Do you agree with this photo? and why?

do you agree with this photo? and why?

no bait in any sense, but i've heard american education system teaches kids that it was only usa that smoked nazi germany in ww2.

op is georgian, i'm proud stalin was georgian.

no, more like pick related

Tell me dear friend, after the Germans crushed the Red army in operation Barbarossa and chased you behind the Volga and Don, tell me please:

Where did you get all those tanks, guns, and air plains ? Not that you had many before the war, and especially after the Germans destroyed all of them. Who gave you more?

Did some Americana lend or lease them to you?

How would you have held off the Germans without all that hardware ?

You are welcome. Pittsburgh steel saved the Soviet Union.

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American here, no, I'm old enough and have read enough to know the top pic is garbage. The bottom is not precisely correct either. The best way I heard it described is that "WW2 was won with British stubbornness, American steel... and Russian blood."

Not necessarily true but Soviets did basically 50% of the fighting against Germany

absolute american bullshit.

In my American school we were taught that the US joining the fight was a turning point for the war and that our weapons/supplies helped out a lot. We also learned that Russia lost a lot of soldiers and a good amount of their country got messed up. The tone towards them was always very respectful.

and 90% of the dying

>Tell me dear friend, after the Germans crushed the Red army in operation Barbarossa and chased you behind the Volga and Don, tell me please:
>Where did you get all those tanks, guns, and air plains ? Not that you had many before the war, and especially after the Germans destroyed all of them. Who gave you more?
soviet factories

American here. I remember being taught in like middle school of how each country impacted the war.

However, we far expanded on America’s impact in a semester long class called “American History”. It wasn’t really strange though I don’t think, dont other countries put more focus on their country during classes to some extent?

it's true for the land war, USSR did win the land war single handedly, but america won the naval war against both japan and germany.

So they should be AQUATIC DINOS

Kek

Yeah...

>air plains
The state of American education.

didn't russia fuck over polish resistance against the nazi's at some point?

Not really... they had tons of soldiers, don’t get me wrong. But those soldiers were very poorly equiped to the point that some platoons of 50 guys might have 10-12 rifles. And when someone with a gun got shot, and you were unarmed, you were expected to grab up the gun and continue fighting. Commissars were employed to ensure that the Russian fighting forces were adequately motivated to do just this. And when they did not perform, the commisar would execute the soldier and continue on.

The russians did honestly about 15% of the fighting. The russian winter and topography picked up the rest of the slack for them.

They left the poles to their fate because they had an agreement with Hitler.

kek, it's pretty accurate, but I wouldn't say Japan was that small. They held quite a lot of territory in China and "Russian clay" Manchuria.

>western propaganda
this is what shills believe

Well, as far as I know, it was mostly pressure from two fronts that caused the collapse of nazi regime. It was a team effort, guys!

America won the war fagget!!!!! With very little help from it’s Bitch’s

Do they teach the history of the wall of berlin?

Hitler broke his contract with stallin by attacking russia.
Stallin tells everyone, nearby to nazis routes, to sacrificate everything in reach: farms, animals, resources. It was winter in russia, being very different from germany's winter, they weren't able to survive without food, safehouse, and heat.
By the time they reached some distance, thet were weak af and russians took advantage. The red army.
And by that, communist attacked the nazis, a good advantage for 'murica. They attacked too.
If either hitler did a hero or he just ran to argentina (like many nazi survivors did) we can't know for sure.

We just know the powerful ones are the ones who tell the history. And the powerful ones at that time are the same ones right now: the jews, whom just take control of everything and changes it to their liking and amusing

Britain won the naval war too.
They've always been navy-focused, and the reason they couldn't operate an effective navy for a few years into WW2 was because Germany relied heavily on submarines broadcasting encrypted signals.

