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Hey Sup Forums, all of my sexual experience has come from hookups and one night stands and I'm looking to get into the dating game. Despite not being a virgin I'm not confident in my lady skills yet and I'm looking for some tips on girls. Good first date ideas, how to avoid awkwardness, how to make the move when the time's right, etc. Thanks guys

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eh it's not that hard just need to figure out where you connect and play that up alot

Thanks, what about dating apps, is Tinder still king or is it better to get on multiple like Bumble?

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If your going dinner Do a semi-expensive local place that isn't fancy, unless she's into that kinda thing

Yeah I know of some good places that could fit the bill, I'm more worried about small talk 1 on 1 with someone I barely know. That and advancing beyond just friendliness.

Just go with the flow, and try not to act like a dick

Thanks, I'm more worried about being too nice or a pushover. Mainly not knowing the time to escalate to touching or suggesting going back to our places.

Idk about that, I wouldn't date Someone I don't kinda know, but make sure you guys talk a bit before the date and find a common interest?

I can relate... Hooking up and only having to seduce a girl in the short term is not conducive to building a relationship at all, and you pick up all the habits that come back to screw you. If you're used to new pussy all the time, being tied down to just one is another struggle. Feels.

If this isn't a condemnation of our culture I don't know what is. When people have no problem causally fucking each other but have no clue as to how to actually talk with one another.

related question:

i'm a charismatic young man, 23 y/o virgin, im great with people, girls love me BUT in more of a friend way. im way overweight though and i have huge self esteem issues. im working on the weight issues but how can i improve my self esteem so i may feel more comfortable approaching ladies in a more "sexual" manner rather than as a friend? do you guys think it's all about the weight?

just be physical in general and it will come to you, hugs, high fives, then cuddling, etc

Depends on how bad it is really.
Look up your BMI, if you are in the “obese” or “morbidly obese” category, lose weight until you are just “overweight”. Probably the highest leverage thing you can do actually. If you can measure body fat and you are like 20%, getting to 15% will improve your appearance a lot. Above that, you have to be very motivated to go get girls and tbh while it can be a double edged sword, PUA is very motivating

Well sure, I meant to say someone I only know as far as talking on Tinder or whatever. Even someone you randomly meet on a line at a store and you ask out you barely know before a date.

Yeah completely different worlds for sure. Really do want something real though, tired of meaningless relationships.

Yeah, kinda agree.

Same boat for the most part, mostly need tips on sexual escalation.

Ok that's good advice. How do I know when to invite her over?

A good first date a lot of dudes don't consider is an arcade. Usually pretty cheap, tons of old ass games you can play together and be equally terrible at, and if she's ever been to one at all it was probably when she was 12 which will score you nostalgia points. Just make sure to go on a weekday, on weekends those things are packed with small children.

yeah im really fucking fat tbh. worst part is i was once this fat, dropped 200 pounds, got a bit more confident but then became very depressed and now im back to being fat. im hoping this time i can keep off the weight.
also what is PUA?

Sauce on OP pic?

me here. do you find that you treat girls better than other guys do? im starting to feel like this is my downfall....like it really seems to me that girls DO indeed go for the more asshole type

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can't argue with those numbers

Look, I don't wanna go down the 'nice guys finish last' rabbit hole that these kind of discussions are prone to, but yeah I feel like I do most of the time and I give girls too much slack when they fuck up. It makes me come off as a nice friend guy at best and a pushover at worst. This is a me problem, not a problem with girls though.

Wow, OP here, never knew where she was from. Thanks so much

A thing I always try to do with small talk is just talk about whatever pops into your head. Not saying don't have a filter, exact opposite of that. But if some random thing pops into your head, see if you can ask her a question about it.

"Wow, just saw/thought about *insert blank*. You do anything like that/enjoy it?" With *blank* being something like skiing, a certain TV show, media topic, etc.

Also slight physical contact is a good measure of how into you they are. Like a slight nudge on the shoulder, putting your hand on her arm/hand for a second, etc. I'm a total fucking weirdo and just lean into them sometimes and it gets a good laugh (Idk why I guess I'm the quirky kind of guy girls like, it somehow works). That and just be yourself. Don't force anything too hard otherwise they see it from a mile away

na i feel that. its a pretty toxic line to go down. its just tough for me cause i know im doing the right thing, but it doesn't pan out the way i want it. and yeah i totally think its a me problem not a girl problem, i guess im just trying to find a way to be able to attract girls in a more sexual way without having to compromise my morals.

man its fucking hard when you are able to be the life of the party, when you know everyone loves you and shit, but you can't pluck up the courage to confront the girl you like.

Thanks, good advice. Seems like the general sentiment here is to mostly be yourself and not try to force anything, which is a relief to hear honestly. Any tips on leading up to sex?

Yeah I actually prefer large groups to 1 on 1s especially with girls

The best way is to make a sign advertising your Love Quest and stand around the local malls and campuses displaying your sign.

how do i get a girl who i know has some sort of feelings for me but is in a relationship?

And always zap to the extreme.

Don’t fall for anyone. If you’re under 30, it’s highly likely that you’re going to end up dating a girl that’s fucked guys in the hundreds that very year.

Women are vile, disgusting things. Don’t get attached to them.

The worst thing about women is most of them believe they’re smarter than they are. This is dangerous.

Just fuck sluts until you hit your mid 30s, even 40s. Don’t fuck yourself.

To get into real dating, don’t go online.
Think about it: any reasonably attractive woman can get laid anytime they want by just asking random people if they want to, and often they don’t even have to do that much. Guys will be propositioning her regularly, all she has to do is say yes once. So if she’s got to go online, something is very wrong with her. She’s either fat, ugly, horrible personality, has incredible amounts of psychological damage, is literally insane, or has some other such fatal flaw(s). Put simply, they are not relationship material, and will never be.

Dating women online is okay to get your conversation skills sharp and figure out good answers to common questions. Do this like 15-20 times to get your conversations practiced and make it seem like you are easy to talk with, go on dates all of the time (after 15-20 of them, you will be), are successful with women and can take or leave them. Under no circumstances should you EVER go on a second date with any of these, let alone sleep with one. It will never be worth it, not even to get your dick wet, and will never end well.
All this online dating is doing is getting your skills sharp and building your confidence to be able to land someone you REALLY want when you meet her in the grocery store/on the street/waiting on your table/etc.

The one thing I seem to gravitate towards is giving an option, and let them pick. Like, after dinner or a movie night, I ask if she wants to come back to my place and hang out some more, or if I should walk her home. If she blatantly wants to go home, you were probably not getting some anyways, and then better to wait a bit for it. If she comes back over, that's a step in the right direction, cause either that means she'll stay late and spend the night, or at least you get to test the waters before she goes home.

If she does get to your place, just suggest something relaxing or calming, that you can do on a couch, your bed, etc. Then just play the touchy flirty game with her, and most women will show if they want it or not. Just from my experience.

This nigga knows.

Lord. My wife is literally my soul mate. Not too worried.

what are the chances that a fat cool dude in his early/mid 20s can get laid?

Zero, you're probably way fatter than you realize and not even close to being as cool as you think.

def way fatter than im letting on. morbidly obese.
but i will say im actually as cool as i think, if not more.

Thanks Father, i will!

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