Is he right?

Is he right?

Why or why not?

He talks about money a lot.

Of course he's fucking right. You burgers have gone full kike mode.

People who are selling the drug want and need to make money off it. Does them no good to sell it for too cheap or too expensive.

Good now unfuck the FDA for costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to pharmaceutical companies and on average 20+ years to finally approve these drugs which is the prime reason they cost so fucking much.

A life-saving drug would not exist if nobody would profit from it

A life saving drug leads to a dependence on another synthetic drug.

A life-saving drug also does no good if it's not being made because it's not profitable.

But I agree with him generally. I'm really for universal healthcare because I'M A FUCKING LEAF, and this requires cheaper drugs. The price of drugs is much, MUCH higher than it should be and the government is enabling that. It's due to corruption, once again.

That's what insurance is for. Get a job and buy private insurance. It's not that expensive.

Would you rather have 100 drugs on the market and nobody knows which ones will save you and which don't?

Do you see how much money pharmaceuticals make? It's easy to gouge in this market.

No

The drugs would be affordable if there was actually an open market in the industry. Pharmaceuticals are incredibly regulated and have steep barriers for entry into the industry, which is why big pharma companies can charge whatever they want for drugs. Trumps medical plan addresses this btw

Why dont they just use

>Medicare
>Medicaid
>Prescription Drug Program
>Obamacare

Or any of the other gorillion government programs that are supposed to 'help'

>the price of drugs is much higher than it should be
you're right, you are a FUCKING LEAF that understands literally nothing about drug investment and why it's expensive

It is correct, if nobody can use the drug, nobody can benefit from it.

But people CAN use the drug, because we have an interlocking network of systems, some paid, some social, which cover virtually everyone in the country, and because of this we have one of the most potent medical systems in the world. The United States is #1 in Cancer survival for a reason, it's because you get what you pay for, and medicine is no exception.

Bernie Sanders on the other hand bitches that people don't have enough money, while advocating raising everyones' taxes by at least 10%. I already pay 20% of my fucking income in taxes because of this shit state and Obongo, you want me to pay 30% or more? Go fuck yourself, I have enough trouble saving up for my kids' college without this kike stealing another ten dollars out of every hundred I earn.

People like Martin Shkreli do more to get drugs to people who need them than Bernie Sanders.

>A person who spends years working on something is not entitled to profit from it

You're not entitled to something you can't afford.

a life-saving drug does no good if the people who use it don't deserve to live

I didn't say "kill the FDA as a whole," I said "unfuck it"

20+ years and hundreds of thousands dollars pissed away just to get a new pill on the market. When money has to be spent on lobbyists and fees, that makes the price of the drug as soon as it gets on the market raise. You either speed up that process or make the way less costing and more efficiant you provide life saving drugs to people who need them.

>implying they don't
Prescription drugs here are cheap as fuck, as you should know, but that doesn't mean the pharmacutical companies aren't making any money. It's just that the government pays for most of the cost

Yes

Do you have any idea what a pipeline is in pharmaceuticals?

If I made one drug that worked, passed regulations and made it to market you goddamn better believe I'm getting as much fucking ROI as possible

What happens when the Socialist government sets a maximum price that the drug can be sold by companies for?

they change the prices in countries where there are no limits on prices. Why do you think drugs are cheap outside of America? Because drug companies are completely fine making dosh in the US where they can jack prices to compensate

A life saving drug does good if it was never made because the pharmaceutical company went out of business because it couldn't make enough money to keep the lights on.

How the fuck can anyone this economically retarded be a serious contender for president? Oh wait, all his supporters are also economically illiterate.

>The government pays

And you wonder why your taxes are so goddamn high.

It's because of patents and corruption why that shit is expensive.
>Patent expires for a lifesaving drug
>Pharmaceutical company pays the politicians to regulate that drug out of the market
>They sell the new slightly altered version at the same price

I personally do believe that yes, if you do patent a lifesaving drug, you do have the right to make, let's say 10 years worth of profit off it until that shit should go to public domain and everyone else can freely produce that drug without having to pay royalties even if that ends up in lives lost for the people during that decade who couldn't afford the drug.

I do not believe that you should be allowed to hold on to that position indefinately.

What kinda drugs is Bernie on?

We pay not much more tax than you overall, to spend half as much on health care as you do.

Probably Daraprim, since he constantly gets fucked by niggers.

The way I see it is that there are 2 ways about this issue: Either the drug needs to be cheaper or people need more disposable income.

Or we could just stop being so attached to living until we're 100 years old

What's wrong with that statement? Only the impotant (rich) people survive. If your country is 50% jobless mexican beggars then who the fuck cares if they die. It's their fault.

if a tree falls in the forest and nobody's around to hear it, does it still make a noise?

Obviously you daft cunt.

Why would you save losers?

The statement is correct but the intent is loaded.

A life-saving drug does no good if it does not exist because of lack of financial incentive. R&D under Sanderscare would be nonexistent.

They can't afford a life saving drug but they can afford an iphone, a truck, internet, cable and other pointless frivolities.
Maybe people should prioritize better instead of dreaming of a world were doctors and researchers are slaves to the everyman and synthetic chemical compounds materialized from thin air for free.

NO! FUCK THE POOR!

t. hate jews but kikes of them all -Sup Forums

Those prescription drugs were designed by American companies, you're literally leeching off the American health care system like everyone else in the world, I wish they stopped this charity so people can wake the fuck up to reality.

He's right. The solution is to stop investing in drug research, it's clearly wasted money.

Dude this is the economic problem of capitalism.

You know we produce enough food to feed the world several times over. It does no good to the starving if they can't afford it.

You can't use capitalism and then complain than the profit motive is doing things against your feels.

Thats what charity is for. Helping those who can't help themselves.

The answer to a social problem is never theft through the use of government force.

The idea is right, but he wants to fix the problem the wrong way. There are better ways to lower the cost of medicine, such as better defining the terms of malpractice so that doctors don't have to pay out the wazoo for Malpractice Insurance, which would subsequently lower the cost of healthcare.

Antibiotics are getting expensive to find and distribute these days.

If the people who needs it can't buy then who is buying it?

He's right, which is why the government needs to get out of Healthcare entirely to stop the massive regulation from increasing prices.

Of course he isn't right, free healthcare is what the red menace wants. America is free to pay full inflated price for their necessary medications, that's the only way to stop the country collapsing

There's no such thing as free.

The Government has no money.

Well that's your fault for being ugly.

What I don't get is those universal hc countries have entities like the fda but they're less fucked.

The diagnosis is correct, I'm afraid his solution to that problem would only cause more problems, though.

DAILY REMINDER THAT MARTIN DOES LIVESTREAMS, THERE ARE VIDEOS OF HIM EXPLAINING, IN DEPTH, THE NECESSARY PROCEDURE WHEN IT COMES TO OBTAINING THE DRUGS HE OWNS.

A life saving drug does no good if the company can't afford to produce it, afford to pay its employees, and afford to attract smart and effective Mangerment.
And it also doesn't do any good if the company no longer needs to worry about staying competitive and therefore stops innovating and let's quality fall.

>Live in Germany.
>Free Healthcare.
>Feelsgoodman

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A life saving drug may not have been researched by a company that lacks the funding to research the drug. If lifesaving drugs only save a few hundred people and a line costs $20m in machinery and labor costs the company takes a loss selling the lifesaving drug for $20 a treatment. There is a reason America is responsible for most new drug research and that is because we incentivize success.