The first programmable computer (then known as a "Turing Machine") was invented in Britain to decrypt these signals, and Germany was at a huge naval disadvantage as a result as every ship was broadcasting its location.
Germany never realised that Britain could read their broadcasts, because even in the British army only a select few actually knew this, and they'd only share information if it wouldn't obviously reveal that they could read German broadcasts (for example, bombers making a beeline for a submarine would be a giveaway).

The result was that Britain was making the German navy put itself at a disadvantage by revealing everything, which is a pretty big deal.

The only shill here is you new-friend. Go look at the evidence that is the lend lease programs. USA shipped almost more munitions and vehicles to Russian forces than they used in their own army. The Russians literally could not manufacture enough.

And as stated above, the routs of Russian forces at battles like Barbossa severely depleted even those meager means and had the Russians flee the eastern front to hide in Russia until the Germans were more pressed by the western advance of the US/British forces. Only then did Russia advance back out to press the Germans and split their forces.

Go read on the battles of Stalingrad or the Rzhev-Sychevka offensives... then come back with some ACTUAL knowlegde and not just a dick in your mouth.

This is the most correct answer

I don't fucking agree with it because for the first couple of years the U.S.A was nowhere to be seen while the UK were basically fighting as a stand alone country.

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kind of yes, except there should be "what americans think ww2 was"

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How many soviet factories do you think existed in siberia? Even today? Literally not enough to fight off the poles much less the germans.

One thing that no one appreciates about WW2 is how much of it happened in the east.
People say that Germany was defeated due to fighting a war on two fronts, but the western front was a minor skirmish on comparison to what was going on in the east.

Stalin being a psycho resulted in two wars with Finland during WW2, totalling over a million Soviet casualties.
To put that in perspective, in the beginning of WW2 Britain was panicking because it had its entire 300k-strong army trapped on a beach.

If Stalin had made the sensible choice and offered to maintain a garrison in Finland as protection from Germany (with the real purpose being to hold Finland at gunpoint), then the extra military power available to Russsia would have been like having another Britain in the east.
So, Russia could have won against Germany solo if it wasn't for Stalin attacking Finland.

One thing that needs to be considered is that as long as Russia wasn't suddenly overwhelmed, the Russian military could outgrow the German military. The only thing required for Russia to beat Germany is for it to survive the first half of the war.
Russia had a massive advantage in survival: They had the KV tank which was a weak offensive tank, but a nigh-unbeatable defensive tank.

Fairly accurate. If my fellow Burgerlanders had two brain cells to rub together they'd tell you that it's the reason for the cold war. US leadership got shook af after seeing what the Soviets were capable of during WW2.

>The first programmable computer (then known as a "Turing Machine") was invented in Britain to decrypt these signals
Sorry fam, but that's not accurate at all. The first programmable computer was Zuse's Z3.

dinosaurs died 65 million years ago you dipshit. I watched lots of WWII documentaries and never saw any goddam dinosaurs.

No, we weren't taught that the USA highhandedly won the war. However, our unit on WW2 didn't tak much about the war outside of the US's involvement. More like tunnel vision, not aggrandizing. We didn't so much learn about WWII as we did about the US during WWII.

Basically we'd cover a decade every couple of weeks or so in US history, and what we learned when we reached WWII was all of WWII that we really touched on. So having a mostly retarded population, kids come away from History thinking that what they learned is everything that there is to know, and that the US was the protagonist of history rather than just one of many factors.

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It doesn't help that a vast majority of WW2 films (which are "advised" on & endorsed by the military for obvious reasons) depict the US as the hero protagonist of the story.

Because most well known films are made in the US. Of course if a work or "art" is made covering history it is going to focus on the achievements of the parent country.

This is true of any country.

Oh look, this picture for the 10 millionth time. Only retards who didn't pay attention in shitty public schools and only learned about WW2 from movies will say pic related is correct, but we learned the soviets roll in the war, and their many additional atrocities. And how Hitler lost his damn mind at the last moment and made Stalin his enemy for some reason, and how proximity and numbers favored the Soviets, especially considering how Germany was already juggling the Allies.

