Do you think porno has anything to do with

How sedentary makes have become in the USA? I personally am pretty fucked up by porno. I rely on it tremendously because without it I am borderline suicidal. With it, I am just depressed. I would love to quit it but nothing can replace it. I am not fit for a girlfriend or wife. The only option is porno. I feel sickened by it sometimes but it's necessary.

Why is porno so powerful?

You're just looking for the wrong scapegoat. The reason you can't find a suitable wife is because of the jews.

Don't blame the symptoms, blame the disease.

Because that is how powerful the need for sex and human bonding is


Preferring masturbation to sex is a sign of PDD, and if not, it is extremely narcisstic.

Achmed, please go

Just fuck hookers instead of looking at porn. You'll feel better about yourself, and get to touch a girl since judging by your post you don't usually.

Porn is evil, yes. But you must fill it something else while you're still addicted.

>Hookers
>Working out
>Learning something new

it's not just porn it's the whole internet

this site, youtube is just info-porn

facebook is the equivalent of porn for women, etc

THE ENTIRE INTERNET IS A WEAPON TO ENSLAVE YOU, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INTERNET FREEDOM, THE INTERNET IS DEGENERATE

DARPA created it to subdue you. make no mistake, it's not in the interest of your controllers to censor the net, that's a ruse to keep you fighting for your own hedonistic degeneracy.

China censors the net and they're beating us.

internet forums are to non-sexual bonding and friendship as porn is to sex. No difference, just a different version of the same thing

I have literal Aspergers and I was this way long before I ever used porn or even knew what sex was. I still think porn is evil but it's not why I'm antisocial, it's the other way around. I just don't even know how to read people at all and know I'm completely undesirable to women. I've even had one relationship so I'm not speaking out my ass as a virgin neet or something. I'm working on quitting porn for my own sanity but not because it will magically give me social skills.

You are already halfway to resolving your problem. You've already identified the problems but you have made the realization. I don't know you or I would be able to offer more precise suggestions but you identified your problems as depression and body image. Because I don't know you I am unable to tell you whether it is more likely that your depression has led to your body issues or whether your body issues have led to your depression. Whatever the case, you lack confidence. The good news is that you have identified the reason why. That is half the battle. Now you need to realize it. Embrace it. Face it. Deal with it.

The problem appears to be either that you haven't realized it or subconsciously you do realize but you are unwilling to act on it. To act on it means to embrace a disciplined lifestyle. Early to bed, early to rise. Avoid porn, whatever it takes. Delete every porn-related pic, vid, and link you have saved. Be honest with yourself. Find a simple diet you like and stick to it daily. Find a form of exercise you like and stick to it daily (gym, trainer, pushups and situps, jogging, biking, hiking, whatever. Just do it). Exercise alone will naturally and dramatically reduce your depression. Couple that with a healthy diet and you will feel better in short order. Stick to it and you will see your body change in the mirror. That is when the confidence will return.

Stop blaming outside influences. You already know what the problem is and you have everything you need to change it towards a positive direction. Do it, user. Do it now.

>been porn addicted
>at some point say enough
>try to get a gf
>manage to talk to some girl online
>send pics to each other
>she has no idea about how to be sexy enough to give me a boner
>can't keep up pretending to have interest
>drop her like a hot potato and go back to watching porn
>she annoys me all day on my phone

Something tells me all woman are like that, hell why is it so hard to find a good girl?

>>sexting with a girl through a screen instead of meeting her first

>>not waiting for marriage

absolutely degenerate

I hate porn but I also hate the anti-porn people who say casual sex is a suitable alternative. They miss the whole point. Marriage, celibacy or bust.

Everyone is now jerking off to their own ego rather than jerking off to actual pornography.

Because your expectations of an average woman are that of what an actress in a porno would give. So unless you date a porn bunny or quit porn altogether, odds are you'll never get what you're looking for.

you're right, internet forums are just verbal masturbation.

How else am I going to cum?
All I want is to stick my Dick in a girl who knows how to be sexy.

So I shouldn't even bother with dating?
Why are woman so shit?

>why is it so hard to find a good girl?

Because you are trying to find one online. Girls aren't something you browse. You need to go out and socialize. I've met two girlfriends just from shopping in a supermarket. I met one from hanging out at a cafe during lunch breaks. I met one from going to the same bar weekend after weekend. I volunteered one day a week to help out at a rehab center for senior citizens and ended up meeting a really cute nurses assistant there, my current gf. You have to go out and meet the ladies, and you need to have patience, like fishing in the ocean.

Porn is one thing, but what about romantic hentai?
How do you kick that when it gives you so much emotional support?

