Trump Wont Defend Allies Unless They Pay Up

Donald Trump attempts a shake down on the world, by threatening to go back on any and all allies unless they "pay up more and show respect." How do you feel about our first mobster president?

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based Don

No one is forcing them to accept the US aid, they can just say no

I love it. As someone who thinks all Republicans and Democrats should be rounded up and sent to extermination camps, Trump is making violence between the supporters of these parties more and more likely every day. If we can get this to a point where Republicans and Democrats are killing each other in the streets, that will be the real victory. DEAD REPUBLICANS + DEAD DEMOCRATS = WIN/WIN

Is being the worlds janitor what we really want?
Not asking for our pound of flesh is taking losses.

He should just outright end it

>allies
more like frienemies.

>No one is forcing them to accept the US aid


FUCKING LOL

The CIA is glad you don't know what they do.

While I'd like for us to not be the world's policeman, it would create chaos to simply end it, and would leave us as vulnerable as the rest of the world to an even worse power taking over.

So at least making this a fair deal is a great idea for now and as a step toward reconsidering how we should all be doing things.

Cia posting in 3....2.....1....

>"HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR FAIR COMPENSATION FOR THE HELP YOU'RE PROVIDING OUR NATION"

>"YOU'RE A MAFIA BOSS"

foreign aid is basically a bribe to let them run their black ops.

We're not obligated to defend jack shit. They are not entitled to our involvement or protection. They have taking the USA for granted. Trump is 100% correct about this.

Most of which seem to be counterproductive anyway.

Time to start purging. We need effective, efficient, intelligent black ops.

great

Except like the little shop owner these people WANT our protection

>thats a big prediction

>allies

Are these the same "allies" who never pay their NATO bills while simultaneously shit talking America for being racist gun obsessed warmongers? What kind of allies are these? Why are we in an alliance with these people? Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago? Why can't we make new allies? Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago?

>Previously, Trump said he would prefer that countries acquired nuclear weapons rather than continue military alliances with the U.S. that he thinks are too expensive.
woah imagine if every single country have nukes
saudi arabia, iran, qatar, oman, mexico, cuba
i bet nothing could go wrong

I wonder if NATO has rules about supporting countries that practice genocide, like most of the ones in NATO are currently with all these rapefugees?

And also, do you have any idea what it's going to cost when they start jihadding left and right?

What protection? Exactly what has america "protected" their allies from? You know, when their not handing out guns to terrorists and bombing civilians?

That`s literally the most retard thing you can do. The one thing that could endanger the position of the US as the global hegomon is losing europe.

And in case you missed it: You are pretty much hated everywhere west of the former GDR

Thank you for making this thread to keep the cucks contained

I am not a #johnsonhead

Isn't the UK the only NATO member state that spends the minimum 2% of GDP required on defense?

Asking for fair compensation isn't a shakedown.

Europe lost itself, Muhammed

UUUU

For you

We and China will stop them from obtaining nukes. That would be easy if USA won't protect them. We won't actually have to do it, the threat of Chienese and Russian troops will be enough, just like today with the threat of American troops.

I know you can only comprehend geopolitics when it is reduced to memes, reddit, but you should shut up if you don`t have anything even remotly relevant to add.

fantastic
suck our dicks world

I would like to see something like this take place as part of our improved relationship. Nobody likes those fuckers other than the filthy neocons in our government who need a good purging. It's something we can agree on.

NO ONE fucks with a country that has American troops in it. Prove me wrong.

America is well aware that Europe is not our friend. No one in America thinks Europe is our ally. You spit in our face while you shake our hand. This is how it's been for decades.

If all you have for threats are, "We will be even less a friend than we are now!", then I don't know what to tell you. America would also have no problems going to war with Europe (again) if you continue on with your absurd death march, allying with the muslim horde and communists.

This sounds like an amazing plan.

Good. Hopefully this means an end to American antagonism towards Russia, and an end to European expansion eastwards.

