Thoughts on vaporware... a genre or a movement? Is vaporware dead? Any chance for it come back, as a movement... ala blank banshee, joji
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what does joji have to do with vaporwave
>what does joji have to do with vaporwave
forget joji, you're not seeing the bigger picture
Vaporwave as a movement is dead senpai, people still make it but it's not anywhere near as groundbreaking as when it started. It's suer oversaturated now and nobody is really trying to make intricate songs anymore.
the only people still standing are the giants like Blank Banshee and Vektroid
dont speak on underground shit you havent heard
Bullshit. Name 5 underground vaporware artists worth listening to
the fact that everytime vapourwave is brought up someone asks if its dead well explains the fact that vaporwave has died.
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no do the work yourself
99% of "underground" vaporwave songs suck ass, either they try too hard to replicate what works or they go so off the charts experimental that it doesn't even sound like coherent music anymore, and if not that then it's just an old soul song slowed down x64 times. Vaporwave as a movement is dead
99%? where do these numbers come from
I'll defens this to my grave btw can go all day
literally listen to any recent vaporwave album on bandcamp and it'll be shit, the only good one to come out in the past YEAR was the most recent 2184 album, and even then it could barely live up to the album that made it famous
not saying its all good. the simplicity makes that obvious its the gems with concept thats worth peoples time
The fact we keep talking if its dead or not means it dying, not dead.
Don´t any of you want it to come back tho? be part of the renaissance of the wounded but not dead movement
I think part of vaporwave's dynamic is that its always simultaneously dead and alive
List down all the vaporwave artists still worth listening to or looking out for today
>Blank Banshee
>2814
>Vaperror
>Saint Pepsi
>Macross 82-99
You're then saying it can't grow or evolve...?
nobody said that
And if it isn't that, it barely sounds like vaporwave at all.
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well if its living only fueled by the people who say its dead... isn't the whole concept hypocrisy
vaporwave haters cant keep the story straight during their blogpost fits
no one said thats who fuels it either whataboutery
its pretty obvious it is. did you not see the vid above? (vaporware is dead)... the whole subculture is based on criticizing the subculture itself, yet they tell themselves they're agains capitalist ideals
thats just one project anybody can make them which is the appeal
the subculture should take advantage of the movement and the "fanbase" to criticize thing that can be changed.. for the better
subculture=fanbase
any opinion on the actual point or just here to correct grammar
subculture is the fanbase dont think self-defacing meme irony helps any art
*doesnt help
>as a movement
delete nvm
lofi came from vaporware ... the movement is changing not dying. can we make it smn bigger than a genre?
I dunno about revolutionary, but BARCHboi is one of the most fiercely original vaporwave songwriters I've heard, and he's still making fresh stuff
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not really desu, don't get me wrong i'll always respect the movement and genre but at this point i only listen to like 2 artists who rarely put stuff out as it. I've moved on user, you should too
Vektroid
This is some TOP-QUALITY sampling.
what IF the sound is not changing but evolving
lofi hip hop is coming from vaporware, which makes more obvios that the genre is indeed dying
to be reborn like a phoenix
exactly... isn't this lofi-vaporwave movement the perfect excuse to make a stand for whatever we want?
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This canned response wouldn't have been funny even if it made a lick of sense.
Vaporwave isn't a genre, it's not a movement, it's a joke. It's a meme that's been edgy and cool since 2011. Vaporwave can't die, because it was never alive to begin with.
I was serious. I heard some really good, almost YTPMV levels of sample manipulation there.
Thinking about it now, it would be a really good idea to combine the two genres, they already have some musical and aesthetic things in common.
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congrats on the dubs
maybe the genre dying is part of the genre itself, like if its part of the asthetic and the essence of the movement
>vaporwave isnt a genre
wrong
So it's just in a constant state of somewhere between life and death, almost like the genre is in a constant limbo?
Whoa.
You're right but there are still some artists that are intriguing to follow and usually try new things in their music.
>deathsdynamicshroud.wmv
>チェスマスター
> t e l e p a t h テレパシー能力者
>Golden Living Room
>ESPRIT 空想
>haircuts for men
Well shit, some of the cynicism in here must have rubbed off on me because I really thought that was sarcasm.
Yeah, I can say I agree. In fact, I think this is in the vein of what you're suggesting:
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Seeing a vaporwave thread this active on the weekend kind of says things about the genre and the people into it.
congrats on the dubs
maybe the genre dying is part of the genre itself, like if its part of the asthetic and the essence of the movement
>following artists
>not finding one off chopped droning elevator albums about death
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new age for tumblritas
THIS IS AMAZING
the death of vaporware is part of the vaporware itself... the question is, can we change that?