Don't spend a long time dating or cohabiting. Marry for life and learn to deal with real commitment. Then you can stick your dick as much as you want. Don't fall for the soul-mate meme either though, you just need a woman decent enough to be a good mother to your future children. romantic love doesn't form a stable marriage, that's a big hollywood lie that a lot of people don't realize.

You need to unfuck your perceptions. Drop the porn, go outside and meet actual women instead of fantasy ones. Attempt dialogue. Begin to understand how male-female interaction actually works.

>Because your expectations of an average woman are that of what an actress in a porno would give. So unless you date a porn bunny or quit porn altogether, odds are you'll never get what you're looking for.

Y'know most women give head and take it up the ass occasionally now, grampa.

There's no great dividing line between porn and reality until you're watching baby fisting beastiality on a regular basis.

that's just pathetic

Some people here are genuinely autistic. I know for a fact I was completely socially retarded as a kid without porn. I'm starting to seriously consider a (truly) celibate life.

Why?
Porn fulfills a sexual need, romantic hentai and literature fulfills an emotional need too.

Kind of like when you're in the wild and come across a bear, you have to make yourself look bigger to be more intimating and scare the bear away, except replace bear with lefties who think their opinions matter and is correct, the more screaming they are doing the more you can tell they are losing the argument.

just use ur imagination man :^)

Sup Forums fullfills an emotional/social need for most people here.

Gee...

it's not just lefties. Every single 4channer can hide behind the screen and pretend they're better than they are in reality. How do you even know if a "Right winger" you're speaking to isn't fapping to femdom as they post? You don't

I worry that anonymity is corrosive to society and ironically, real identity might be healthier if it wasn't abused to push liberal bias

You and only you, are the source of all your problems. Stop blaming external forces and accept that. Once you do, you can finally improve yourself.

Yeah I get my social needs from Sup Forums, more or less.

what?

In my case it doesn't come close to interacting with someone face to face.
Here I can easily think twice before posting and it doesn't really seem genuine

I was just using lefties as an example but you're correct it could basically be anyone in this predicament. Do you think this problem could be why birth rates are falling so low in countries? Getting false likes and shit for a photo probably sends some kind of pleasing stimulant to your brain which mirrors a similar kind of thing that happens when you masturbate, you've basically got a whole generation of people doing this and who would rather be trying to make themselves look good in the virtual world rather than attempting to fix themselves in reality except nobody pays any heed to it since internet addiction and social media addiction are pretty much laughed at compared to other larger addictions like drugs, alcohol, pornography, etc. The entire thing is kind of similar to the "Beautiful people" scenario from the Rat City experiment.

Porn is pathetic, anything a man does can be related back to sex, if a man becomes more intelligent for example he does it subconsciously to impress women and attract pussy etc, watching porn short circuits this so basically you watch porn then your brain thinks it is a pussy destroying stud and doesn't need to improve, simple evolutionary theory

I don't know anyone IRL so you fags are all I got.

You're missing the point Sven. Not -all- of them do. He's got to look for qualities beside the physical if he wants a decent relationship. If he just wants a fuckbuddy that's something he'll have to go look for too. Or he can simply fap forever, never procreate and be an endling for his genetic line like a little bitch.

>grandpa
>tfw 31 is grandfatherly

Dopamine probably

What's the matter frenchie? Have Ali and Baadir taken all of your women already?

Nope I just have no social skills.

Many of the greatest men of all though did not put in all their work impress women. The best scientists and philosophers were celibate. The average man needs sex to motivate them but the few amazing ones can reject it all entirely

Try to improve them?

few and far between though, they where celibate because it allowed them to channel that stored up sexual tension to their work, this is why fapping every day is also degenerate

>Why is porno so powerful?
It's not.

Too late I'm 28.

You can always try.

Pretty much. I'm guessing you've finally made the connection between jacking off and feeling tired and not wanting to do shit? It wasn't as noticeable when you were young, but now that you're older its effects are impossible to ignore.

It's like multiculturalism: you don't notice the deleterious effects until its too late. I have a couple sons, and you better believe I'm going to teach them the negative effects of jacking your dick too much. Save that shit for the woman you love and release that energy through exercise and creative enterprises.

It is for the degenerate faggots addicted to it

It's good to have decent enough social skills to not be a complete shut in but it's a mistake to validate yourself via women or other people.

If you're the antisocial type it may be better to master some other skill to compensate, like music , art, programming, building things etc.

If you're a sperg who actually does great things you'll be more attractive to women naturally, and if not you'll at least feel self-actualized for accomplishing something yourself.

