Noam Chomsky

How does pol feel about chomsky?

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(((chomsky)))

Even he thinks the SJWs are ridiculous.

Lmao

Pretty sure he's Jewish.

Of course he does. Someone who has been criticizing Israel for decades knows all about how identity politics can be used to subvert peace and freedom.

Literally the most boring speaker on the planet.

Noam

More like Gnome

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Noam_Chomsky#Views_on_globalization
Can't disagree with him on that...
Can't disagree with him on a lot of things I guess.
I'm sure he triggers Sup Forums for some reason; but we're ridiculous too.

Based as fuck

Chomsky, like Sanders has acknowledged the banker elite as the real enemy.

Unsurprisingly both the mainstream media and the so-called alt-right are attacking them with unending fervor.

lol

>alt-right
I hope we don't actually turn into that.

Chomsky has been cautiously hopeful of Sanders. I heard he even donated to him. But yeah, I've noticed a theme with Chomsky that he thinks pretty much everything is the scheming of the corporate elite--including the popularizing of the internet.

He's on the literal opposite corner of the political compass from the "alt-right." So theres that.

Gay as hell but linguistic determinism is badass.

Chomsky hates imperialism, so he hates Americanism and everything American since like the Spanish American war.

Maybe it goes full circle (on some aspects anyway)?

Noam Chomsky once claimed that the Weimar Republic was the height of human civilization.

To be fair, most things ARE scheming of the elite, now.

Not that I trust Bernie .

Lol I'd need to know the context there. That seems pretty silly especially considering everything he believes, but I'm an illiterate pleb who only knows a little about the Weimar Republic.

Eh. In terms of philosophy not at all. In terms of random specific policies like trade...sort of? It just shows that the alt-right doesn't have a clue what theyre talking about or understand what they want. They think that America should be a massive militaristic global super power but dont want ferners takin' their jabs. They want complete economic deregulation but hate the jewish bankers for being greedy.

Eh, yeah!
And the far-right fascists seemed to heavily regulate capitalism in their own way (mostly the finance aspect I guess?). I think Sup Forums is just combining the stormfags and lolbertarian memes.

Why don't you trust bernie out of curiosity? 90% of what he says I completely agree with, but he raises a few concerning flags. Like the fact that he's not as non-interventionalist as his rhetoric might imply or that he's for drone strikes and extrajudicial killings. He also has been a party insider for the last ten years or so and has done nothing to stand up against the DNC's obvious electioneering. He's not anywhere near as anti-israel as he should be, and has dismissed the green party. Other things too that I can't immediately remember.

He's a Jewish "intellectual anarchist" and renown linguist. I've listened to some of his audio and video speeches but that's all. He's probably the last of his kind - there's no Leftist thinker with as much historical knowledge, reasoning power, and publicity since the 1970s. I'm a constitutional conservative, and I don't usually agree with Chomsky but I like listening to him talk about contemporary issues.

He has a paranoid schizophrenic attitude towards the government/elite and he's right. History is a constant struggle between classes. Why would our time be any different?

Lmao yeah pretty much. Though the lolbertarian memes have been around for a while. More it's just that many of the libertarians are supporting trump for some fucking reason. "He's anti-PC!" And then they jump on the stormfag bandwaggon too. And yeah well right authoritarianism implies corporatism so yeah lots of financial regulation--but just in order to continue to keep the wage slaves in line.

a literal god. Watching Requiem for the American Dream right now and learning a lot. The more I watch the more retarded Trump sounds to be a president.
>Make America Great again
does he even know when America was great? I dont think so.

Like many other thinkers, his analysis of the sctructures of power and society are brilliant. His solutions of the problems are absolute trash. Think of an american Marx

thank you for correcting the record

I think the last thing Hillary's super pac would want to do is have people listen to noam chomsky.

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in case anyone wishes to watch it

as a computer scientist, I can appreciate his contributions to linguistics, since we make use of them. other than that, i'm afraid i don't know much about him.

he is a kike.
just no.

