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Some have wondered — including part of our older staff — as to why we don’t feature the newer-styled black metal acts like Drudkh, Blazebirth Hall, and the like here on DeathMetal.org. Our answer is simple: they’re part of the same distraction that killed black metal.

It is in fact an illusion to argue that black metal still exists. Rather, something exists that uses the name of black metal, but it’s not really related to it musically or artistically. In the underground, it’s mostly punk-based bands or the above type of flowing black metal. Above that, it’s DeafHeaven: shoegaze/emo/indie with pretenses of being socially unacceptable.

We all know how it got this way. In 1994, the momentum ran out. The original guys who made death metal and black metal had each had their say and were bogged down in band politics, label economics and personal life decisions (stay with band, or be able to afford food). It was clear there was not much money in underground metal as a career.

However the following years showed us a simple truth: people were afraid of underground metal. Thus an internship in underground metal before going on to a career in a different genre could be quite lucrative. It was “street cred” of a comparable level of being in a gangster hip-hop group. Thus the gates opened, and in flowed the herd, bringing with them their disease.

Currently going off of this chart

Join plug.dj/nbbmn or ants will crawl into your ears tonight and eat your brains

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can we talk about music this time?

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Post RABM

Please post more if these if you got any. It's good shit.

llah eht evaeL

guess im dead

On the underground side of things an interesting transformation took place. The original black metal emphasized a kind of intensity that could not be replicated. So bands aimed for the next best things, which was to take that surface and put candy-metal underneath it. Specifically, stuff like the following:
youtube.com/watch?v=SvWQQaCpte4
youtube.com/watch?v=Q98qulfxXcs

In general, these bands have one salient attribute: they use longer melodies but these melodies tend to be recursive instead of developing, giving them a sense of internal dialogue like meandering thoughts on a balmy day with a cool breeze, watching over a town and thinking idle notions.

Where did this style come from? Let’s recover the generations of black metal. It’s nonsense to say black metal existed before the 1984-1987 generation of Bathory, Hellhammer/Celtic Frost, Sodom and Sarcofago. Even then, those bands were not black metal per se so much as proto-underground metal sharing traits between death metal and black metal.

While others often mention Venom, Mercyful Fate and other early bands as being “black metal,” these were musically heavy metal acts not black metal at all. They may have been inspirations, but they shared no musical relation to what was to follow, and yet fit within the genre descriptions given to them if one ignores subject matter. Venom was NWOBHM right alongside Motorhead, and Mercyful Fate fit into the proto-speed metal generation that overlapped with NWOBHM and included Tank, Satan and Blitzkrieg.

>mfw a falsie entrys

After the proto-underground generation, most bands explored death metal because it had the most immediate possibilities. What defines death metal is that it turned riff salad into a narrative form and thus created a new type of progressive music that was progressive at the compositional level, but surely not at the mechanics! It was thus a perfect fusion of 1970s avant-prog (King Crimson) and the utter nihilism of punk (Discharge, Cro-Mags, Amebix). This fusion was apparent ever since Iggy and the Stooges and Black Sabbath kept one-upping each other with albums from the late 1960s through mid 1970s.

The first generation of black metal really came about in 1990 with Immortal. Bathory had developed fully with Blood, Fire, Death but had also regressed into the speed metal styles popular at the time. Immortal had a simple idea: take the approach of Blood, Fire, Death or Hammerheart and adapt the mechanics of 1985’s The Return to it. The result fused the extreme with the progressive-ish yet again, and from it was born Immortal’s first album. There was also a change in topic, spurred in part by the Odinic (Bathory) and occult (Slayer, Hellhammer/Celtic Frost) ideals of the past generation.

