This destroys the liberal

>this destroys the liberal

_loud cricket noises

_scrunched up Hillary brochure tumbles past

_cricket noises get louder

>posting that one minute exception of this fixing a problem

go back

Ahh so lives are worth saving, except for in the “one minute exception”?

Why bother caring about lives at all if you’re not going to encompass the importance of ALL lives

...and baits the cuckservative...

>projecting this hard because our lax gun laws let another massacre occur
get fucked retard. I voted Trump and even I can see this shit is insane.

Damn these crickets are over whelmingly noisey

>lax gun laws

>gun free zone
>mandatory background checks
>lax

I don't have the citation on me right now (phone) but in total there are more shootings stopped with guns as opposed to shootings that are carried out to completion. Also if this is an exception, how would that same complaint not apply to a malevolent shooter who is but an absolute minute minority compared to legal gun owners?

another handgun related crime
>better ban assault weapons

Sup Forums is being slided right mow bump

>not even bothering to read before posting absolute bullshit
He used an ar-15

after 2 are already dead lul

Two days ago a fag with a ccw, Killed someone accidentally in my city.

Reminder that in every other developed nation nobody even has to worry about some cunt pulling a gun out and starting a massacre.
It's literally only you yanks and fuckin' Iraq where this shit happens.

Reminder that you're a liar and/or stupid. The worst mass shootings by far have all occurred in Europe. Paris currently tops the list IIRC.

Frequency over volume lmao, even eurofags don't get shot up every fucking month. Fuckin' christ I love how deluded yanks are about what an actual shithole/dangerous "autist could snap at any moment" climate they live in. Must suck to suck tbh

I didn't vote for Trump but it's funny how he somehow gets blamed for everything. No wonder no one takes this shit seriously it's because instead of blaming the perp everyone wants to point fingers at literally anything else

Well to be fair you yanks DID elect a borderline retarded reality TV star as your president and he's made you the laughing stalk of every single other country save for north korea which is equally as funny.
I fucking love Americans so much, they live up to every single "shart in mart, dumb cunt" stereotype.

Du bist deutscher oder? Ich bin 100% sicher

I remember when this happened. I used to go to that mall a lot

Around 1000 eurofags are murdered with firearms every year. Your media just isn't hyping it because you don't have any rights left to take.

I used to know the kid I lived in the apartments right next to him I know it's pretty unbelievable but he was really quiet and he was always either outside alone or inside doing something. I moved last year so I have no problem telling you guys where the place is but it's 2 minutes walking away from the Clackamas town center. it's a government funded area or "projects" and it's right across from the la salle highschool his mom died 3 years ago too. she took up drinking and smoking after he did that shit

Completion? Is there a fuckin checklist?

Either you shoot someone not partaking in a pistol duel, or you don't. Pretty much every time a gun goes off and hits an unsuspecting target, you already done goofed.

>laughing stalk
Never call anyone else retarded.

>SEE SEE, IF EVERYONE HAS GUNS THEN GUN VIOLENCE WILL STOP
>WHAT, WHO CARES THAT SOMEONE WAS ACTUALLY SHOT TO DEATH, HE WAS A BAD GUY WITH EASY ACCESS TO 0-SKILL KILLING MACHINES, GUN VIOLENCE WIIIIIIINNNNNNNSSSSSS ALL HAIL OUR GLORIOUS NRA OVERLORDS

Fuck off.

It does, our children are dying every week in our schools from this shit. 18 mass shootings so far this year. Check 'em. Gun rights are not absolute - read Scalia. Reasonable people should be able to agree that state regulated licencing; a national criminal background/mental health background database; mandatory background checks; closing private sale and show loopholes; mandatory 7 day waiting period; banning auto/semi-automatic modification paraphernalia; banning of violent offenders, previous gun possession offenders, violent/psychotic mental health patients; the banning of assault weapons are all reasonable steps to take to limit gun accessibility on a national level that also allows hunters and sportsmen to lawfully and transparently exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

Rights such as my child potentially getting shot up in a school/shopping mall once a month (if the crazy faggot quota is low)? lmao you yanks absolutely slay me.

Imagine being this fucking OBSESSED

Everything on that list that is reasonable is already implemented.

I lold

oooh, burn. or not. 1000 total a year in Europe? Try 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015. They have a much better track record and a much more pressing issue of direct geographical access from Islamist militants.

and the mainstream media won't touch this beyond local news.

Rights such as having the means to prevent the next genocide. Dozens of deaths will always be better than millions.

...until some retard shoots up a school every month even with that in place LOL

"During that time, Nick Meli, a concealed carry permit holder, drew his Glock 22, claimed to have taken aim at Roberts, but did not fire since there was a bystander behind Roberts." So, he claimed it, thus unverified. Even if he did, he did nothing.

