Reminder that the only people who claim to dislike artists with a wide critical acclaim (Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd...

Reminder that the only people who claim to dislike artists with a wide critical acclaim (Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, The Beatles...) have never listened to enough of that artist to form a proper opinion.

I don't think you understand the chain of that conversation.

I don't think you understand the chain of that conversation.

there is no retard retarder than a retard claiming that bob dylan is boring

Natalie is right honestly, I feel like Dylan was succeeded by Hip Hop but he definitely was a pioneer and his poetry will go down in history. His music and vocals are low quality, I think when Dylan finds a good groove for his lyrics though there's nothing like it.

/blog

i'm still fuming over marcel giving blonde on blonde a negative review

holy fucking shit

Dylan isn't very good though. I've never understood how hipsters can listen to mediocre music just because the lyrics are great.

Why would someone that isn't a fan know 10 songs of ANY artist?

I think what the chain meant was along the lines of "you think Dylan is underrated and boring so name some songs so I can see if you know what you're talking about" and he discovered she really didn't know much and was probably reacting to his dusty farty image more than being a real music critic. She's pretentious.

Literally who verified accounts are the fucking worst

why because I'm not villainizing him for """gatekeeping"""? Maybe he didn't say it in the best way, but he is absolutely right that someone who hasn't listened to Dylan has no right to call him (or any other artist) overrated

I can't blame someone for not liking a certain type of music or artist, but she worded the tweet incorrectly. She worded it as if her opinion was fact, which was the red flag. I haven't listened to a lot of metal music, but I do know that I don't like it.

There is no reason they should. It's fine if someone has never listened to a musician/has no interest in doing so, but they shouldn't be spouting their stupid opinion on a topic don't know anything about

i bet there is a critical acclaimed artist you dislike.

>I feel like Dylan was succeeded by Hip Hop
Please use a tripcode so I can filter you and never read something written by you again

>but I do know that I don't like it

writing off entire genres is dumb

I can't even think of 10 songs of many artists I like. You have to be obsessed with something to some degree to memorize that many song titles.

obvious bait

Not at all, using your biases and recognizing them is a mature way to not waste your time on music you know you won't like.

Like I said in a different reply, the middle guy may not have said what he did the best way, but I'm willing to bet that girl's opinion of Dylan is a lot closer to an open mic night impression of Dylan than it is to his actual large, varied, influential, and heavily acclaimed discography

Well no, the only people that will tell you that Pink Floyd's discography is all great are either teenagers or are otherwise mentally stunted.

Everything you need to know about Bobby D is in Desolation Row, the most flamboyant display of trivial knowledge and pseudo-Americana since, you guessed it, Woody Guthrie's general career. Woah, dude! He mentions Ezra Pound AND T.S. Eliot! So deep!

Exactly. Though unlike the girl, I don't say that its bad or boring, because I know other people have different opinions than I do.

t. hasn't listened to Pink Floyd

She's right. Problem with Eric's attempt to call her out is that most of his songs are too forgettable to remember the names of, regardless of whether/how many times you've heard them.
Though with that said, he's a big enough icon that even people who don't listen to him at all probably can think of 10 of his songs.

Am I right in guessing that she complained about being mansplained to after this?

The initial opinion of Dylan being boring and overrated is dumb but the response is even dumber. Who’s able to name 10 songs of an artist that they don’t like?

I dislike Justin Bieber and can't list 10 songs off the top of my head either.

This.

Bieber probably also has an actual large, varied, influential, and heavily acclaimed discography as well but fuck it first impressions are everything and the first handful of songs I heard from him were enough to disregard him for good.

Bob Dylan is literature, not music in the first place.

this post gave me cancer, then AIDS cancer

>I don't say that its bad or boring

Don't be so literal and sensitive.

When people talk about food or movies or music or video games or anything that is mostly sujective, OF COURSE when they say that it's bad or good or boring the the best thing ever they mean that according to their opinion. It just goes without saying.

