Yes. That's right capitalism is the biggest cancer plaguing the west. We need national socialism now more than ever.
Capitalism benefits from open borders and immigration. Immigration is a good example, as whites are not reproducing, the capitalist Jews import millions of third worlders who will keep their system of exhortation alive and provide a supply of cheap labor. Companies openly advocate for work visas because it provides them with cheap labour (thus more profit) leaving the native population fitting to compete with jobs with poo in the loos and other immigrants.
Free trade is cancerous for a society as it kills home grown industries and exports millions of jobs overseas all in the name of profit? The native worker? He is left to starve. If you want to kill NEETdom then create fucking job programs or create jobs in general. NEETdom and laziness and lack of direction among the youth are just symptons of a greater problem. We need to nationalize the corporations so they work in the benefit of the people and the state and not for their own self-interest. But capitalism is international it doesn't give a fuck about creating jobs for the benefit of the society or country or nation or race it is about profit for the corporation and their shareholders.
Culture becomes another profit making tool. Instead of the entertainment industry promoting good values that benefit society, they promote degeneracy because that's what sells and makes the most profits. Capitalism destroys any and all culture. You can see it everywhere you look from the TV shows to the music to the movies to the books. All trash. In a national socialist society we would have the entertainment industry all actively promoting fatherhood or motherhood.
Capitalism teaches people to be overtly individualistic to the point of neglecting their fellow man and society. It's all about me, me, me. National socialism allows the society to form a collective identity which strengths unity and maintains peace and stability. You help your fellow men under national socialism and class and education doesn't
Capitalism by its very nature creates great amounts of wealth and income inequality which transfers the power from the people to the very few elite who use their great wealth for their own advantage instead of benefiting the collective society.
I can go on and on.
Aiden Baker
So move to Venezuela commie faggot
James Walker
class and education* doesn't fragment society into different classes.
Gabriel Smith
I agree completely
National Socialist thread.
Brandon Taylor
Bumping for educational purposes
Redditors and tmblrinas should know more about this before they say ,but ,but nazis.
Adrian Green
>national socialism is communism Okay kid
Jonathan Ross
Venezelua is neither socialism nor national socialism.
Nice argument though, faggot.
Even Stephan Molymeme the king of anarcho-capitalism is moving away from capitalism and free market idealogy.
Jacob Barnes
The cheap labor meme was debunked long ago. Capitalism simply outsources production. Mass immigration is caused by socialist politcians.
You're a low IQ aboriginal.
Blake Kelly
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Robert Bennett
you triggered moor?
Isaiah Young
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Nathan Evans
Hello fellow nigger.
Logan Harris
>national socialism It still was pretty capitalistic wasn't it? They heavily regulated (or took over?) the finance aspect of it, and added worker protection with mandatory vacations and stuff, and public health, and somehow managed near 100% employment, etc... It always seemed to me like they "fixed" capitalism.
Evan Ramirez
Venezelua is socialist and anti-capitalist you retarded cuck
Jackson Taylor
And Somalia is a libertarian paradise. What's your point?
Aaron Stewart
>shitting on capitalism instead of communism
William Brooks
Nazi Germany allowed people to own private property to encourage competition and innovation but it had to be in the interests of the nation. Which makes perfect sense.
Christian Clark
capitalism and sjws go hand in hand nowdays
Asher Brown
Really though, both aren't ideal
Brandon Sanders
You can thank communism for that.
Grayson Sullivan
How did that work though? I assume the "great industries" were more heavily monitored and controlled, and I got that finance was too (they didn't trust any of that jewish trickery!), but the rest must have worked pretty much like they (should) do in ordinary capitalist economies?
Charles Flores
100% employment might be easier when you're constantly killing people. Maybe.
Adrian Davis
kek! Good point. They must have been constantly running out of people.
Jayden Wright
Well it looks like they got to full employment in 1939. Fuck man, we could have full employment with socialism.
Robert Young
>Even Stephan Molymeme the king of anarcho-capitalism is moving away from capitalism and free market idealogy. No, he isn't.
Benjamin Evans
Huh. Interesting! That might not have been sustainable though. >with socialism That's not what they were though. Not really. That's why they seem so interesting to me. They seemed like a strange hybrid.
Hunter Nguyen
...I don't think you understand what national socialism is you silly cunt
Ryan Cruz
There's different levels of socialism.
Look Sup Forums, you're going to have to admit that the Nazis were socialists. There is no getting around it. Their policies were socialist, and their society was based around working for the good of the society rather than the individual.
