Is premarital sex degenerate?
Is premarital sex degenerate?
Samuel Campbell
Tyler Davis
The christianity thread is that way
Levi Baker
only if you're a woman
Owen Richardson
No it's degenerate for everyone, and this idea that a man is immune from the commands of the Bible is hypocritical and just going to make women act degenerate. Men are leaders, if you don't want a degenerate wife you have to be an example for women.
Dylan Long
Yes.
Carson Myers
Yes.
Isaac Ramirez
ill say "yes" so being a wizard won't feel so bad.
Anthony Wright
post marital sex is degenerate too, "having sex" can implying not trying to have babies which is degenerate.
The right word is procreation.
Jose Wright
Christianity is degenerate
>ooh I was a niggerloving drug-addicted slut in the past but I can just forget it all by "repenting"
>heh now I can find a nice christian beta provider since I'm so pure
Literally the only people who convert to Christianity in the current year are worthless whores who are past their prime and need a reason to live
Jordan Young
fucc, and I thought I was baiting :^)
Austin Moore
Yes
Caleb Allen
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Jeremiah Miller
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Aiden Garcia
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Ian Wilson
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Lucas Ross
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Blake Sanchez
Of corse it is.
Jeremiah Flores
...
Daniel Torres
>but muh Cheerios
Juan Barnes
Is there even a slight chance you could be having a child without the unconditional and eternal support of your biological spouse and his/her family?
If so, Yes.
Lucas Myers
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Camden Hill
Yes it's important for us to forgive, remember Jesus forgave a prostitute and said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" I doubt any of us are perfect and free of sin no matter how hard we try.
But in your case you mentioned, someone like this needs to prove their devotion to Christ, you can't just say one day you're a Christian and not follow the commands that are given to us, which is what most people do.
Logan Roberts
Yes.
1) it puts pressure on men to fuck women before marriage, and if you don't then you are considered a "loser who can't get any." Maybe I just am not attracted to sluts who fuck men before they're married?
2) it makes women become more degenerate, thus reducing the pool of marriage material
3) it results in out-of-wedlock babies who get tossed from one non-committed father figure to the next, and they become the next generation of degenerates
Samuel Barnes
m.youtube.com
>people who will deny their inferiority
m.youtube.com
Aiden Jenkins
M-Molyneux?
Nathaniel Brooks
Aren't clean hookers $30 in the Philippines?
Alexander Jackson
I honestly don't know.
I've never had sex with someone I didn't love. I'm 24 and I've only been 2 people including my current gf. She's at about the same level as me.
It honestly doesn't feel wrong. I know I love her and there's a pretty good chance were gonna get married. Gonna sound hippy as Fuck but honestly as long as you love that person and it's in the context of a lasting relationship I don't necessarily think it's "wrong" but it may be unwise.
I'm a Christian but I really don't know how the bible Justifies or clarifies what exactly sexual immorality is.
The OT says not to have premarital sex on the basis that virgins were worth more to the bride's father when she was betrothed. You could have sex with as many slaves as you wanted though.
The NT changes things up a bit but again the wording is vague, pornea and adultery (cheating).
Obviously you don't wanna go full blown degenerate like the European proddys in sweden but the Catholic stance on sexuality will make you Fucking neurotic.
They keep changing their goal post. At first it was procreation and unity only and then NFP got approved. NFP has the same exact goal as non abortifacent contraception and if actually done right is more effective than condoms. They have the same goal, prevent pregnancy. It is just unitive on that case. If you use condoms or NFP there is still the chance of pregnancy so I don't see the problem. A vast majority of fertilized eggs never implant in the uterus anyways. The whole argument from nature falls flat.
That being said, porn, particularly the the professional stuff is top tier degeneracy. Sex is supposed to be intimate not exploitative.
Mason Ross
Yes, but I do it anyways. On woman 20 now and have yet to meet a girl who is housewife material. They're all whores thus far, every last one of 'em; no matter what they say up front, they always fuck the first time I hang with them. Every. Single. Time.
Jaxson Barnes
As in does it lead to the degeneration of society or it's values? No. "People should only fuck when they are married" is a value held only by a minority of people, and therefore it is already accepted social behavior. Calling pre-marital sex degenerate to our society is meaningless because our society cannot exist without sex outside of marriage. It has always been there and will always be there. It's like calling lying degenerate. You might not like it but it's pointless to call it a detriment to society.
Oliver Allen
You're going about this all wrong. Men are made to control women, in the absence of a VERY present father you're going to have a hard time finding one who won't fuck if you convey interest. YOU need to be more responsible. But also find a virgin.