This. Unironically. Russians were nazi allies, America stopped them both.
NATO didn’t do shit either , was all America

60 million russians died fighting in WW2. Think about that.

>NATO didn’t do shit either ,
Given that NATO didn't exist back then, it's not surprising.
Britain had been fighting Germany and its allies, alone, for years before the US arrived (late again).

>Unironically. Russians were nazi allies,
A non-agression pact doesn't make you allies. The Russians didn't fight alongside the Nazis.

Was it also taught how cunt merica sold weapons to both sides?

No. Other countries arent retarded

this
>LA total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $681 billion presently) worth of supplies was shipped, or 17% of the total war expenditures of the U.S.[2] In all, $31.4 billion (equivalent to $427 billion today) went to Britain, $11.3 billion (equivalent to $154 billion today) to the Soviet Union, $3.2 billion (equivalent to $43.5 billion today) to France, $1.6 billion (equivalent to $21.7 billion today) to China, and the remaining $2.6 billion to the other

Sure, the Russians fought and died very bravely for their country and I commend them for it. The made great sacrifices to defeat the Nazis, and I will never disparage that. But to say that they did it, alone, without the help of the US is just straight up false.
>British Intelligence
>American Goods
>Russian Blood

No, because the Americans were mainly helping the Allies. It also isn't taught how cunt Switzerland was financially supporting the Nazis.

Now it is accurate

The war was won by British brains, American brawn, and Russian blood.

Not really, it seemed kinda deadlocked until we entered. If you should be on our case about anything it's not helping and basically laughing at you over socialism until somebody bombed us. We were going to and to some degree still did use Europe's recovery to become #1, we fleeced you pretty good.

Yes. I was taught the U.S. sold to both sides, then brits told us to choose a side, Germans were actively sinking our boats to England, so we told them fuck you and stopped giving them supplies, and de facto joined the brits

That's the simple, abridged American middle school story.

Every nation embellishes it's involvement to an extent, pic is retarded since neither the US or Soviets dominated the whole war. I'd argue that Soviets had more involvement for sure but not as shown in the pic. America was pretty far removed from the world wars, I mean we had oceans separating us from it, so we tried to let Europe handle it's own and for the most part they did. All America really did was kick the Japs in the balls and support Europe in defeating the Nazis. We didn't care too much for the Soviets but we had a mutual enemy that's all. Nationalism breeds the embellishment you see in history books but most people with a brain can look past it and see it for what it was. It was a joint effort involving all of Europe with a few countries over there just trying to stay out of the way. If I had to pick top contributors as far as bringing the war under allied control, I'd probably say England, Soviets then America in that order. We were mainly used as a rear supporting role but did take on more of a vanguard one towards the end. That's the whole reason Americans try to say they "won" the war but it's not the case. American here btw.

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britain didn't do shit they just sit their ass and waited for germans to come at them.
In fact britain is responsible for letting hitler have his ways and invade checkoslovakia because britain always brewed wars in europe in order to weaken other european powers, these cunts

The British defeated the Luftwaffe paving the way for Allied air dominance in Europe. That's just not true at all.

Though they did let hitler get away with a lot of shit before the war

I'm from California, took AP Euro, and learned bottom pic.
I know that America was pretty much only good for 2 shotting Japan, but our K:D compared to Russia's is like diamond Vayne main vs bronze Yasuo who was autofilled jg

I don't understand why france is the chicken.
While in ww2 the british pulled back their troops to their island without telling the france, or anyone in that matter. Thats why that new warmovie: DUNKIRK is just a lot of horse shit.

They pussied out and let the other allies fight without telling they were gone.
Hitler sayd: he let them go.
But the fact is he didn't even know they were retreating.

i think i recall reading that the Germans were even expecting a counter attack.

What about in part 1 french fag? What's your excuse there? In the 3rd, you'll tuck, cuck, and roll over again. It's in your croissant gene.