This could mean China gets control over east Asia, however, if the US decides to stop freely taking on South Korean, Japanese and to a certain extent Taiwanese security.

>while simultaneously shit talking America for being racist gun obsessed warmongers?

Foreign policy isn't dependent on what people write in the papers.

>Why are we in an alliance with these people?

To keep them on the American leash, NATO is an "empire by invitation".

>Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago?

Yes, but it still aids in expressing American power today.

>Why can't we make new allies? Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago?

The only countries who aren't US-aligned are: Russia, Iran, Syria, China and North Korea. Maybe some countries in Africa, but who gives a shit.

A US-Russia alliance could be possible, but would require pulling support for the EU (which I think is a good plan).

Good luck convincing any of the other countries.

>How do you feel about our first mobster president?

Kennedy was a pretty cool guy

Good, maybe it will force our shitty government to actually invest in our own military for once

ABSOLUTE
FUCKING
MAD
MAN

We'll always have you faggot's back. You're attached to our hip. Like our little retarded nephew below us.

I can never tell if you are really that retard, or think it is some masterpiece of trolling when burgers show that much disregard for anything political.

Imagine if we could together topple the Saudi king and Qatar emir. Occupy Mecca, bomb the wahhabi fuckers in Riyadh...

We'd fuck you and Europe up without taking a breath.

America and Russia allied could do amazing things. Like occupy mars in a decade,

WARREN G HARDING WAS OUR FIRST MOBSTER PRESIDENT, DUMMY

It wouldn't take much. We could do it ourselves easily enough if our people actually wanted to.

But maybe it's one of those things where we can start to make it part of the basis for a bigger global strategy in order to sort of realistically force the process along and set something into motion.

>America is well aware that Europe is not our friend.

France helped us "win" our revolutionary war, but only because the British admirals were drunken whoring gamblers who racked up huge debts at the tables

Well, congratulations, you've made me post. Now what's the next step in your master plan?

>Trump Wont Defend Allies Unless They Pay Up

good

Sliding this thread.
>With no survivors

Hes right.

Ever been to South Korea before? Americans are straight up not allowed to enter many businesses and are looked down upon, yet here we are spending billions on protecting their fucking country. And for what? Who gives a shit about North Korea? The Cold War is DEAD.

Fuck them, and fuck Europe too, who laugh at our way of life and military spending (so we can protect their faggot asses) while their surplus budgets from their own lack of military spending goes towards their own infrastructure and social programs.

Ive had enough. Fuck these faggots. Either put on your Big Boy Pants and learn to protect yourselves or fall to Darwinism.

I believe you Leftists love to claim "America is not the world police"- well, I agree. Were not. So good luck to you, youre going to need it.

Uh, you don't get to bring allies.

>and would leave us as vulnerable as the rest of the world to an even worse power taking over.
And that would be....? Putin likes him and China won't dare overstep their bounds

This is bad how?

We'll just get better allies, like Russia and China.

Eat shit the rest of the world.

>Just imagine what we could do if we all just become friends and work together
Truly suprising how you managed to sound exactly the same as diehard liberals a few decades ago.

Sure. Let`s ignore european nukes for a moment and assume you managed to take the continent over. Then you have to deal with occupying the second most densly populated continent or glass it, all the while managing the backlash from all around the world. And that`s not even taking into account the homefront.
But sure, a country that couldn`t even win against rice farmers armed with nothing but the oldest soviet arms could totally do that, if it makes you feel better about yourself.

pay the fuck up europe / build wall

>Trump also said that as president he will immediately act to undo President Obama’s executive actions on immigration reform and build the Keystone XL pipeline, with a hefty new tax on the corporations that benefit from it.

That won`t stop Putin from taking over whatever he can first chance he gets. That man has a single goal, and that`s restoring Russia to great power status. He wouldn`t think twice about grabing europe or the middle-east, if you serve them to him on a silver plate like that.

As for China, they are already overstepping their bounds, to use your phrasing. Or do you think they are claiming these islands just for fun?