There are people who slate Dylan because they think Dylan is honking painful thin harmonica songs about starving farmers. Play those people Girl From the North Country, which is from that fucking period, and watch them shut up. Corina Corina works as well.

>Bieber probably also has an actual large, varied, influential, and heavily acclaimed discography
What the fuck are you talking about? No one is saying you can't dislike any artist, the problem is people writing off 50+ years of critical consensus with a tweet

People pretending like hip hop isnt (or wasnt) just a modern folk, easy to do and for the people, lmao

who gives a fuck? it’s a tweet.

he would have a point if memorizing song names translated to a worthwhile amount of knowledge on an artists music. but sadly it doesnt.

>the problem is people writing off 50+ years of critical consensus with a tweet

I fail to see why that's a problem

will kendrick lamar win a nobel prize?

>I know who Bob Dylan is
>I don't know who either of the people in the OP are
Dylan wins.

are you fucking stupid? i like hundreds of artists and i can name 10 songs for nearly all of them

Good thing it isn't a male critic saying it or you guys would have to stop liking Dylan

>listen to a few albums
>don't appreciate it or see what the fuss is about
>can't name 10 songs off the top of their head

can you believe the barefaced CHEEK of some people

Reminder that you don't need to entire an entire shit to know that it tastes bad.

Bob Dylan got it when he was 75, so Kendrick Lamar has 45 more years to get his. I wouldn't be surprised if Kendrick does receive one imo

one day we'll have a quota for nobel prizes to assure that black people are equally represented

Tupac maybe, Kendrick definitely not. Too derivative.

unless tupac turns out to be alive he won't get a nobel prize

very likely tbqh. I was speaking to Nobel staff in Sweden and they said that their country has too many white male winners

Pink Floyd is highly overrated, I can't stand when someone plays any song from The Wall around a group of people. Such a fucking downer.

The Beatles only good songs are cover songs, Yellow Submarine was the only good album. Garbage pretentious wifebeater singer hyprocrite anyone who is a beatles fanatic is usually has a shit/basic personality.

The Doors, Iron Maiden, and Led Zeppelin(could be debated on LZ) however are great bands that deserve their acclaim.

this isn't the problem, people are free to like what they like, the problem is baselessly calling something overrated and criticizing it on silly superflous grounds

you are the problem

Phil Ochs and Donovan were better

name a better pop song writer than the beatles.
also most of the songs in the wall are in major key? no one listens to lyrics at parties

kendrick will recieve it his honour

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>the absolute state of dylanheads

Michael Jackson

No, the top 10 aspect of the exchange is definitely the point, otherwise the replies would've been omitted from the screencap and just her original statement shown; the inclusion of the replies frames it as a "gotchya", shifting focus onto the rebuttal (which is worth criticising because it's a really useless rebuttal). Her initial claim is retarded, and a better response would have been trying to eke out a justification for the adjectives used, rather than requesting a list that proves nothing.

just take a look at yourself

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right, the "name 10 songs" aspect was to show that she hadn't listened to enough dylan to use those adjectives, sure it's a silly metric, but the spirit of it is absolutely correct

OP you're a cock sucker the likes of which this planet has never seen. The beatles early stuff isn't that good, it's actually tipical boy band level shit, stuff like "I want to hold your hand" and "yellow submarine" aren't good songs. Their later songs are pretty good tho. Bob Dylan is a great song writer but isn't a very good artists, the covers of his songs are almost always better than the originals

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I don't think you understand the chain of that conversation.

kendrick is less derivative than pac is this bait

Fucking classic.

I've listened to a lot of them. I dislike them now because I've listened to them enough that I have heard enough and need to hear new stuff. I think they are good though. so I don't dislike them, I just can't listen to music for more than like 5 years without moving on.

bad analogy

a shit will generally be the exact same flavor and consistency throughout, while the breadth of an artist's discography may contain many different "flavors," some of which might be enjoyed and others not

>The beatles early stuff isn't that good
And it doesn't receive nearly the critical acclaim of the later stuff
>Their later songs are pretty good tho
Oh, so you agree on this point
>Bob Dylan is a great song writer but isn't a very good artists
Go listen to Nashville Skylines, and Desire then come back to me

He isn't as that would trigger /lit/

"No."