By 1991, it was clear that a new movement was afoot. Some of the best bands were hovering on the edges of this movement, making melodic death metal inspired by the previous generation of Swedes (At the Gates, Carnage), Norwegians (Cadaver, Molested) and Finns (Demigod, Amorphis, Demilich). In addition, there were “dark” bands like Merciless and Cemetary which essentially made older genres tinged with the mood and feeling of the new music. But during that fateful year, the early works of Burzum, Immortal, Darkthrone, and Mayhem were all tumbling onto the record racks, followed by Emperor, Gorgoroth and Enslaved.

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that nordlys album is great, strong choice

Reposting for all the people who want to get into Finnish BM.

The next generation defined itself as the space between the Emperor/Enslaved split, which really opened up black metal worldwide as people could easily understand this as an aesthetic, and Burzum’s Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. The former more resembled the horror movie music and progressive heavy metal of the time, and the latter changed black metal from something that vaguely fit into rock song-format into something entirely unrecognizable, a hybrid with ambient music and progressive avantgarde. But right in the middle of this generation something interesting happened.

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Inspired in part by Burzum’s use of melodic development to underscore longer pieces like “My Journey to the Stars” and Emperor’s vast “Inno a Satana” in addition to the more theatrical works of Gorgoroth like “Sorg,” these bands made longer songs. However, their melodies were not designed to be distinctive as much to preserve a feeling in mid-air for as long as possible, so they tended to use recursive patterns within the melody. This and the fixed tremolo strum and background rhythm gave them a flowing effect, which Graveland exploited over a waltz beat for maximum detachment from modern ‘reality.’

Eventually, this culminated in the Ancient guys coming up with something that sounded like it could have come off of a Camel, Yes or Genesis album, but only if those bands were committed to death of humanity and restoration of a medieval order:

youtube.com/watch?v=QW2pc7DeLK4

>Only second wave is trve bm

Hard to believe that tourists created a death metal website.

Very nice

It was from this template that the Blazebirth Hall and related Slavic and Colombian bands derived their sound. However, they’d done something none of the original bands did: they removed the ambiguity, struggle, reverence and steadfastness that were part of the original, which itself derived them from 500 years of European proto-Romanticist thought.

In other words, made candy-metal. It’s no surprise mainstream industry linked this up to its closest pop music relation, shoegaze and emo/punk/indie, and quickly made a cheesefest out of it:

youtube.com/watch?v=t0dJqlvOSq4
youtube.com/watch?v=_AzCgE43OXg

Hint: this is what other kids were listening to in 1990-1995, if they hadn’t already gone for the full mainstream-fest of Nirvana and Pantera. The record labels knew this formula worked, just needed a stylish new outfit to put it in… so they recruited black metal. Interesting how both the underground and aboveground sold out in parallel.

This annihilates both the tourist and the nu male

stop spamming

is DMU /oursite/?

how big of a nu-male pussy do you have to be to find two LARPERs intimidating?

t. triggered tourist

Daily reminder

Except fenriz is now a literal member of the party in norway that wants open immigration laws. Sad!

I love this holy fuck

>not having already seen this
found the tourist

Not of his own volition, though.

The only thing up for discussion is whether black metal is the music of satanists or satan worshippers. The discussion on the definition of true black metal does not exist beyond that question. There are metal bands whose members practice satanism or worship satan and that is enough evidence to conclude that there are still black metal bands.

For sure there are a lot of posers who don't come close to that definition but that does not kill black metal, even if it's the minority of bands that are true black metal. Fucking hell, black metal belongs in the underground.

Fuck the posers. Black metal will never die but if you're too lazy to scrape the surface to see beyond the poser metal bands then you might as well fuck off and die and leave the scene for the original TRUE BLACK METAL WARRIORS !!!

>committed myself to listening to this atmoshit album
>not even halfway through
kill me

What
Why do I have to have not seen it in order to love it?

Isn't it fucking hilarious that Fenriz is lovable enough that he can be elected mayor (or something similar) by just posing with a cat and saying "please don't vote for me"?

he chose to run, i don' care if he did it ironically

nice reading comprehension, i hope english is your second language

I feel like that’s a bad sign for self-governance I’m Norway

I'm pretty sure he signed up as a back up to a back up or something like that as a favour.