>Western Europe hates you!
>REEEE WHY WONT YOU SPEND BILLIONS PROTECTING US????

Straight out the Krauts mouth. Whats the matter Kraut? Afraid youll have to actually grow some balls and spend that money used for your faggy little social programs on your own military infrastructure? Good, you should be. We know you hate us, and we are going to fuck you over for it so hard. You think the Refugee crisis is bad? Just wait until Trump gets into power and has his way with you. Life as you know it in Krautland is FINISHED.

china and russia are already nations that dont give a fuck about anything,
reminder, only the us are giddy about iran and iraq building their own nukes, other nations seems to dont give a fuck.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Sounds like a dangerous game.

On one hand every NATO country must be respecting the rules and spending 2% on military (right now it's only the UK, Estonia and maybe one or two others)


But this can fuck up the security order because some countries who don't feel threatened by anything will decide to just quit and leave those on the front lines weakened.

...

Wonderful. I've been sick of being the world's police for many years.

>That man has a single goal, and that`s restoring Russia to great power status
He wants the best for his country? Wow!

I'm sure the world can defend itself just fine without us.

Next thing you know you have to come to Europe and liberate it again at a great cost.

People take for granted and don't value peace and security until they lose it.

>Import shitskins
>They ruin country
>"It was all apart of our master plan"

"Geopolitics"

Good. We've been taken advantage of for far too long. They ask for help and then turn around and shit on us while doing so. Look at France and Eagles of Death Metal, those guys were our citizens, subjected to terrorist attacks on THEIR soil and they have the audacity to tell them they can't come back because they said mean things about the people who attacked them.

That's when you call the President of France and say "Do you actually want help with fighting terrorism or not? Because I can just let you deal with this yourself if you're going to treat my citizens like crap."

>Getting that butthurt about people pointing out facts
Are you that insecure?

Anyway, sure, the "contract" between the US and europe for the last 70 years or so has been that you finance our defense and we don`t do our own thing or cush up with the Soviets (now Russia, but for the balance of power that really isn`t relevant).

I don`t know why burgers get so butthurt the moment someone points out facts. Or do you really think stating the truth is an attack on someone?

Europe needs to be liberated right now.

>He wouldn`t think twice about grabing europe or the middle-east, if you serve them to him on a silver plate like that.
Maybe then Europe will finally value the work America puts into their countries and actually put it towards self defense

Good. No more free rides. Euros bitch about how we ran things, while we kept paying for them to be "Better" then us. Let them have their WWIII, Europe so dose like it's Global Wars, and dragging everyone else into em. Then bitching about it

I think you sharpened your edge too much

>butthurt butthurt butthurt
I'm just admiring him for being a leader that wants the best for his country.

I get that in Germanistan you were raised on the belief that liking your own country is a sin, but please stop forcing that belief on others.

Fuck them. Let's watch them burn so we can try and make an example out of them and "muh globalism"

Bullshit. People voted for retarded politicians but that will stop soon unless those politicians change their ways. It's clear that they understand it too.

I guess you'll have to cut back on all that "free" healthcare and schooling when you actually have to put some money up to protect yourself for once.

>But this can fuck up the security order because some countries who don't feel threatened by anything will decide to just quit and leave those on the front lines weakened.

Good I hope this happens. Weak countries that don't want to pay for their fair share of the defense alliance can be invaded for all I care.

>ITT: Buttmad Eurofags who will have to actually confront rapefuges and tell them there is no more money for them because they need more tanks.
I bet you won't even look them in the eyes.

You pretty much did the same, a few centuries ago. Come back when we get our Ferguson, our niggers taking over colleges and when our babies are majority minorites.
All that is happening in the US right now.


I agree. It`s just doubtful that it would be to your advantage.

Your passive-aggressive tone dosn`t really work in your favor when calling others butthurt.

>thinking the EU dictatorship is going to give control back to the people
I hope Russia takes them over.

That's liberal logic.

>People need to do things for me out of the kindness of their own heart, because it would be a nice thing to do!