That's why I'd advise autists to do something creative on their own instead of trying to invert themselves and become obsessed with socialization as their value

I used to think it was only that, then I stopped fapping for 2 weeks, felt a little bit better but really I realized it was internet use in general that saps my energy. Sup Forums is so addictive I'll forget about porn and even video games just to come back here. Even back when I fapped daily at the start of college I was getting straight A's, my performance didn't really start to fall until I came to the chans regularly

It might be endearing to be socially awkward and shy if you're 17, not if you're reaching middle age.
Trust me people have no patience for it.
If you miss out on that whole developmental period where socially well adjusted people learn to make new friends and experiment with sex and dating then you're fucked for life, there's no second chance to get all that out of the way. Nobody is going to teach you how to kiss or tolerate your bullshit on dates or make extra effort to be friends with you, you will just be seen as bad at those things and people won't bother, because it's stuff they learned when they were kids.

I guess I'm glad I had one gf when I was 18-19 even though we never had actual sex. At least I'm not kissless and handholdless.

Also, shyness is suddenly attractive to women if you get fit and go outside more even if you're alone when you do it.

Porn actresses look mostly wretched, visiting a porn mainpage you see fatties, grannies and flatties. If we talk about Playboy Magazine, yeah, that's some high standards, but porn? Nah. It's pretty clear men have too low standards and women disproportionally high, pic related. I think he just didn't find her attractive, even if he thought she was on his level. Maybe he lowered his standards to a level where he can't function sexually.

stop being a narcissistic, pessimistic autist for christ sake, go get a breadstick or something to cheer you up

your distorted standards from porn aren't about looks, they're about acts. I agree the visual expectations aren't the main problem.

Porn conditioned you to want a woman who goes right to sex instead of building up slowly. It got you to want and validate women who in real life are whores.

>do nofap
>more energy
>more focus
>more lonely
>have to wank because loneliness was making me depressed

Don't notice it when I'm swamped with work (forester), but when in desk bound or have nothing distracting me it's torture


Pic is you

Tfw on Friday night I have a few beers with my 4change friends

>tfw never in my life had any romantic experimentations with puppy love as a young'un
>tfw no girl has ever loved me

I'm doomed to loneliness in oblivion aren't I? I'll never know what it's like, and if I do I'll be so bad I'll push them away.

Not everyone is mentally ill like you. Lifting and fitness are becoming more trendy among males in the US.

Nofap is good but don't fall into the reddit crowd who assumes it alone will suddenly give you superpowers and make you not autistic.

I'm to lazy to go out, also its easier to impress some cunt from a poorer country via the internet so she might be sucking my dick with more motivation.

>giving half my shit to some cunt

LOL i'm from a cucked country, but I'm not a cuck ya know

I don't want to talk about random daily shit with her, I want to fuck her and then fuck her again later.
Woman are not good company, they're accessories.

All I want is a girl that knows how to get my dick hard, but they all behave like dudes nowadays which is absolutely unattractive to me

Play Katawa Shoujo. Gives me motivation to exercise and run. Do this for 6 months, get to 8% bodyfat and can run a marathon at a decent time. Also swim so end up with a swimmer body.

Still can't get a gf, over the year I gain back the wait and stop exercises.

Still read Katawa Shoujo from time to time.

Life isn't like a romantic game. Maybe, I'm just too autistic. Being 27 is too late to be honest.

you're the cuck here.

I agree modern marriage is a shitshow though but you don't have much choice, and casual sex is far more degenerate.

I don't know if it's possible to go through the same process of learning and experimentation above a certain age that would allow you to interact with people in the same way everyone else does.

I guess hookers could teach you how to kiss and have sex and things like that in order to impress a potential partner, but it sounds pretty miserable, and even then you'd be lacking the social skills to approach them in the first place.

Maybe it's women who conditioned men to go slowly? Especially if the man doesn't make her wet in the first minutes. Women would let her fuck you in the bathroom or store room if you're her "type".

I thought more about a relationship for a month or two or something.

I fuck her til i'm bored and then move on to the next one, but even finding one I want to fuck is hard even tho I can get hotties.
They just don't have that sexyness to them.

I think at this age it's better to focus on yourself instead of validating your whole existence socially. Accomplish something on your own first and exercise for yourself, not for women. You'll be happier as a 30 year old virgin autist who made something great than a burnt out pickup artist who ends up empty inside

pretty much. if you're a 9/10 or 10/10 they will do whatever you say. there is no "if" about it.

and all good looking men are their "type".

I agree, I'm explaining it wrong.

In the past men would commit right away and get married. Modern "dating" is a joke like you say and romantic love isn't real love.