I refuse to believe that yanks can be this delusional, like I know you're an absolute joke to everyone else so this might be ironic but still

No, it's not. Gun show and private sake loopholes exist. The shooter today bought his gun at a private sale. No background check required. Mental health records are deemed private unless a direct threat is made. That needs to change so that someone with a recognized diagnosis from a professional can be placed on a no-buy list. There is no mandatory 7 day period in many states and gun shows/private sales are not regulated in the same way. Semi-auto/auto modification paraphernalia (bump stocks, instructions on modifications) are readily available, some states do not regulate actively unless a crime is committed with the specific weapon in question. Do your research. The laws exist in some places, but not all. The laws are enforced haphazardly in some places if at all. I also am of the belief that like cars, gun licences must be renewed and a mandatory gun safety course and test should be a blanket national requirement, gun licencees must carry insurance for each weapon owned and ammunition should be sold through state-licensed vendors, similar to alcohol sales.

The EU has a lower homicide rate in general. There is no correlation between total homicide or suicide rate and gun ownership. The lying media obscures this fact by constantly comparing firearm homicides, hyping mass shootings, and refusing to report self defense incidents.

The delusion is thinking anything else.

can anyone give me a clear motive on the reason behind or the agenda with these shooting that are happening so fast, is there a link between them or is it all over the place plz respond brainsenpai

>>>Laughing Stalk

Those are the unreasonable things from your first list. In particular, there's already a system for people deemed mentally incompetent to be produced from owning firearms. It requires a court order to remove someone's fundamental council rights in this fashion. The suggestion that anything less should be sufficient is absolutely insane. So insane, in fact, that it's saner to talk about killing anyone who would attempt to implement such a policy.

check the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence and Development and the data from the UNODC - compare EU rates and ours, or even Canadian rates and ours. Per capita rates are much higher. Gun laws are a major factor, unless you wanna say more people are murdered because we don't have universal healthcare.

Produced=prohibited

Reminder that in your "developed nation" your government will arrest you for a tweet. I'll take mass shootings that kill less people on average than lighting strikes over your shitty 1984 utopia any day.

Yes, rates are higher in the US. But there is absolutely no evidence that it has anything to do with gun laws.

did a project on this back in hs. At the time, if someone wit a gun stopped a killer, 2 people died on average. If they waited for police response, 14 were killed on average. Numbers don't lie

Freedom >>> safety
Slave niggers who wish for chains can gtfo
/thread

I remember when this happened. Turned out he pussied out and made it up later.

Except that this barely ever happens. Some cunt getting arrested for sperging out on twitter is much better than a kid grabbing his dads guns and shooting up other people. How do you yanks live day to day knowing that some autist could snap at any minute and shoot up your public spaces?

hyperbolic bollocks. Read your originalists and learn about where our rights start and end. Unfettered access is not a right enshrined in the Constitution. The government may restrict rights in the interest of public safety so long as the intent of the original text is followed. You may not possess a nuclear weapon as the public good outweighs your right to possess and bear that arm. Restrictions on types of guns and on classes of people are normal in our society and enshrined in the text of the governing documents. Have a judge sign off, sure, but there needs to be a mechanism that is efficient and available.

Hes british

/thread
cuckservatives eternally BTFO

>Gun show and private sake loopholes exist.
i hate when people lump these together. Every time i've bought a gun at a gun show i had to pay for a bgc. the "gun show loophole" is just a private sale "loophole". There are private non ffl people who sell their guns at guns. They are not required to do a bgc per sale. A benefit to this is that its pretty dame save to sell a gun privately in a gun show. no one will try any thing stupid. Only way to fix the "loophole" is allow people other than ffls to phone in a bgc to the atf. But that will never happen because that's an invasion of privacy. But in states that issues concealed carry permits you can pretty much vet anyone you sell to by mentioning in the ad that you will only sell to permit holders.

Because I have a gun to shoot back with you irresponsible safe space needing child. This attitude is why you eurocucks are so fucking pathetic, and will degrade into the socialist tyrannical hell you all deserve. My ancestors died to keep me free, and I'm willing to make the same sacrifice. Now go back to sucking police state dick you fucking spineless coward.

i was raised a country gunfag and even i am now on the line of banning all military style assault weapons, which i once owned several of.

point is, right to bear arms /= right to cause harm. i'd rather have a lever or bolt action rifle than a semi auto, because in reality how many bears or deer are going to come at you at once?

and if you say you need guns to protect you from people or the government, just what are you doing in your life to anticipate attack? 99% of people live just fine without being armed. You're just trying to justify a lifestyle that glorifies armed response to otherwise solvable problems.

tldr; if you are living a life where you NEED assault weapons, odds are you're the problem, not the solution.

YOU = FAGGOT

My rights start and end where I say they do and have the means to enforce.

The 2A doesn't apply to WMDs because they are as useless to a rebellion as they are against a rebellion. The original intent of the 2A is to guarantee access to small arms comparable to those used by the military and police, and this will always be necessary to ensure our freedom.

fuck off fudd.

>need a gun because some autistic fuck will probably pull a gun on me
as opposed to
>5 people shot because some muzzie bought an illegal gun and was immediately shot down by police as he hasn't used guns in is entire life given that it isn't prevalent in this culture

Keep having monthly shootings of children though you walking jokes lmao

The 2A was never about bears or deer. It's about killing cops and soldiers when the government goes bad.

>and if you say you need guns to protect you from people or the government, just what are you doing in your life to anticipate attack? 99% of people live just fine without being armed. You
're just trying to justify a lifestyle that glorifies armed response to otherwise solvable problems.