Gabriel Powell
People say about conservatives that they're anti-sex and they just don't want people to "have fun," but the truth is their own shitty sexual ethic has created incredible evil and unhappiness in the world.
Gabriel Rodriguez
>Target whores
>End up with whore
Go figure
Hudson Miller
You're a lost cause, 20 women? That's an insane amount, why do you date without knowing her? You wouldn't have wasted time with any of them if you had waited like a normal person instead of jumping into things right away. Girls hit on me too, but I don't agree to date until I know them and would you look at that the next week I find out they hooked up with someone because I said no.
Justin Barnes
Yes, but it was always controlled by women. Women never had sex because they wanted to safeguard their relationship and make sure the guy they dated was in it for them and not just sex.
Women were actively seeking a husband back then because they had no state enforced welfare to fall back on if they royally fucked up. Women back then all wanted to be mothers and wives because they knew it would make them happy. Men have always just wanted sex, we went after women just for that and they used to make us work for it.
Now women don't care about getting pregnant because they simply do not need a father around for money because "muh vagina means I am entitled to alimony and welfare."
Blake Morris
Prime example of a delusional, woman-hating male.
Austin Cox
Not an argument.
Easton Gutierrez
Not for men
Brody Butler
Yes it is
John Cox
Sex without love is degenerate
Marriage is just the government getting involved in your life even further, which is more degenerate than non-marital sex
Elijah Foster
How so? All men have ever been driven to do is have sex. Do you think when you're married your drive to fuck just disappears? A mid-life crisis is literally when a man realizes he has a lot of money and still looks decent and is married to a woman who is dried up at the same age and can't even have kids anymore. It is your nuts basically telling you you still have some juice left and you need to go make more kids.
A woman used to learn the art of man-pleasing to kill that urge, or at least tame it. It really is a tragedy for women now, and for all the talk they put on feminism and men being pigs they don't even realize they are the ones who created this hell for them. And it is a hell for them when they get old, make no mistake.
>Feminism teaches women to hate traditional roles and values
>Teaches instead for girls to go to school instead of learn how to cook, clean, and look after kids
>Women go to college, want to date men but have no skills
>Spend money on makeup and clothes and market the only thing you have: a vagina
>Easily get men, in fact get more than you know what to do with
>Tons of sex
>Get old
>No amount of clothes or makeup can cover up father time
>Never learned anything to cement a man in a relationship, relied on vagina to keep asses in seats
>Wind up bitter, old, and alone
>Blame men and become a feminist
Julian Ortiz
modern marriage is degenerate. One of the biggest drivers. Do whatever you can to subvert it.
Oliver Thomas
Yup this
John Miller
solidarity fellow leaf
Wyatt Lee
It's in some men's nature to have sex with another men, it doesn't mean they should. Marriage is a life long commitment, you can't just leave your wife to cheat on her this is a sin.
Logan Smith
>Sex without love is degenerate
it may be, but don't knock it until you go through the experience of having a no strings attached fuckbuddy who is into anal and rope
Julian Garcia
if i marry my gf does it matter?
Brandon Hernandez
this is why germans are cucked
Isaac Perez
Even "good girls" are stupid whores now. Now they all go on JewTube and post themselves trying on thongs.
Except they don't call them "thongs" because "thongs are for sluts", so they call them "cheeky bottoms" and that makes it okay to wear in public and post on JewTube for everyone you know. And even 14 year olds are doing it.
Robert Smith
lol you never touched a woman, have you?
Dylan Lee
I never said you should, I said it is just in your nature to want to keep pumping out kids. It is in all men, why do you think women wear makeup? "Looking good" is literally just an attraction mechanism to breed kids. That is why men don't fuck old women who can still barely squeak out a kid and instead look for young, wide hip bearing girls. Natural things are built into us to know fertility when we see it.
"Morality" has no place in nature. Of course it is wrong to cheat on your wife, but the thought is in your head. It is also pretty fucked up for a lion to wait to ambush an antelope when it is giving birth so it can eat both the mother and the fawn, but it happens. Nature is all about survival, all men are about naturally is the desire to pump out kids, all women are about is taking care of kids. Ignoring these urges and pretending they don't exist is what feminism does, acknowledging them and taking steps to counteract them is smarter. For instance, no man will leave his old wife if she keeps him happy. No woman will leave her husband and fuck her kids over by not having a father if the father is just and works. You get what I'm saying?
Thomas Ross
>good girl
that chick is a fitness model attention whore. Her ass is her entire online career.