Most anti-establishment rebellious artist/style/genre/band currently

Most anti-establishment rebellious artist/style/genre/band currently

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>anti-establishment

Anti *what* establishment? Oh - you mean the progressive neoliberal globalist one?

There is simply no rebellion like your old Gen X notion anymore. That became impossible when the progressive academic and journalist party line became indistinguishable and insaperable from the corporate establishment.

But yeah, keep nursing your old dead fantasies. It's dead, you're dead.

*inseperable

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It's sad. I remember when so-called leftists in the late 90s / early 00s (back when I was a hardcore leftist working environmentalist jobs) were anti corporate and anti globalist.

But then it got all focused on representation on television and YASSS QUEEN and twitter virtue signalling and completely forgot about environmentalism and the big corporate problem.

So alas no more politics for me.

All the artists that stay away from politics nowadays are deemed rebellious for not picking any of the available sides.

Centrism is the new punk. Funny how it works huh?

Basically this. The most effectively edgy sensation given off is by bands / artists that seem to have kind of a political ambiguity, like they don't care, like maybe they're supposedly kinda left-leaning or whatever but then operate in this fucked up nether zone that seems could easily step on and contradict the sensibilities of leftism.

Aka Death Grips, Swans, Ariel Pink, etc.

Being politically ambiguous or displaying qualities that could simultaneously be of either side feels the most next-level at the moment.

Serious answer? White nationalist punk, folk, electronic, etc. Which artists just got wiped from Spotify en mass? White nationalist artists.

>like maybe they're supposedly kinda left-leaning
That alone automatically makes them non-punk.

that's not what this thread is about though

ideological rebellion/allegiance is meaningless anyway

>he progressive academic and journalist party line became indistinguishable and insaperable from the corporate establishment
The old anti-establishment folks becoming the establishment doesn't mean there's no anti-establishment. It just means the anti-establihment folks are whoever is opposing that new establishment, which is why this is the answer.

... and which is also why the left is experiencing a massive identiy crisis and the far right is newly ascendant in the west.

By 'supposedly left-leaning' I just mean that if you really want to know their general view it's something like 'everyone be good to each other' which the left think they have a monopoly on even though they obviously spend all day demonizing certain groups themselves.

But actually I mean that I read your Death Grips, Swans and Ariels as more centrist-ish, compared to the general tone and tenor and philosophy of leftism as it is today.

lil pump

You could say rappers are still anti-establishment sometimes in that they are poor thugs who actually think and live outside of the rules of normalized middle class polite society (aka they beat and rape women without compunction), yet get away with it because cultured leftist nerds want to still be rebellious and "down with it" so they listen to woman-beating rapist music.

Id say grime but every big name in the grime scene sold out and endoresed that socalist prick.

someone explain why leaning left is bad just curious

By older standards I lean left to say the least.

As in I'm uncompromisingly environmentalist, believe in free healthcare and education / college etc... obviously believe in some healthy degree of what might be called 'socialist' policies.

But then there's what the left is today, which is just immature toxicity and hypocrisy running out of control and not even with any chaotic charm but rather with the lecturing tone of a moralizing school marm.

Also, leftism is just inconsistent, so committed to some idea of what 'being a leftist' is supposed to be, as if that has any meaning in itself, that it will actively, vocally hate Christianity and Christians, constantly smugly trashing them, but then get all lovey and apologetic for Islam.

Whereas if you just drop political alliances, you're free to think "hey, if they can hate Christians, who are pretty innocuous and even generally pretty great, I think it's pretty reasonable to hate Islam which has absolutely ZERO good qualities and perpetuates everything actually bad that the left supposedly claim to oppose."

Like, leftists have this weird pathology where they are 'feminist' but then don't respect women who don't agree with them, saying those women are 'brainwashed' (like women can't think for themselves). And then these supposed 'feminists' support, say, black thug culture which is basically the very image of a 'rape (and wifebeating) culture' they always complain about existing. Or more perversely go on about how peaceful and beautiful Islam is when Islam is literally a fucking rape / grope / murder culture.

Yeah I still rather be aligned with the left because I cant stand racism, social hierarchy, consumerism and conservatism.

>align with the left because can't stand social hierarchy
user... progressive politics are entirely about establishing strict social hierarchies - white bad, black good, man bade, woman good, straight bad, LGBTBBQ good, etc. Just look at the issues they care about. It's all about calling people out, publicly shaming them, trying to get them fired, banned from speaking, etc., for offending their idealized social order.

That's only extremists I think
Extremes in politics are always catastrophic

I believe it is an attempt at achieving equality and dismantling class and privilege. Those groups you mentioned are minorities. I dont think there is anything wrong with being white but the is loads of things wrong with white history (colonisation, exploitation etc). I fell like members apart of the left just try to achieve equality in an obnoxious way which is sad but not as bad as racism and ignoring environmental issues in my opinion.

green day
eminem

someone should just start a new political movement that ignores the bullshit on both sides and seeks the greater good without the obnoxious and extreme parts

What are some bands that trigger both the alt-left and the nu-right ?

yes that is what we need

There are loads of things wrong in the history of any racial group. Who do you think sold the Africans to the slave traders? Other Africans, who kidnapped them and sold them. Who do you think bought the slaves and shipped them over to the US and Europe? Jews mostly. If you want to punish people for the crimes in their racial past you are the racist, and you're going to have to punish literally everyone.

Why Big Oil Conquered The World
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Do it yourself. Here are the blueprints.

Very good doc.

This is the first part for anyone interested: youtube.com/watch?v=ySnk-f2ThpE

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death grips desu

didn't the sex pistols get famous because they were pushed by some hyper rich fashion designer that makes jackets that cost like $25,000?

is britsh punk the most faggy shit in the entire world?

Anarcho-Primitivist Industrial/Neofolk
>Swans and Death grips aren't obviously left leaning
The interview where Zach talks big about progressivism and Gira's entire lyrical career don't mean much to you, do they?
I'm sure Gira will come out as an evangelical Christian any day now, and Ride will burn his art degree while chanting "All lives matter."
White rappers

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not if you include crass...

being right wing solely to be inflammatory is the edgiest thing you can do right now

>that VOID tag

>neoliberalism is leftism

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