They were socialists.
Christopher Morris
I'm super fuckin' comfy under this capitalist system. Qt girls nice dinners I don't need more than that I'm ez to please thanks capitalism
Kayden Walker
>bashing capitalism >uses the Internet or a computer
This. The Nazi's just mastered a conceptually interesting political philosophy that won't die (and for a good reason).
Liam Jones
I've never seen a cool looking communist in my lifetime. Even their idols I've never liked a single fucking picture or symbol they've put forward. It just all seems so anathema to me that I fucking hate it. I hate it like the fucking plague that it is.
Jackson Sanders
Proof that Capitalism>Fascism lies in the fact that the West consistently outproduced Germany, and Britain maintained a higher GDP per capita than Germany throughout the war even in 1940 and 1941 when Germany had access to Polish and French industry. If National Socialism was so good they wouldn't have started a war they couldn't win and they wouldn't have been in a situation where they couldn't have won the second world war. Fuck Britain up until Churchill took over practically tried to make Germany a super power again, actively sabotaging French and Belgian attempts to enforce Versailles and signing a naval treaty with Germany that defied Versailles behind the backs of France and Italy.
Connor Lewis
I really don't understand how a traditionalist can believe in unfettered international capitalism and free trade.
If you let the markets decide everything, you will be left with a consumerist culture who values money above everything else. And this will be okay because muh invisible hand.
As if letting the dregs of society guide it is a good idea.
Zachary Cox
>Venezelua is socialist and anti-capitalist No. They're a free market capitalist nation of the FUCKED UP variety. Their government had a lot of socialist-like policies (but the cabal behind it wasn't even really left leaning a few years before they took over). But they are very, very corrupt. They nationalized the oil and they made a gamble. They took huge risks with the whole nation and it didn't work. Now they cannot recover mainly because they lack allies (the US made sure of it).
Wyatt Jones
>Hitler lowered the German unemployment rate by 6 million I'm just saying
Zachary Clark
The computer was state subsidized you absolute fucking imbecile. Most of the technology that we have today started off in the public sector from spending on defense research. Thanks for proving my point.
Jace Howard
Business makes the world go round. Egalitarian fantasy off please. We are not all equal.
Jeremiah Butler
See, there's nothing wrong with capitalism. It's an awesome system capable of producing the most wealth and life improvements. It only becomes a problem when you stop regulating it altogether, thus allowing money to rule even internal political decisions and allowing your own industries to fall because they can't compete with foreign companies that might use slave labor and such.
Jordan Flores
National Socialism is not communism you fucking retard. You lolbertarians do know that you need to be at least 18 years old to post here right?
Elijah Bennett
>proof that capitalism > fascism is that higher GDP >GDP is an absolute measure of happiness, health, and a cohesive society that can sustain itself >unironically believes Hitler started the war >unironically thinks not being capitalist is why Germany lost
Austin Murphy
Doesn't matter. Their demographics more clearly reflect ours than some Scandinavian country.
When you have "diversity" (it's our strength!!!) you cannot ever risk socialism or communism. Because egalitarianism is a fucking lie and you know it's a lie.
You live in a country with 40,000,000 NIGGERS COMMUNISM WILL LITERALLY NEVER WORK WITH 40 FUCKING MILLION NIGGERS. IT WON'T WORK WITH 40MILLION FUCKING JAPANESE, LET ALONE NIGGERS YOU FUCKING FUCK. AND JAPANESE ARE ATLEAST HIGH TIER LIKE WHITES.
Nicholas Reyes
Venezuela is literally a socialist country.
>Even Stephan Molymeme the king of anarcho-capitalism is moving away from capitalism and free market idealogy. No he's not.
Logan Moore
Commies have no idea how to deal with black violence, despite them already getting gibs, walking around in expensive clothes (and cars sometimes too) yet still being fucking broke because they spend all their money on hos drugs and bling.
Socialism plus racial homogeny is very different than socialism. In an all white society, virtually any philosophy would work
Liam Young
Both are anti-traditional and far too economically focused to be healthy. Stop falling for the Marxist meme that capitalism and communism are the only choices
Julian Morgan
>Socialists praise venezuela a decade ago >Socialism fails like clockwork and they call it a capitalist state >Hugo Chavez literally described himself as a marxist >They literally have nationalized industries like oil You people are fucking retarded
Jordan Gomez
Wew too many people think in black and white. Capitalism and Socialism/Communism are just 2 sides of the same coin. So is the "left and the right" political system. Democracy is a failed system because you can only vote for the people who have been hand picked by the elite.
