Why is Reddit Liberal and Sup Forums Conservative?

Roll of the dice?

Voting?

Culture outside of politics? (Anime vs SV)

(Don't say because the board is called Sup Forums because it was /new/ before that.)

One isn't afraid to share their views and the other is. Reddit is proud of their political stance, Sup Forums isn't. It also helps that they don't post child porn on their website.

Sup Forums isn't conservative. It's contrarian with a libertarian bent (due to the sheer amount of literal autists that post here).

>One isn't afraid to share their views and the other is. Reddit is proud of their political stance, Sup Forums isn't.

How is this relevant to right vs left?

>It also helps that they don't post child porn on their website.

Jailbait was big on reddit for a long time

Cause modfaggotry and goons

i see you're new
Sup Forums has no views
Sup Forums will jump on whatever pisses people off

>tfw SA used to be breddy funny then in 2008 it was just peoples worshiping obamas BBC

Please delete this image

Liberalism places a heavy impetus on advancing identity politics. That's antithetical to an anonymous board.

because le funny maymays come from reddit, only racist right winger stormies go on pol

this. Sup Forums is mostly agnostic libertarians

I feel like Reddit is definitely libertarian and autistic as well.

You could say reddit is also contrarian since they were huge into edgy shit (watch people die) and "movements" like Occupy when it first started.

There is definitely a liberal VS conservative thing going on.

On Sup Forums you can speak your mind freely withought censorship and anonymously. Pol and int are the least anonymous because they show your flag but thats as much as you can find oit about a poster. Reddit is heavily moderated and isint very anonymous.

Reddit is eternally cucked and censored by SJW moderators. Admins don't care and are in on it, too.

What kind of mad man would take a chunk out of Hubba Bubba?

Virtue signalling vs soulcrushing despair

Sup Forums rewards outrageous behavior while Reddit strongly discourages it nowadays. Thus Sup Forums has become filled with unironic and ironic racism/reactionary politics while Reddit is full of liberal morons who prefer agreement to conflict.

>Sup Forums
>conservative

pick only one.

Sup Forums is more chaos than anything else.

We have free speech here.

r/europe and r/european are a perfect example of this.

Reddit is about muh feels, Sup Forums is about muh facts

when ideas are freely shared and discussed, everybody's mind works its way towards conservatism/libertarianism

leftist ideas sound nice if you think about them for less than a minute and ask no followup questions.

Satanic quads of truth, based esti.

Forums with less moderation and less ability to shut out dissent will trend towards right wing ideas. Reddit is structured to reward groupthink and keeping with the status quo, add in zealous left wing mods and it's not surprising it's a cesspool

Well, with numbers like these how could I argue?
And with a confirmation like this, we know it's law.

Lax moderation allows true political discourse and the most successful ideologies are allowed to prosper. That, and the weak are weeded out by "offensive" remarks.

Holy shit this is way too close to me for comfort.

I feel like I should make some clever trickster god rhyme and vanish in a puff of smoke and confetti.

>Sup Forums
>cuckservative
Cuckservatives love Israel and hate Trump's wall. If anything were majority realists.

Most people here are classical liberals interested in liberty and judging others only by their actions, their words, and the content of their character.

>Sup Forums Conservative
bullshit Sup Forums is contrarian and edgy.

>conservative

Eat me, statist scum.

Most normalfags see no difference between traditional and conservative. We all know the cucks for who they are.

>Why is Reddit Liberal and Sup Forums Conservative?
Same reason Tumblr is reactionary left and Sup Forums is reactionary right with Twitter perfectly split.

The three platforms operate on signal loudness while Reddit operates on signal acceptability.

If it's outrageous it gets boosted, if it's centrist it gets buried.

Sup Forums is about message, therefore it's male.

Tumblr is about identity therefore it's female.

Males are right, women are left.

Reddit pre-selects so it reflects the mainstream, which is left.

r/european was killed off a while ago. Gone the way of r/coontown. Oh god, how I miss r/coontown. The only reason to go to reddit. Well, that and r/fatpeoplehate.

Liberals can trigger conservatives.

Conservatives can trigger liberals.

Still doesn't explain the clear slants in left/right.