>But I don't have to do anything for anyone else because I'm oppressed and in need.

As you see, it leads to the "exploited" being quite exploitative themselves.

Actually we are. The Constitution says we have to defend our allies like they are ourselves. The Founders put that in there because America was trying to make friends in it's early days and tried to say "Yall help us kick Britians ass and we got your back later!"

It's kind of fucking us over now.

Pay up and you won't lose it.

Yep. So it's time to say, pay up, or go fight among yourselves. We've done our part, then their part. Fucking done

It's bullshit that the EU is a dictatorship somehow. People voted like idiots, that's the problem.

Russia with allies is where the oppressive family dictatorships are on our continent. I don't want that shit to spread.

>World leaders trying to tell Americans who to elect
>Literally shitting their pants right now

and this is bad how?

>The Constitution says we have to defend our allies like they are ourselves
What? No it doesn't.

The EU is full of unelected bureaucrats. The only hope for it falling peacefully is Brexit happening and then the rest of the EU collapsing financially.

More of an Implying thing, you have our backs, we've got yours. Europe turned its back on us, and left us open, while bitching we are monsters, etc. Honor use to be a good bond. Now it's being used instead. No damn honor among our allies, just GibsmeDat and protectsmeplox

USA
>Import sub human slaves
>Cucked libtards arise
>"Dey ppl to"
>Set free
>Country goes to sit

Libtards: "Much better"

EU
>Cucked Libtards
>"Muh dyvercity"
>Import shitskins
>Country goes to shit

Libtards: "Much better"

>It`s just doubtful that it would be to your advantage
Geopolitically what sense would it make to protect people who don't like us, won't pay us back and challenge our way of life every chance they get, just because of some cold war bogeyman.

We're hemmoraging money because you fucks can barely afford your socialist lifestyle, so fuck you we need to recooperate.

They violated the treaties by not paying. They reneged. We have every right to withdraw our forces if they don't feel they're worth the cost.

You don't know what you're talking about. You don't vote for every secretary in your stupid African government, do you? It's the same in the EU. Elected officials appoint some bureaucrats to do stuff.

Ayy. Liberals are the cancer that is killing the west.

We (as in germoney) are actually making a surplus. We are fucking over pretty much everyone else in the process, but we are more than cable of picking up. It`s just that nobody really wants to.

It's called leverage. Every single one of these countries will pay up. Why? For the same reason as Mexico, its much cheaper to just pay. It would cost way more if they actually had to defend themselves.

It just says that the President has the power to sign treaties/alliances with foreign nations with 2/3rds of senate approval. Nothing about being nice or whatever. Of course, we are free to shred up stuff.

I vote for all of my local/state officials and politicians. I would agree that the US federal government has too much bureaucracy, but it's not nearly as bad as the EU.

Your show now, Germany. Have fun.

>Leaving europe in germanys hand
I don't know what could go wrong at all

>FUCKING AMERICA WORLD POLICE WHY WONT YOU GUYS GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRIES YOU FUCKING IMPERIALISTS
>HOW DARE YOU THREATEN TO NOT DEFEND US FOR FREE ANYMORE YOU EVIL ISOLATIONISTS
This is the logic of entitlement, this is what happens when America doesn't exert its will.

Hence, the inply. We say, although it's not written down, just so we can shred it if we need to. And we need to

>. I would agree that the US federal government has too much bureaucracy, but it's not nearly as bad as the EU.
It's much worse in the USA because you live in a real federation. Meaning, dirt poor Alabama gets the same pensions, medicare payments, etc as New York. It's not like that in the EU with most things.

Not our problem. Europe says we suck at it, etc. Let's see what will happen

Good it time we stop being the worlds baby sitter, if you dont support us why the fuck should we support you?

You don't elect the people who write the laws and regulations for the entire EU. They are completely unaccountable, most people don't even know who they are. You don't see that as a problem? Do you not see how easily a system like this would be corrupted by financial interests? You know, like Facebook and Twitter.