Huh

Fenriz will always remain to be cute.

He didn't want to be elected, read it up.

There's some truth in it.

>LARPers
user...

Who are they? I just assumed they were some band being that this is a music thread

Most people who don’t want to be elected don’t run

This kills the nu male.

Just listened to Havulinnaan in candlelight. The moon is really bright tonight. The ground is covered by snow
No way the rest of this month can live up to this.

their latest album was nu-male bait though

He didn't run exactly, he accepted being on the running list, which is a bit different, but your point does stand.

Soviet soldiers

Actually, KPN has become nu male central with their latest two outputs. Famine needs to step it up or quit it.

I have not seen one nu male talk about those albums. Fantano did a review, but it didn't really get any views.

RYM/Pitchfork circles dig the shit out of 'em.

How desperate were they, Jesus...
>do you wanna run for mayor?
>pleease?
Why would you want government that doesn’t wanna govern

It was a backup list and the town is really small, I guess reverse psychology did it's work.

Really? I'll be fucked then. KPN are still great though.

>RYM/Pitchfork circles dig the shit out of 'em.
They hate Famine because "he rayciss" and a majority of his stuff is rated really low on rym.

Can't wait for the Goatmoon/KPN split.

Those people gloss all over Filosofem.

What are you guys blastin??

I assume you've already heard some ANCST?

Post yfw

No their album from 2013 is really good but the one that came out 2015 has decreased in quality.

Nattens Madrigal

Post a chart of what you've listened so far.

neverendingchartrendering.org/

Fuck off and die.

Good shit otherwise but Goatmoon is NSBM (non satanic black metal)... Nazi's no good, man.

Just how much fucking free time do you have?

varg's not actually racist though, how many times do we have to go over this? he just thinks different races and cultures should have separate societies

Yeah, those are the people in the rym/pitchfork circles.

Looking into how much tape production would cost me
How much would you guys usually pay for tapes from small unsigned bands?

have started really slow this year but I hope I can pick up the pace asap

>RABM

Can someone rec stuff similar to this?
youtube.com/watch?v=zdDFhomK3Mg

Basically from 1 PM to midnight or so.

probably a NEET

>NSBM

Nothing special tb h

>DSBM

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not had a lot of chances to listen to stuff so far

> Liturgy

how is anti-integration not racist?

White supremacy is racism.

Racism is normal behavior though. It doesn't seem that great to compromise the interests of your group for another if you both don't get a mutual benefit.

Racist music can be great user.

give me recs

>Satanic misanthropic BM

share ur chart then u dumb dripdrop

Because he doesn't believe one race is better than another. Racialist would be a better term.

>allowing cultures to remain separate and intact is racist
He just thinks diversity doesn't work, he's not a white supremacist anymore though he was for awhile while in prison.

nu-male post incoming. is right though.

I'm not a NSBM fag though. That music makes 0 sense. Hitler would've hated black metal loving degenerates.

Actually, no I haven't. Post all recs.
If there's a RABM chart even better

May Result

NSBM isn't about what hitler loves
50% is retarded NS Larpers that much is true
the other 50% are however doing what black metal always did, provoking and shutting themselves off by being overly offensive to normal people
That isn't done by using anti-christianity anymore, it's pretty much only NS Symbolics these days.

How come all Hellhammer basslines are exactly the same

it's especially funny because a lot of it is made by slavs who hitler also hated

>Meal

Implying having nationalist lyrics are bad? When guys like you tolerate anti-Christian lyrics and misanthropy. The double standards and virtue signalling of the modern metal fan is just batty.

ANCST - Furnace
angstnoise.bandcamp.com/album/furnace

>Lyrical themes: Satanism, Anti-Christianity, Death, Armageddon (early), Nature, Love, Beauty, Spirituality (later)

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