Reddit is borderline anonymous. And they don't seem to think too fondly of identity politics.

Why?

So is reddit.

Reddit is as moderated as the individual board. Anyone can make a subreddit with pretty much no rules. Also, how does this lead to left vs right?

The right leaning is very obvious.

They're just forums.

Then reddit should be very conservative, since they're discussions can go on for weeks while a Sup Forums thread lasts an hour.

Interesting.

Lazy discourse is just lazy. It doesn't lead left or right or correct.

...And skin color, nationality, religion, etc.

To what? Why aren't we all maoists then?

Sup Forums is anti-cuck.
Liberal = Cuck
Conservative "Alt-Right" = Non-Cuck

>conservatism is statist
(You)

>Reddit pre-selects so it reflects the mainstream, which is left.

I was following you until you got to this part.

How is liberalism "mainstream"? The House and the Senate are both Republican controlled.

Reddit is a corporation that has advertisers to pander to so they need to police everything. Sup Forums only has tentacle grape juice ads and was run from servers in thr back of moots van for some time.

Heavy handed moderation breeds leftism

>they need to police everything.

Except they don't.

Go make a subreddit right now. Call it pol2.0. Let Sup Forums content be posted there

Oldfag of early 06, Sup Forums moved to right as it became more popular. I would say 07-08 was the eternal september era and 2010-11 was the breaking point. Sup Forums in 03-07 was dominated by a particular subgroup, who was mostly into weird shit and mostly belonged to middle to upper class urban-suburban westerners. and those households tend to be left leaning-liberal

As 4chinz became more popular more people came to this place, many outside from the group that I mentioned above. Lower-middle class, bluecollar households, foreigners etc etc. However this was also the time of 08-09 when dubya ruined the conservative reputation and we had the 08 crisis. So most of the folk identified themselves as libertarian. Even though they were socially conservative themselves. Anyways, libertarianism was just a fad and nowadays people are returning to the good old social conservative-right wing populist ideology they were holding from the start.

In short, it is just a demographical shift. People like to say "4chinz is contrarian, if republicans get elected we will just shit on them" but I don't buy it. This place will remain conservative no matter the outcome of the election.

>republican automatically means right

Are you a teenager or something? How new do you have to be to think party means anything as far as political spectrum? The whole of the fucking Republican party is against Trump, pro-immigration, and pro-status quo. They've surrendered our rights one by one for over 50 years.

And leftism cannot survive without heavy handed moderation, which is why Sup Forums is tumblr.

They shut european down though

And europe is one of the strongest policed subs, I get banned after every two posts or so.

Doesn't matter what sub reddit you go to, you say one thing in a post that isn't politically correct, and you get down voted and tons of replies asking you to not be so offensive. Your argument could have nothing to do with political or racial things, but if you say one thing liberals don't like, you 10 SJWs coming out of the woodwork at you. It's insane. You can't carry on a normal conversation on reddit.

this look at the conservatives in the uk its the same shit they have thrown in with the rest of the liberal parties

The Republican party and Trump both disagree on a few things, but they are both obviously right leaning.

The Republican party is only Right fiscally. There hasn't been a real socially conservative platform since the 80s because they were cucks. They only put on a show about being socially conservative. They would sell their mothers into slavery if it meant they got to stay in office.

All fine until it gets popular and starts making the front page. Fatppeoplehate, watchpeopledie, coontown, European have all been shut down. It's a wonder the red pill is still going.

>t. cucked millennial

I got banned from there back in '00 for shitposting and even back then it was a leftist hug box, and that was before they went full cuck and charged people to post

What kind of shill are you?

Do you ever go outside of Sup Forums?

e.g. Sup Forums is even more liberal than leddit and modded by SJW shills and Sup Forums is full of non-stop tranny porn and other degeneracy etc.

Sup Forums is the last stand of what Sup Forums used to be

the entire internet has been taken over by SJW shills

That doesn't explain why reddit is liberal though.

It seems like reddit had the exact same growth pattern

It's honestly not that different here. You say one politically incorrect thing and instead of downvoting they'll mass report you and one of the faggot liberal mods like niggerwood will ban you.