>I listen to one song per artist on youtube

I'm not really into hip hop, although I enjoy Madvillain, Tribe Called Quest, The Roots and some of Kendrick and Kanye. Can someone explain why Tupac is so revered?

He managed to do the impossible which was to make mainstream "pop" music that was also smart and well-written with a social message without hitting you over the head with it. His music appealed to practically everyone.

Literature and social justice nerds could sit there and analyze all the lyrics while normies would just blindly dance to the music without ever thinking about it. Other rap groups and arists were either one or the other.

Of course it doesn't hurt that he practically joined the 27 club and got murdered which cemented his legacy before he could become a sellout or eccentric multi-millionaire weirdo or anything like musicians tend to do after they reach their first plateau of success.

I can name 50 Pink Floyd Somgs chronologically by instinct. Still think they are overrated af. Same for the Beatles. Still like both bands.

Being in the right place at the right time more or less.
his sound wasn't very innovative and he was hardly the first rapper to try to be more thoughtful

Lol at the white boys getting offended by this. Dylan is definitely a top 5 mc of all time

I do and often get asked "if you don't like them why do you listen to them?"

So, what you're saying is, because you've listened to a lot of these critically acclaimed artists, even though they may not be your absolute favorites, you recognize that they aren't bad and that you shouldn't just right them off. This is the whole point of the thread, you are the exact opposite of Natalie

he was the paragon for contemporary rap at the time. that, and he was murdered.

hot take for you yakubians to run with:
tupac was just "in character" as bishop for the rest of his life, making his strides to better the social plight of black people both futile and contradictory.
he went to mica(shout out to my bodymore famula we outchea) and left the city because it was "too hard" for him and claimed LA as his city because LA is innately pussy.

not discrediting the impact pac had on the game but lesbi real:
the nigga was wild fraudulent. he was basically that friend that always wanted to take shit to the next level to assert that he was with the shits.

like if your friend drank 2 beers in 30 secs; pac would be that friend would have to drink 5 in 15 seconds.

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just imagine having an opinion this pleb

Slamming peoples opinions is fun mates.

Why do women feel the need to turn everything into a question of gender politics

perhaps because gender politics invade their entire lives,the male perspective is default

kek, only men have to qualify their opinions silly. women aren't to be questioned

but this whole thread is people discussing the merit of the opinion in the original tweet, but that first poster felt the need to bring up the tweeters gender into it as if everyone else was the problem, and the reply tweet had nothing to do with gender either, but he was written off due to his gender

fucking kill yourself you retarded tumblrina faggot

Insecurity, obviously.

Because that kind of shit in the tweet reply is always and only done by men.

Look at gaymer gate and the resulting shit circus. Anytime a girl said anything about video games, even positive, there was always some fucking guy who questioned her "gamer" credibility and said the exact same thing as the dude in OP.

If a guy says that he likes whatever, there isn't a girl who is going to autistically demand and ask him to list 10 things related to that.

I don't know much about gamer gate, put I'm pretty sure it surrounded some female journalists, if that's right than I agree that's a problem, because a professional has to be knowledgeable on the subject to be credible in their job, and you better have a meaningful reason to disagree with a person who knows what they're talking about, but the guy in the tweet was calling out a person who hasn't listened to Bob Dylan for giving their opinion on Bob Dylan, men do this to men as well (though maybe not as much as to women, I honestly don't know and won't claim to). And while women may not do the exact same thing saying things like "whatever would we do with out men" is also dismissive of that person's opinion entirely on the basis of gender

gamergate was more about the kotaku/polygon/whatever bullshit publications in the world being nepotistic SJW echo chambers that really don't deserve to make money

>is also dismissive of that person's opinion entirely on the basis of gender

but that guy didn't have an opinion, he just butted in with an autistic interrogation.

It was actually about ethics in gaming journalism, or so they said.