ITT: "Villains" who did literally nothing wrong

ITT: "Villains" who did literally nothing wrong.

He should have executed Glenn quicker, he didn't need to draw it out and torture him in his last seconds on earth to the point he wasn't even consciously aware cause his brain was mush but he was somehow still alive. He should have just killed him and gotten over with it.

Also how is he any more of a "villain" than Rick? Rick's just as much of a psychopath. Its a doggy dog world.

he was making a point

Well, considering how Rick and his group killed scored of Negan's men, and not even for a very good reason, I'd say killing a mere one of the group in a brutal fashion is a fair trade.

Why not just kill Rick?

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Because Rick is the leader. Killing him would make him a martyr. Negan wanted the rest to fall in line after Rick, so anybody else was expendable.

why didnt hilltop warn them that negan had so many people

he doesn't have shit on ezekiel

Negan's group made the first move.

but that makes no fucking sense. Literally anyone he butcfhers like that is going to be a Maryter. Rick & Co. were killing Neegan's CRIPS when it was just business. Now it's personal.

Best AMC WD villain. Goodnight sweet prince.

haha, he a good king. He just a zookeeper who bandaged a lion. King of the Dindus!

It makes perfect sense. You break the leader, you break the people who follow him.

I hate dindus just as the next guy but ezekiel is awesome. quit being such an assplug.

Was the joke really that bad?

As someone who doesn't watch the show, why dis he bash ching chong's skull in?

Because Daryl is a STUPID IDIOT!

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How do you know Glen wasn't conscious and aware of what was going on while his eye was popped out?

That's something I don't understand, why did negan say the first ones free before smushing Glen's head? Did daryl hit him twice or was killing the ginger "free"

First one was given, someone was gonna pay with their kids.
Anyone else to disrespect or get out of line will result affecting everyone else.
Daryl punched Negan and as a result to bashed in Glenn.
He explains to Maggie he's sorry but he means business and has to stay to his word to prove his point.

>Rick's group sneaks into one of Negan's compounds and slaughters like 50 men in their sleep
>Negan retaliates by killing only two of Rick's
>Also wants food
>implying that Negan isn't nicer than Rick

Not kids I meant life, fucking auto-correct.

b-b-but the 50 men weren't main characters!

I honest to God hope AMC has the balls to include a scene of some people (and even kids) mourning the people lost in that compound raid. That'd just be so amazing.

Thanks I pretty much checked out last season after the Glen fake out so couldn't remember if daryl punched or something negan at the end of s6.

Honestly I think the Glenn fakeout is gonna go down as a huge fucking fumble. Glenn's death is supposed to be powerful and unexpected. Why the fuck would you ruin it by adding a fakeout death mere episodes before??

>what is cause and effect

also rick didn't have 50 men to kill. if rick had 500 men at the time of getting caught by negan you can sure as fuck know negan would murder 50 of ricks pals

So? His "revenge" is still proportionally much smaller than Rick's act of violence.

>Negan successfully breaks Rick and turns him into a sobbing and hysteric little bitch after killing two of his most important men
>Gov couldn't even do more than killing two background characters and an old man, before being BTFO, despite having two attacks and a tank on his side
The cannibals that got butchered in the church were better than Governor, at least they had a cooler death

But they were plunderers. They are, in fact, Niggah's bunch.

no it's not

How isn't it? How many of Rick's crew has Negan killed compared to vice versa?

It was a reference to the season 6 finale where Glenn charged at him for taunting Maggie and he let him off with a warning that another outburst like that would be punished. The full line was
>All right, listen. Don't any of you do that again. I will shut that shit down, no exceptions. First one's free. It's an emotional moment, I get it.

Stop being an idiot. We like Rick's group because we know them. Negan's group has living and breathing people in it too. Sure, bashing Abraham and Glenn was a cock move, but Rick killed OVER 50 PEOPLE

Negan is downright merciful, really.
If some random group of people killed 50 of my men I would probably eliminate that entire group.

Because he's the main character

if rick had only 1 person with him and nigan 1million and rick killed 400,000 of nigan men and nigan killed ricks 1 person then nigan would been worse than rick had killing 500,000 it's common sensei

That's what I like about Negan, he's no worse than Rick.

Sorry, but how the fuck am I supposed to take this Negan seriously? He looks like he's under 200 pounds. I legitimately think I could take him in a fight.

He looks really small and skinny in that pic, did he lose weight for a role?

Weight doesn't matter when he's just going to bash your fucking skull in with a bat or shoot you.

Why do internet tough guys think everything always comes down to le honorable fisticuffs?

Remember Rick's first shit show shutdown?

Was Negan's kill on Glenn as brutal as a Machete through the middle of your skull?

Yeah he looked decently beefy as Comedian but I agree that he looks a lot skinnier now. i hope he's ok.

Dude physical intimidation is literally part of Negan's character. Sure, physical strength doesn't matter as much when guns are in play (see: Alpha), but Negan is supposed to intimidate Rick. Lucille obviously adds to the equation, but she isn't supposed to be the only source of fear.

I'm 6 foot 3 and 200 pounds and I wouldn't be that scared of fighting JDM. I'd much rather fight him than Shane.

Negan wants people alive so they can do shit for him. He's secretly a better leader than Rick.

You're going far outside the realm of mere groups here and talking full-blown army type shit, nigga. It's very flawed logic.