I am only 23 yeah so I was only 7 back when you were shitposting.

rip fat people hate

I suppose. But you can have a right-wing subreddit that's very popular. Look at The_Donald for example. Sure, they don't post horribly offensive things, but it's right-wing nonetheless. Why hasn't a large right-wing sub taken off before (that wasn't aimed around hating some group)

Reddit is different from Sup Forums as Reddit's political moderation censors incorrect statements. Reddit is also different from Sup Forums in upvote/downvote enforcing group think. This place is also group think but the popular opinion is not always idealistic in other words, real world.

Yeah but if you stick to Sup Forums, the only board on this website not infested by faggots, you are okay.

I think it was more a shift of ideas than demographic. You're right that Sup Forums was very liberal in de 2000's, shitting on Bush and the USA all the time. Now that we have seen what happened to Europe people on Sup Forums have become more rught wing. It was middle class suburban kids then, it's middle class suburban kids now.

It comes down to their Karma and name systems.

All liberals and "progressives" care about is their image. They want to be known as "good" or "progressive" people and they will lie cheat and steal to be perceived that way.

When no one knows who you are and you gain nothing from pretending, there's no incentive to.

The_Donald is a Sup Forums machination. It would have never happened without the memes and crossposting.

I'm anti-SJW but I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

Perfect breakdown. Well done, sir.

>im socially liberal
>leaf

Never would have guessed.

That's the problem though. I have interests beyond news and politics but I can't go to the boards to talk about them.

...

I actually had the misfortune of having lunch with lowtax once as my boss at the time was one of the targets of his HILARIOUS proto-memes.

I'm sure half the goons on the forum would have sucked me off for the opportunity to trade places but the guy was extremely dislikable and talked about himself for an hour straight.

Because "Liberals" aka Collectivists crave power structures and use of power towards censorship and enforcement, things they can not do nearly as effectivelly in Sup Forums.

Thefore Sup Forums wins with normal individualistic socially conservative people.

The End.

Aside from modding, the voting system means nobody will get to see stuff that isn't majority-approved. There will always be 10 highly voted sjw comments on any news article and a graveyard of thousands of politically incorrect opinions.

The heavy policing happens on subs where these opinions are actually upvoted like europe, most of the time they end up deleting almost every comment and locking the thread lol

Sup Forums is anonymous so users are allowed to express unpopular opinions.

This appeals to conservatives/republicans because we're generally not allowed to express our views.

>go on r/The_Donald
>liberals downvoted
>conservatives upvoted

Hmm....

I can make 10 reddit accounts right now. Hell, I'd say reddit is MORE anonymous than Sup Forums because I can sock-puppet and ban evade more easily.

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I also neglected to mention that a lot of the posters there are likely leftovers from Gamergate with an ax to grind against shitlibs in general.

We don't have a voting system (you could argue saging a thread is "downvoting", but its not the same), so unlike reddit, unpopular or unothrodox ideas are allowed to manifest, hence why in the long term, we will drift rightward, since thought policing is a cornerstone of the left.

Reddit is heavily censored so only mainstream opinions show up. Sup Forums is uncensored so people with outside opinions flock here. Liberalism is mainstream right now so reddit is liberal.

Censorship.

It's the ultimate goal of liberals.

>This entire thread.

Leddit needs to fuck off

Okay? So Sup Forums users can post on reddit, and reddit users can post on Sup Forums. Why in the fuck is reddit left and Sup Forums right?

I mean, it's so clearly obvious that you can make a successful right-wing sub that consistently hits the front page. Why did it turn out one way and not the other?

>(you could argue saging a thread is "downvoting", but its not the same)
Saging does jack shit. It's nothing like downvoting.

this is just about right. reddit isn't proud of their political stance but it definitely has an express desire to be socially relevant. Sup Forums doesnt care

can you not fucking do this? no one cares this much about your god damn opinion

Reddit was also popular first and foremost by the middle-upper class leftist. I would say for the case of reddit the siteowners tried to contain the right wing encirclement (hence the closing of certain subreddits) while for the case of Sup Forums Sup Forums-/new/ was left mostly alone. Moot also said Sup Forums was a containment board for more than once. So maybe that was his defense, let them stay in one place rather than suppressing them everywhere.