Logan Brown
OP's pic is bait, right?
Hunter Collins
>Egalitarian fantasy off please Are you clinically retarded? Egalitarianism is the foundation of democratic capitalist nations. Notice that none of your political parties would dare speak out against egalitarianism while falling over themselves to pass the latest free trade deal.
They all have collective amnesia and believe Western civilization started after the French revolution.
>Hitler was a communist I can see your leaf, no need to say something so stupid.
Dylan Bell
>There's different levels of socialism.
I'm OK with that. I think the west is in deep trouble right now (Sup Forums sees that) because it is unable to develop a form of free market socialism that works for it and its culture (possibly because the corporations have become too powerful to allow it). We're left with half-measures that demoralize people, promote degeneracy and destroy our culture instead.
Capitalism will eventually lead us to socialism naturally, but the results won't be pretty if we don't attempt to keep it under control. It'll probably happen after globalization has destroyed all cultures. We won't be nations of people anymore, just a whole world of serfs.
Oliver Myers
And where is the modern/technological society that national socialism has built?
Oh.. that's right..
Adrian Price
I was unaware freedom of association was cancerous.
Ayden Lopez
Please do commie faggot I would love to hear more how national socialism some how leads into a better society than non-anarcho capitalism.
Noah Green
[this triggers the lolbertarians]
Ryder Brown
Molyjew is a shill that only ascribes to meme philosophy because it gives him views
Charles Jackson
Destroyed by the communist pawns of the Jewish financiers.
Jeremiah Brown
It got you on the moon, you fucking retard.
Pic related. We're doing wonderful right now aren't we, fellow serf?
Easton Phillips
>literal national socialist >commie
Gavin Jenkins
You cannot never have a society that is united that has a strong set of values and culture with free market capitalism. It doesn't work. Capitalism and communism are both internationalist.
A lot of the innovation starts off in the public sector or through corporate subsidizes which gives corporations incentives to spend money on R&D. Do you realize how much of the technology you have today came from public spending on defense research? It's a lot. The money that we spend on defense research is then used to make profits for corporations. Stop being a retard m8.
Ethan Kelly
>socialist and anti-capitalist >Not National Socialism I really hate it when national Socialist cucks like you are trying to make that cuck Ideology into something its not.
Sebastian Brooks
Don't support OP but your argument is fucking retarded since almost everything in our society is a product of capitalism
Joshua Brown
>It got you to the moon
And how has that affected my life in any way? Capitalism could and will provide the same thing more efficiently
Gavin Murphy
put up sanctions on countries using slave labor
if apple proved one thing, it's people don't give a fuck about slavery or bad conditions for other people. Foxconn delivered the iPhones and people bought them knowing it..
Jason Davis
that picture makes a compelling argument
Jaxson Peterson
>dat pic should be titled "why a military industrial complex works"
Grayson Johnson
>american education
Nicholas Parker
What the fuck is up with Australia today? It's been nonstop shitposting all day.
Jack Robinson
>free market capitalism I meant internally. With regulation. International trade could be strictly controlled by the state (capital flow in particular). Only trade with allies that share similar values, protect their workers the same way, and that can be trusted not to cutoff the flow by surprise, etc. Trade deals could be done only after consulting the population and making sure businesses have time to adjust.
Robert Martinez
-> The farmer is striving for money, so he can buy nice things. "Do it for your people" only takes you so far, communism proved that quite clearly.
Josiah Torres
>Capitalism could You think there was money to be made landing on the moon? No, it could not.
>will provide the same thing more efficiently No, Elon Musk will continue to fuel his pet project because he's brilliant. But Space X doesn't turn a profit. Not even close. It only exists because he has a boner for space. The only competitor he has is ENTIRELY focused on low orbit travel for tourism purposes.
Pic related. More glories of the free market.
Robert Nelson
Unemployment went down so much because Hitler got so many german men killed.
James Evans
Basically if someone was caught doing business in an anti-social manner, their assets were seized and they were imprisoned.
So in a NatSoc America, the Waltons and the kikes in charge of Uber would be gassed.
Liam Scott
>the Sup Forums Nazi movement was actually a planned embrace-extend-extinguish attack by Marxists from Reddit who'da thunk it?
Logan Johnson
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David Foster
A lot of the innovation that we credit the private sector with started off initially in the public sector thanks to defense spending. Capitalist cucks will never tell you this though. How does it feel knowing that your tax dollars went into the defense research and large corporations exploit that research which you spend money on to sell you overpriced gadgets?