Sanders went apeshit when confronted about Israeli racism in those townhall meetings he did in New England. He's an Israel firster, and so is Chomsky.

Don't be fooled, I was fooled by Finkelstein. Finkelstein lost his shit over BDS, a peaceful protest movement. Why? Because sanctions actually work! It's perfectly copacetic to criticize ysrael as controlled oppo, as long as none of your solutions are actually effective.

Eh, personally I'd be OK with either Bernie or Trump. They're both apparently anti-establishment. They both probably want to help common people. Being against the TPP/TTIP seems indicative of that to me. If the US abandon those trade deals, Canada doesn't have to join them either. I absolutely hate the way globalization is happening. It's undemocratic. It's disempowering workers. It makes the corporations too powerful. It causes unemployment (which is compensated with welfare, but in a way this welfare is just subsidizing the social problems that were allowed to happen for the profits corporations).

Trump seems like he would really reindustrialize the US and stop the inflow of illegal, exploitable labor and drugs. That sounds pretty great desu.

I don't know if Sanders would be able to do what he says he would. The US' government seems pretty corrupt and inefficient and it looks like he would just keep on feeding the beast hoping he can get it to make everything right. He seems like an honest guy though and I'm sure he would try to do everything he could.

Hillary is the absolute worst though. She's a witch.

I "support" trump as a libertarian because hillary is ten times worst

So you're not #FeelingTheJohnson?
They're shilling him to split the vote lately.

acts like an old liberal professor to spread destructive ideas

but in reality he's a lying stalinist

As a linguist, I fucking hate him.
Most of his theories were crackpot shit.
He keeps shilling for universal grammar which just gets more and more btfo every year.

Standing against the trade deals is a big reason to pick trump over hillary thats for damn sure. I disagree with what I think you're implying about trump stopping illegal labor and drugs though. Illegal labor is an issue I'm not sure how to feel about. Theres the obvious that having to compete with wages that low is, well, bad. But then theres the fact that many jobs and industries are literally dependent on illegal immigrants. They also tend to be statistically law abiding and have a perpencity to consume that stimulates the economy so I'm not sure. As far as ending the violent drug cartels and their affect on America? The only way to deal with that problem is to end the war on drugs and decriminalize all of them imo. A wall wont stop drugs and will just continue to fuck over mexico. Hillary has historically been just like trump on immigration though. Shes also literally financially invested in the drug war. Bernie meanwhile plans on ending private prisons and decriminalizing drugs. Bam problem solved. And idk, increasing the minimum wage and ending corporate wellfare feeds into the problem? Hes also the only candidate to mention anything about tax havens. On top of that, I think single payer healthcare is the indisputable answer to all of the corruption of pharma and the insurance industry. You should know, you live in canda lol. Meanwhile obamacare is starting to look more like corporate tyranny than what we had before so I guess yeah Hillary once again comes out as the worst.

he also thinks we shouldnt occupy ourself looking into racial differences because if that would play into the hands of racists. fuck him if he wants to supress the truth for (((the greater good)))

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>many jobs and industries are literally dependent on illegal immigrants
Screw them. Those businesses are not legitimate. That's the thing I don't get about liberals. They're all OK with slave labor. I guess just because they're better off here than in Mexico. But I find it morally repulsive anyway. We are stealing these people, and their labor, from Mexico. They should be making Mexico great right now. If they're not being allowed to, they should be waging civil war in Mexico right now, and we should be helping them.
>The only way to deal with that problem is to end the war on drugs and decriminalize all of them imo.
I used to think that but I'm not sure anymore. The hard drugs are too powerful I think. People take them as kids (when they lack judgement) or because they are mentally ill, or for whatever reason, and it enslaves them. I don't want to give people the freedom to lose their free will in a way.
Maybe LSD (and some others?) are special cases.
>A wall wont stop drugs and will just continue to fuck over mexico.
They could stop the drugs if they really wanted to, I'm sure. The wall wouldn't be sufficient, but it is probably required.
>Shes also literally financially invested in the drug war.
Heh.. yeah. Lots of people don't want to end it it seems (neither win nor abandon it). It's just too lucrative. :(
>Bernie meanwhile plans on...
Yeah, I agree with pretty much everything he says.
My main issue with him would be that I'm not sure he would really be able to create jobs. I'd rather have people working than on welfare. (I wish people weren't stuck with jobs they hate too; but there needs to be MORE jobs for that.)
And immigration...
>On top of that, I think single payer healthcare is the indisputable answer to all of the corruption of pharma and the insurance industry. You should know, you live in canda lol.
Yes, but it is breaking down. It could be working fine, but it is clear they are planning on privatizing it by sabotaging it first. :(