If you actually look behind his costumes, even than he wanst that big.
Snyder just cover it up realy well.

TOO FAR
>TOO FAR

But like you said, the guy's practically got an army at his helm and is armed with a barbed-wire baseball bat at all times, as well as guns. He could be a child-sized cripple and I'd still be scared of him. That aside, we'll probably get the scene where he beats the shit out of Rick before giving Carl back.

I didn't think it would get me but I want Negan to die so fucking bad it makes my teeth hurt.

Sure, it's a zombie apocalypse. Murder, rape, theft, torture, I get it. Breaking a man down and crushing him to the point he happily excepts the yoke?

Naw, fuck that guy. He needs to get shot in the dick.

>excepts

accepts*

>best villain
>literally could've lived happily ever after but MUH PRIDE

Stupid.

Yeah, let's just forget that Rick and his harem killed dozens of people beforehand.

>secretly

requesting a meme version of this

They were killing thieves who wouldn't have stopped without violence. That's just law of the land. And they did it methodically and quickly.

Survival of the fittest. Negan enjoys this shit:
>I just slid my dick down your throat, and you thanked me for it.

Rick and the gang never took pleasure in this business.

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Looks about the same, m8.

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They killed out of necessity. Most of the trouble came to their doorsteps and they chose the best actions to resolve it. What, you think they've could've lived happily with the cannibals, wolves, saviors, etc? Rick's group doesn't go around kidnapping, eating or enslaving people. Do they kill? Sure. Do they kill to protect and help others? Definitely.

Have you seen what happens to the people who don't kill?

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>and they chose the best actions to resolve it.
Clearly not, considering everything that happened almost immediately after. You can say that Rick killed 50 people out of necessity if you want, but that doesn't make Negan's retaliation any less justifiable. Was he supposed to just lay down and not make an example out of the people who just took 50 of his own?

> i'll slide my dick down your throat

Killing Negan's men is morally right, ffs they would have killed walrus face and psycho negro girl if Daryl didn't have a rocket launcher.

Did you skip episodes?

Negan does this to every group they encounter regardless of what they do. It's his was of bringing them in line. He's not there to negotiate or compromise. He wants slaves.

They go over this several times in the series
>Daryl, Abraham, and Sasha get ambushed on the road and they state, "we usually kill one of you to prove a point"
>The Hilltop community admits that they've killed some of their members on first encounter and kidnapped others to ensure compliance

So, nothing Rick did prior to that would've changed the outcome. This is how Negan and the Saviors operate. If anything, yes, yes it was a smart decision to at least lessen their numbers by about 50 assholes before you inevitable lose one or two of your own.

>every villain, sideboss and sidecharacter is more interesting than the protagonist

is there some sort of rule where the protag must be this insufferable cunt?

But they invaded a compound and killed dozens of Saviors in their sleep unprovoked.

I forgot about the group in the woods Daryl encounters and The Kingdom, but it's the same story.

>encounter group
>make an example
>take some leverage
>enslave the rest

Batman.

They attempted to kill innocent people, that's enough provocation.

A hero is usually a vehicle for an author to push whatever agenda or philosophy they espouse onto their readers. An antagonist who opposes it is always refreshing.

Would Sup Forums anons let Negan Lucille their boipucci?

Ricks group didn't kill them to prevent more deaths. They killed them so Hilltop would give them supplies as payment for killing Saviors.

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Not that guy, but either way you look at it, what befell Rick at Negan's hands was entirely his own fault.

Doesn't matter why, they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell.

You mean the compound full of bandits that were extorting the Hilltop group through violence?

Those innocent sleeping angels?

And Rick's group deserved to die for all the shit they've done. Different strokes.

Name one innocent objectively good person Rick's group has killed

>deserved to die

Almost every situation they've been in has been thrust upon them.

Governor.

Name one innocent objectively good person in the show
Not the situation with Negan. That was entirely avoidable.

Merle

>kill a bunch of friendly u.s. soldiers
>good

Alright.

>innocent
T-Dawg.

>avoidable
Saviors were the aggressors. They picked a fight with Alexandria on the road first.

An insane murderer doesn't count.
Was killed by the Governor

True, but they did leave him to die on a roof.

>T-Dawg.
Was killed by zombies

he is a literal cuck thought

>Saviors were the aggressors. They picked a fight with Alexandria on the road first.
They weren't with Rick's group. Rick thrusted himself in a conflict he didn't need to be a part of. His whole ordeal with Negan was started by him and his crew.

Honestly Rick is just a monster.

The question was, "name an objectively good person on the show".

Also, Hershel.

You skipped episodes.

Saviors ran into the a group from Alexandria on the road after they tried leading away the zombie horde. They were going to kill one of them until Daryl killed them all with a recoilless rifle.

This all happened before they even met the Hilltop people.

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Fuck yes, Jesus.

>evil makes you deformed

I hate this trope.

>You kill and you die
He should have no problem with half his group dying then.

Saviors were just going to rob them. While this is a bad thing to do, it's a bit more forgivable morally as opposed to Rick's group creeping into where dozens of Saviors slept and scalping them in their sleep all because some strangers promised them some food. Hell, Rick even demanded more from the Strangers than what Negan demanded.

Both sides are bad, but Rick's side is probably worse because they're going out and starting shit

but this is a "did nothing wrong" thread

Plot