>No, Elon Musk will continue to fuel his pet project because he's brilliant. But Space X doesn't turn a profit. Not even close. It only exists because he has a boner for space. The only competitor he has is ENTIRELY focused on low orbit travel for tourism purposes. Thanks for proving our point that private charity and private individuals will do these things without government coercion.
David Gomez
>Basically if someone was caught doing business in an anti-social manner, their assets were seized and they were imprisoned. Damn. They codified all that? Being buddy with a few state officials really must have helped staying in business...
And yet capitalists will continue to tell you that the iPhone was the result of free market ingenuity.
Parker Hughes
Eh, c'mon... that's the exception rather than the rule.
Camden Garcia
The industrial revolution and Henry Ford weren't made by the government. No one has said that the government has contributed nothing to technology. The point and the reality is that government redtape makes R&D even harder for businesses and that the government has to tax in order to research itself, which has a crowding out affect for private charities to science.
Camden Perez
60 years later? Yeah, you sure showed me.
A one in a generation autistic billionaire can shoot a rocket out of orbit over half a century later than Germans with government funding.
Justin Long
Socialism doesn't work. Had Hitler won the war his economy would not last long. Socialism is never sustainable. True white nationalist capitalism is the only system which will allow white people to reach their full potential. Every white person working in self interest, competing with each other. Truly only the strongest will thrive, while the weak shall suffer.
Nicholas Walker
>Being buddy with a few state officials really must have helped staying in business... Hardly. Corruption was considered treason and punishable by asset seizure and death for all parties involved.
Hudson Morris
>Truly only the strongest will thrive, while the weak shall suffer. Then you shouldn't be disheartened with mass immigration, free trade and open borders you cuck. Are you too afraid to compete with the rest of the world? Capitalist cucks are never consistent.
Logan Sanchez
But going to the moon has no intrinsic value other than being a dick measuring contest. A lot of the R&D done by private entities are for profit which benefits the people largely.
Brody Lee
Yeah, I get that. NASA seemed like one of the entities through which "economic conversion" (transfer of technology from the military sector to the civilian sector) took place.
It seems like the US' defense industry was a lot more prolific in the past than it is now though. Where will the US finds its new german scientists?
Leo Brooks
Somewhat related to OP's thread: but something disgusting that companies do which is perfectly accepted under capitalism is to ask new candidates that a company is hiring what their current salary is in the hope that he gives an answer lower than what the market rate would be for that position if he was hired.
Disgusting, desu. End rant.
Brayden Miller
and just like capitalism, marxism has historically shown that the elite rule over the rest. Just like any other large-scale government structure in all of history ever
David Lewis
National socialism does work though. The key difference between National Socialism and the more traditional Marxist variants of socialism is that National Socialism is that everything is for the advancement of the people of the nation in question, whereas Marxist socialism and its variants, the system is built to favor the globalist Jews who run it at the expense of everyone else.
Zionism and Marxism are just two sides of the same shekel.
>A lot of the R&D done by private entities are for profit which benefits the people largely Most of the R&D done by private entities are funded by government grants, based off of existing government research/discoveries, and the majority of private R&D at this very moment is related to consumerist software and artificial flavoring.
The best chemists in the world go to work for McDonalds to perfect the saltiness of their french fries and bun coloring.
Nicholas Parker
It's obvious that National Socialism worked for Germany. But facts are racist
Wyatt Richardson
I could be full national socialist if I felt I could trust my countrymen. I can not, and should not, believe that the people in power are qualified or even dedicated to their positions' responsibilities over an over reaching political agenda. Until a country full of like minded people who trust their neighbors give it a try we won't know how well it will work. The last two times there were people put in ghettos or expelled and it worked alright compared to the massive depressions before hand. Eventually a group of rich people will do something like a loose confederation in South America or the Middle East and we might see a meritocracy form, but for now capitalism gives the individual a better chance than the community.
Ian Baker
Let me add that this distribution of talent was what the "market" decided to the detriment of Western civilization.
Jeremiah Wilson
>everything is for the advancement of the people of the nation Thats what every marxist socialist says.
Liam Murphy
Oh those good ol' nazis! Always with the asset seizure and imprisonment and death and such.
That must have been well codified though? Is there a summary somewhere of what those laws looked like?
I bet this is EXACTLY what our jewish friends in wall street would NEVER want to see make a come back.