>My main issue with him would be that I'm not sure he would really be able to create jobs. I'd rather have people working than on welfare. (I wish people weren't stuck with jobs they hate too; but there needs to be MORE jobs for that.)
The chief economic advisor to the Sanders campaign is an advocate for a "job guarantee" policy which basically looks at needs that are not being met, or work that is currently being done on a voluntary basis, and pays minimum wage to anyone willing to do it. Then people can shift back to the private sector when the economy grows (or stay if they prefer).

I really think that's the kind of policy we should have had for decades. It automatically takes care of the unemployed even when discretionary policies of government fail them.

Sanders has kind of alluded to it in terms of getting youths into jobs to work on infrastructure New Deal style. Jill Stein actually directly advocates for the right to work as part of her Green New Deal. Sanders promises 13 million jobs while Stein promises around 20 million.

How many other candidates talk seriously about ending unemployment? I know of none besides Stein and Sanders. But full employment is the key to long-term prosperity. The lack of vision is sad.

That's interesting.

I must admit I stopped following Sanders once I became discouraged about his chances to win. Now I follow Trump for his antics and the memes. Trump talks a lot about manufacturing jobs, but not great projects so much. He sometimes mentions the infrastructure though.

Sanders would have to get the congress on board for all this though? The US president isn't so powerful...

Trump (at least the team behind him) seems to have some kind of plan going on. I believe he will get more control over the tariffs and tributes he will demand from other nations, which should allow him to finance his programs? That guy is going rogue and it's fun to watch. Seems like he's going to mess with the world order too.

I remember reading Sanders saying in an interview that there is nothing the capitalists would want more than open borders (and he mentioned the Koch brothers IIRC). I agree with that, but now he seems to be pro-immigration because this position has been bundled with the "left" package in the west somehow.

>Sanders would have to get the congress on board for all this though?
This is a genuine concern but it wouldn't stop me from voting for a pro-job-guarantee candidate if I were given the option. If it can't be done without Congress then it will have been a failure of Congress, not Sanders/Stein.

It might be possible to implement a job guarantee through executive orders. I lack the constitutional expertise to know.

There's always the argument Sanders brings up - that a yuge voter movement to elect him would also see Democratic majorities restored in Congress - but I would be skeptical because Democrats are fucking useless even when they control both houses.

>It might be possible to implement a job guarantee through executive orders. I lack the constitutional expertise to know.
Didn't seem so easy for president Frank Underwood.

I really wish Bernie would win the nomination. Bernie vs Trump in the general election would be the greatest thing ever. Against Hillary, Trump just has to make people see through her lies. He's clearly better than her. But against Bernie, Trump would really have to make a case for himself (even though so many americans would never ever vote for a socialist).

The US seems like a deeply divided nation now. The conservatives deplore the gradual loss of christian family values and I can agree with them on that. I don't like the idea of the majority of children being born to single mothers soon. Not that the republican party were really doing much of anything about that; it's not possible given how corporatist they were, they were merely pandering it seems.

>Didn't seem so easy for president Frank Underwood.
lel, actually it went exactly to plan, he demonstrated the effectiveness and the once controversial policy got popular support very quickly. But it's fiction so we can't really draw useful conclusions from it.

>I really wish Bernie would win the nomination. Bernie vs Trump in the general election would be the greatest thing ever.
Honestly I would prefer Jill Stein as president over Bernie Sanders but yeah a Sanders vs Trump meme election would also be fun.