn that hypocrisy.

>It's not like Bashir fucked a patient

Don't hate this mans game. He got Ezri Dax and a former Obsidian Order agent licking his perfect genetically engineered nuts.

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Garbage diversity peddling shit show.

rolll

Paris and the Doctor are the only viable options you have.

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

If you want a thread to hate on gleep-glops instead of fantasizing about cross-species miscegenation go back to Sup Forums. Xenos are for loving, not exterminatus.

are double dubs on par with trips or quads?

Voyager is supreme next level comfy for me. It was the first boxset I ever bought. I haven't watched the boxset in ages but whenever its on TV I'll always watch it.

I fucking love neelix. No joke. Favorite character behind the doctor.

2 pair is below 3 of a kind, which is below 4 of a kind. It's poker rules without royals, basically.

well, it's dubsman then

>Xenos are for loving, not exterminatus.
youtube.com/watch?v=LEV_0VqZTXE

No it doesn't. It's like giligan's island where you know they wont find a solution to go home or else the show would be over. Everyone on the show is so fucking dull they had to introduce tits and ass character to keep people interested. I have no idea how that show stayed on the air for so long.

Watch the original serie, it's better ;)

>Update
This is why TOS is better than anything reads like watching a porn flick

>It's a Captain Proton episode

>Picard doing any sort of defense/offense plan

How many times did Worf get told to not raise shields or load weapons array when meeting a hostile creature?

Picard: Oh look a thoughtless crystal entity that devours worlds. Lets reason with it. Oh look it doesn't reason. Well lets try and reason it some more. Hmmm doesn't seem to be very reasonable. Alright more reasoning! Still wont' reason.

Worf: Captain can we blow it up now?

Picard: No, no. Lets reason with it some more. Actually no i have a better idea. Lets blow it up now, but lets all be very clear that I have the moral high ground here.

Worf: ...

>i never thought id be so happy to have you paying so much attention to my junk, bones

10/10

To be fair it's the only way to rationalize the wildly inconsistent way they wrote the character

If you already hate it this much you probably should fuck off. At this point, years after its ended, the Voyager fans don't want someone so negative in their fandom.

wrong show fucktard

>It's an Oirish village episode
Literally the worst purpose a holodeck has ever been used for

>the Voyager fan doesn't want someone so negative in the fandom.

Fix'd

>It's a Troi episode

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I dropped $200 dollars on the box set. Completely worth it

tuvixxx is a G

watching that episode now, and there's nothing wrong with this episode. Its fun seeing all the alien characters playing humans, and it's not portraying the 50's as any more racist than it actually was. Of coarse it would trigger Sup Forums

>Deep Space Nine is literally the pioneer of racial acceptance, and the single most important work. Everyone but dirty racists agree, even the gods

there is atleast two episodes where the entire crew dies a painful death, the actual crew not a hologram or a dream that is.

i hope that helps.

The plots are good the characters are awful. Except at the beginning. The whole keyson story arc is pants.

>Hey you know how Star Trek constantly deals with racism allegories? Well I had this idea for a story set in the 1950's..........
>the 50s weren't racist, s-s-stop being so PC, this episode proves DS9 is terrible!

Nah, I can't decide whether Voyager or Enterprise is the worst Trek. Voyager just never puts itself together.

Watch Babylon 5 instead, it's a better DS9.

DS9 not only loves diversity in race but the best character on the show just happens to be a homosexual.

It's not gay to want Bashir, even the straightest O'brien falls for him.

When 7 of 9 joins it sort of improves, kind of.

>Implying
There's a difference between making an episode/show that promotes the abolishment of racism and/or acknowledges the horrors of the past.

Making an episode in which the literal Gods decide to send the main character into a coma for literally no reason but to remind him how fantastic the show he is in compared to those horrors is a something else.

It's the difference between sending clothes to Africa, and sending clothes to Africa with huge self congratulatory adverts all over them to make sure everyone knows YOU are the one who gave them clothes even if making non-momo coloured clothes is more expensive and so means you can't afford to send as many as you could've if you just sent them clothes instead of jacking yourself off in the process.

O'Brien would never cheat on Cakehole. He is too bitch whipped.

Yellow, and green.

C'mon son
Tuvok made that show watchable
When he was good, he was spot-on

Tuvok is great

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´No. I mean yes a little bit but not enough to be worth it.

>Black vulcan

I read this post then laughed.

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It gets pretty cool sometimes. It's at least as boring as Staaar Trek TheNextGeneration but without movies.

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Guaranteed best TOS:
>Spock episodes
>Spock & Bones episodes

Guaranteed best TNG:
>Picard episodes
>Data episodes
>Worf episodes

Guaranteed best DS9:
>Bashir & O'Brien episodes
>Bashir & Garak episodes
>Odo & Quark episodes
>Garak episodes
>Dukat episodes
>Damar episodes
>Weyoun episodes

Guaranteed best VOY:
>7 of 9 episodes
>Doctor episodes

Guaranteed best ENT:
>Archer & Shran episodes
>Phlox episodes

>Phlox episodes
>Dear Doctor
>A Night In Sickbay
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