Dumbass, it's not about YOU, it's about the 5th generation down the line who needs the right to defend themselves when shit goes haywire. History repeats itself, and it will be needed again. It gives the people teeth and makes it a billion times harder to bring about tyranny. Again, maybe not in our lifetimes, but it WILL be needed in the future.

everyone here getting their panties in a bunch and I just finished wiping the Hoppes #9 off my M1 kek

no.

probably the best and most respectable response i've heard from the other side tonight.

that argument is fundamentally flawed because who makes up our military? who are the people who design the military hardware? who are the people who make up the backbone of the federal government?

regular citizens, just like you and me. and if you think they could be so easily deluded into declaring war on their own people, you may as well be speaking to the poorness of your own judgement.

This x1000
Literally muh freedom, I will take it to the fucking grave. I'd rather die by my principals than live on my knees. That's what separates humanity from the dogs you pathetic useless cucks.

so if you are indeed a time traveler with proof of what will happen in the future.. i assume you will give us the proof... or else shut the fuck up.

...

The past you fucking brainlet. Go read some history, human nature doesn't change. Maybe you'll finally understand your grandiose communist utopias ALWAYS FAIL

Are you delusional? 1,000 die in the whole fucking Eu but when America kills 13 times as much your response is " people get killed less in europe"


my sides.

thanks dude. I can definitely sympathize with both sides, but things ain't like what they used to be, you know?

>36000 shootings annually
>only 300 are in self defense

maybe once a year a man stops a mass shooting.

sadly gun owners have lost their right possess guns. it won't be dems or republicans who come for your guns, it will be the government.

you're too dangerous. you kill too many people. you lost that right. you started shooting up Pre Schools.

80% of America wants some sort of gun control. It's time.

This is a level, mature, intellectual and wise response.

Why can't America think like this?

I'm a time traveler from rome, who can indeed confirm, that although the mindless retards said otherwise, rome was not eternal.

If you don't think people can turn viciously against their closest neighbors over ideological differences, you are ignorant of psychology, history, and current events.

these hicks actually believe their littledick guns will defend against any actual military/government. assuming any government gives a shit about bumfuck nowhere forgotten middle america anyway.

>sadly gun owners have lost their right possess guns.
wrong

If I'm wrong then why is a less supplied, worse trained, and undepopulated shithole in a desert still causing issues for the entire force of nato.

Firearms are used in self defense about 60,000 times a year, and that's by the DOJ's conservative estimate. Not all defensive uses result in killing someone, but they don't have to.

when also in the past have we had ICBMs, the world wide web, and surveillance satellites? if you can name it I will certainly acquiesce to their wisdom as being 100% applicable to modern times.

>thinking you have a say about it

tell it to the A-10 or the Spooky gunship boy.

lol there aren't 60,000 shootings per year

there are 1100000000 mass shootings per year and 1000000000000000000 kids die

No, it isn't. It's an ignorant response dressed up as wisdom.

And the cavemen said, when have we had sticks, and the Egyptians said, when have we had chariots, and the Romans said, when have we had roads these good, and the British Empire said, when have we had muskets, and on and on and on

yew won't take muh guns, ah will only let yew infringe on mah gun rights if it tramples others rights!

>the GOP has banned assault rifles in the past and high cap mags
>you infringe felons' rights re guns

there's a precedence to infringe gun rights in place. banning them won't be a problem :)

nor will taking them from your cold dead hands.

you watch too much tv my friend.

humans are social by nature. yes we harbor prejudices and etc, but in real life we tend to adjust to whatever is beneficial to us, which is generally NOT declaring war on our neighbors unless shit is extremely bad.

stop living in hype and think for yourself.

OMG You sound so brave and heroic!! Fucking larpers. Jeezus christ go be a suicide stat will ya, you're dumbing down the entire country..

After 15 years of war, the US military has been unable to defeat an estimated 50,000 illiterate opium farmers with "littledick guns". There are 60 million gun owners in the US. There are more legally registered machine guns in private hands than there are in the Army. How do you think the military would fare against even 1 million angry gun owners? And that's before you even consider that probably 1/4 to 1/3 of the military would side with the people.

The military wouldn't last two days against American gun owners. That's exactly why they're trying to chip away at our right to own them.

>nor will taking them from your cold dead hands.

Glad we've reached an understanding, now shall we get this party started?
May the best armed win.

that's between you and the US Military/LEA.

and then Einstein said "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

because dumbasses like you would willingly wipe out our entire human civilization to prove a point about how barbaric we are.

I will, when I drive a bulldozer thorough them while they're sitting on the tarmac... and then go have a beer with their pilots.

Fucking joke.. the government can at any time say fuck off to you and your pew pew collection. You honestly believe the 2A protects you from the same government that provides it to you.. Fucking thick aren't ya boy?

LOL What a homo..Bet you already spend most of your time on your knees anyway, stop being all dramatic.

Didn't say there were. (Though there probably are at least that many, since most of the 10K or so firearm homicides are handguns, and onky something like 1 out of every 8 people shot with handguns actually die from it.)