It kinda worked, hence you get back to Sup Forums memes.
I disagree, though I can't prove anything but call it a personal bias. Few things

-Most of the old demographic left, except for few autistic folk. So I don't buy into "old leftists kids changing their minds", surely there are some but 9 out of ever 10 right winger must be new blood that came after 2010.

-In early 2000s, Sup Forums dominated the internet way better than today, due to the lack of other sites. Besides SA-Sup Forums there were only few obsure boards with few thousand members at best. no tumblr, no reddit your best bet would be in some obscure fanfic page or becoming a gaiafag.

There were not enough places for middle-upper class folk to hang out, hence Sup Forums was a big fish in a small pond. nowadays tumblr-reddit is the place to go if you are a young urbanite kid. If you don't believe me take a loot at how tumblr-reddit et al suprassed 4chinz in alexa ranking.

-I don't buy into "we are still middle-upper class" talk, nope especially in places like this when Ivy school discussions get 5-10 responses at best while tradeschool threads reach bump limit. Nothing wrong with being a plumber or anything but there is definitely a demo graphical shift

Lastly I don't buy into "it was hip to insult dubya then" meme. Again I will say this with utmost confidence, hardly anyone (I mean the majority;) will mock Trump if he become president, "gop ruled then we mock them, democrats rule now, we mock them, whoever rules next we'll mock them" is bull
just my 2cents

> agnostic libertarians

autistic librarians

Sure, you can make new accounts, but most people like to keep their old accounts. Especially after having them for years.

But you're right. I don't think I entirely agree with what I said now.

Thinking about it, I think I might say:

1. Sup Forums lacks a voting system. Posts aren't seen because other people liked them. In fact, more controversial, hard hitting posts are seen more often because they get more replies.
2. Sup Forums is pretty lawless. You're really free to say anything, meaning people who think/say things that most people would dislike will tend to gravitate to it.
3. Sup Forums is anonymous. You'll never be punished or hated for saying something unpopular. Post and forget.

Exactly. The up-vote-downvote/my post >your post does not work for beneficial discourse.It hides "bad" opinions and favors "good" ones.

I think you're trying to make us critically think which can't happen on Reddit if views are not to be challenged.

>How is liberalism "mainstream"? The House and the Senate are both Republican controlled.
Two reasons.
1) Liberals are worse at voting because they're usually young young people are worse at democracy. Case in point: Trump's very children failed to register in time.
2) The mainstream is still liberal because media is primarily liberal.

3) This.
>Perfect breakdown. Well done, sir.
Thank you, Freedombro.

Do me a favour. Find a Schnitzel, find an Austrian beer, and say "Fuer den Kaiser" before consuming them.


We need a lot of energy right now. Every little thing counts.

Because you can't speak the truth on Reddit; people can piece together your history and potentially ID you. Plus the downvoted system keeps all but the politest opinions at bay. Combine the two, and most people play PC cuz peer pressure.

reddit is more heavily moderated and the admins are SJWs

>just visited reddit
>some users chose to have eu flags as avatar
>alt+ f4

fucked up board, no hot topics discussed there anyway

because liberalism is mainstream and conservatives are counterculture

It's pretty simple really.

When the average conservative interacts with a liberal, he may argue, may use insults, but that's usually about it.

When the average liberal interacts with a conservative, he demands nothing less than for the conservative to be silenced.

This results in most forms of social media to slowly become liberal.(assuming they weren't run by liberals to begin with) Sup Forums, however, allows anonymity, and most boards are more loosely policed than the average social media. This makes it harder for the liberal to silence the conservative.

Sup Forums is counterculture

Anonimity

precisely, now give us your counter strategy

Ban mass repliers.

This

r/european was right wing
r/europe is a left wing sub. Its also HEAVILY moderated.

I'd agree that it's easier to get around or mask yourself to an extent on Reddit but it's also easy to track someone and silence them as well. I know how that sounds but tidbits of personal information (metadata even) and eventually you'll make a mistake.

If you want to silence someone here in a thread you more or less need to drown them out with a concerted effort to see some results.