The problem is modern society retards development and blocks younger marriage due to the whole school/career obsession. I dated an Indian girl , and believe me, I came to realize arranged marriage isn't bad at all by learning about her relatives.

You may be right.
Perhaps if you make yourself successful then friends and partners may be drawn to you because of that, and forgive your social immaturity.

Glad i married my high school sweetheart

26 currently.
I might have been forever alone if i didnt meet her early.

But who knows. Maybe not. Maybe i would have been even better off. Nah. Im happy enough where im at desu senpai. But you never know..

You only get 1 spin on the wheel of life. Good luck anons.

>Too ugly for girls
>be 26 and want sex bad
>try to talk to girls
>"eww"
>HKV
>tfw you need experience to get girls
>you need a gf for experience
>tfw porno is a rock and it has been for a long time

The larger problem is the Internet. People with porn and video game addictions really just have used the Internet their whole developmental lives to fulfill basic human needs like belonging, social interaction and cumming. Take that person and throw them into adulthood and they don't know SHIT about being a person and wanting things like a rewarding career and family, since they can go into their e-heroin world whenever they want.

Delete your steam account, stop going on Sup Forums stop jerking off and start lifting weights.

Stop listening to the underage b& shitposters on Sup Forums, porn is great especially the gay stuff.

>stop going on Sup Forums
Remember, you're here forever.

probably right about that

>How sedentary makes have become in the USA? I personally am pretty fucked up by porno. I rely on it tremendously because without it I am borderline suicidal.

The alt-right, ladies and gentlemen.

>Just fuck hookers instead of looking at porn. You'll feel better about yourself

Amazing advise Sup Forums keep 'em coming

Better that than being completely unaware of degeneracy like the left.

I mean honestly I think about quitting fapping all the time, shaping up, making myself better, going out and being social, meeting girls, dating, etc. But then I remember how I have a small dick. And I say fuck it, and go back to being a fucking loser with no friends and no prospects. It's easier that way. I'll never be able to be happy, because I'll never satisfy a woman. That's just how it had to be.

I'm trying user...I really am. It's got me good.

How long does it take to "rewire" the brain so your beliefs on human sexuality are back to where they should be?

I've heard the 1 month figure thrown here and there, but seems kind of short to me. 1 month no porn is easymode.

At this point I use Sup Forums addiction to replace porn addiction. It's still a tiny step up at least. Also I don't think it will be as much of a problem when I start my first full time job in a month. I might eventually leave my computer at work 2-3 days a week.

You forfeit the right to call people degenerate when the only thing keeping you alive in the world is compulsively fapping to tranny porn.

After all, the enduring legacy of the alt-right will be they popularised a porn search term (cuck) into the political lexicon, taking society one step deeper into the gutter in the process, and nothing more.

>where they should be

Here's your problem.

Probably never. That's the cold hard truth. You can never erase memories that fucked you in adolescence, only reduce it and at least be able to enjoy normal sex as well. Some people are really damaged to the point where they should accept celibacy and just forget marriage altogether .

>THE ENTIRE INTERNET IS A WEAPON TO ENSLAVE YOU

This one probably has mental health issues.

are you me?

What's your point? are you just a leftist trying to trigger Sup Forums?

The problem is the current social dynamic is not "where it should be" either, at least as far as courtship and sex go.
If you revert to your natural instincts those won't be any more relevant.
I feel like you can only grasp this weird dating culture through direct experience of it.

>I have literal Aspergers and I was this way long before I ever used porn or even knew what sex was. I still think porn is evil but it's not why I'm antisocial, it's the other way around. I just don't even know how to read people at all and know I'm completely undesirable to women. I've even had one relationship so I'm not speaking out my ass as a virgin neet or something. I'm working on quitting porn for my own sanity but not because it will magically give me social skills.

You're on the wrong board r9k

So are you leftypol

Staying off Sup Forums would help too I think. Good advice.

You're coming here to inflate your own ego, so you're no better

>she has no idea about how to be sexy enough to give me a boner

What?

>Everyone is now jerking off to their own ego rather than jerking off to actual pornography.

Deeeeep, man. Pass the kush.

That's exactly what you're doing right now.

Imagine all that but being stuck in the Emirate of Britistan - this is my hell.

>How else am I going to cum?
>All I want is to stick my Dick in a girl who knows how to be sexy.

I like how you've reduced the sexual act purely down to it's mechanics. Can't tell autistic of just German.

>So I shouldn't even bother with dating?

You'd probably get more satisfaction with a hobby that doesn't involve women (or most men un-interested in the hobby)

>You have to go out

You seem to be at the wrong place

>romantic hentai

>White "people"