Well, they DO call it "hauntological" music, so that's not too far off from some of the ideas that have been put out there so far.
>60 posts
>16 IPs
so this is the power of the vaporwave community
is it the ghost of the proletariat?
what subculture do YOU suggest?
not being an underage retard clinging to cringy subcultures is what I'd suggest
at least somebody's checking IPs for once
its just bantz lighten up
then what the hell are you ding here in the first place.. THIS is a subculture isn't it? want it or not, you're now taking a role in it
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>uses the "word" cringy
>accuses others of being underage
OMEGA FUCKING LUL
>2017
>m e m e w a v e
why is still this thing?
This is pretty misleading. If you click on most any other general thread on the catalog, you'll see about 3-4 posts per IP average.
I think the most concrete thing I can say is that it challenges the assumption that capitalist utopia has brought about an "end to history".
猫 シ Corp. makes the best shit.
agreed the meme side of the genres less interesting
Ama I am vaporguru
Dont really consider him vaporwave since he only borrows in instrumentals and thats it.
This guy was Pretty spot on til he got to the last scentence
this is a genuinely stupid thing you are implying
>Infinity Frequencies
>Midnight Television/Computer Slime
>18CaratAffair
>Internet Club
>Western Digital (if we are talking who even is that underground)
>Talking about a 5 year old genre based off of a gimmick.
>has his own definition of underground that is probably conflated with the term indie and probably barely applies to this genre that is already non mainstream and semi underground
>99%
>Zoinks,jpg
This Is a great way to describe it
Other than the ones I listed and others listed
>R23x
>Nxxxxxs
>Deathsdynamicshroud
>Esprit
>Majority of Dream Catalogue
>and what everyone posted so far
Im confused as to where you got lost.
lofi didnt come from vaporwave. Unless you are talking about the whole *beats to study to type lofi* than yeah i guess it had a hand in it but this statement sort of makes it seem like the movement is majority rotating towards it which isnt true.
I feel as if you could say this for any new genre or movement that pops up since a new thing can just do unexpected shit when it develops and all it does is change slowly until it stagnates and dies. New Ideas and fresh styles/takes are still coming from it though.
Explain yourself because this just seems like a nothing statement. The only real things you claimed is that it is a meme and that it isnt a genre. Yes it is a meme (No one was really arguing this fact.) and a genre (there really isnt anything to argue with this point so I want you to actually explain yourself.
basically this
Not really saying its everlasting power or some shit its a 5 year subculture.
how about this
>Says cringy
>calls someone who bantered at him an underage retard
Id like to buy a vowel (You)
noice
Yeah I stay clear of this minus a few reaction images like pic related
However you get your shits and kicks my nigg
>daily reminder there are still people who havent fuckin URAP URAP yet
Anyone here hyped for the new Esprit project?
This is aMAZing, my god! Any more like it?
>OMEGA FUCKING LUL
jesus christ is everyone in this general straight from reddit
Terrible """"""""""""'genre""""""""""""' for terrible people.
sage
this sounds like a personal grudge, more bumps for my favorite thread though
If you haven't already, listen to Far Side Virtual. Also onestop.mid if you just like MIDI music. Overall, though, this guy is pretty unique.
underrated
>being this clueless about a genre and reducing it to 2-3 artists from 2012 that are no longer influential in the scene
or
>arguing with these fucks
I don't know what's worse
thats bullshit you know those posts refence other things
>implying I'm about to argue with you about this
have a (you) my man
like a dozen artists were mentioned
Also, there's some good video game aesthetic stuff out there of a similar nature:
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by the people defending vaporwave
yeah god forbid something has fans
Why listen to memetic vapotrash when you can listen to city pop and 80's new age and synth music?
its the same thing retard
I don't think you really understand what I'm getting at
reread my original post and think about it
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unless all those reccs sound like artists you can name its disrespectful generalizing
bruh
okay
I was referring to non-fans of vaporwave who generalise about it and still believe macintosh plus is the best the scene has to offer
and to people who waste their time on threads like these trying to educate them
don't get me wrong I love vaporwave but Sup Forums is really toxic about it, better off just enjoying it elsewhere
macintosh plus is an milestone for the style and those shitting on it seem so angry I must fight back its user bantz end of the day
Is this thread not the vaporwave general?
wrong
vaporwave is the electro-swing of the 2010's
>>For You - Tatsuro Yamashita
Jesus Christ thank you for posting this user, i got curious and im blasting the entire album now. It's a fucking musical goldmine.