So explain to me how Trumps muslim ban will stop ISIS?

How do we know that that won't just radicalize more Muslims?

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It doesn't matter if they can't get in.

They'll radicalize no matter what we do. Shitting it down is the only option.

>Stop saying that all Muslims are dangerous or else Muslims will become dangerous

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Honestly in what world does "lets let in more Muslims so they don't get enraged and try to kill us" make sense?

Who gives a shit, they can be radical all they want, in the desert where we drop bombs on them.

They were just fine blowing themselves up before we let them blow us up too.

>Don't stop these non-violent people from entering or they might become violent

t. leftists

Your inner Pajeet slipped out there mate.

If a US ban of entry is what it takes for a Muslim to radicalize, what does it say about that individual in the first place?

We aren't responsible for what radicalizes them, and there are plenty radicalized anyway.
This, if it does radicalize more they won't be here anyway

Because Kek is on our side and he will protect us.

but how do you know who's muslim and who isn't?
>inb4 they're all brown and arab

Obama banned all immigration from Iraq for a few months in 2011, I didn't hear you libs bitching then.

It's obvious that banning immigraiton from Iraq and Syria will greatly stifle terrorist movement, because that's where they fucking live.

>STOP, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM HATE US MORE

Who gives a shit how angry the Muslims are in Germany?
They can radicalize all they want outside our borders as long as we maintain those borders.

>implying all muslims aren't already radical
remove them before they sneak into your politicians and rulers,like they did to Englandistan

>Honestly in what world does "lets let in more Muslims so they don't get enraged and try to kill us" make sense?

It makes sense if, like most leftists, you think you can curry the favor of savages through enough bootlicking.

The left's behavior looks a lot less confusing once you realize that all they're trying to do is save their own hides.

muslims don't have anything to offer anyway, most are backwards people and as seen in Europe, even when they are 2nd-3rd generation immigrants, they don't fit in society.

I'm not even talking about race here.

>Muslim ban
He's changed his position. Now he's just going to suggest Muslims not come here. Everything's a suggestion.

Fuck, this came out like a month ago that he was dropping this shit.

This, kek.

Where the fuck is Iraq mentioned in the first amendment?

We know what countries are majority muslim

Why not radicalize the susceptible ones so we don't have to live in fear of bullshit?

Just let them radicalize, and then kill all the ones that do. If it turns into a war oh well. I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees.

is there anything in the crayola that tells them they can't deny being mudslime?

>a bunch of angry muslims in some other country, and they can't get in

>maybe no angry muslims in your country and any can get in

More towelheads to get blown up, with their deaths broadcast on liveleak and youtube with the nightvision perspective of the gunship

fuck em who needs em

because islam is a religion of peace and the people are moderate and understanding and respectful of countries laws, thus unable to become radicalized simply by a country temporarily closing its borders to "hot zones" infamous for housing terrorists as the US works to tighten its background checking processes. :)

>Everything's a suggestion.
He's technically correct you know, not like the your president has absolute power or something.

>How dare you say that about Islam!
>We are peaceful!
>Stop or we will join the people you are talking about!
>Only out of spite, and not the fact I agree with Isis!

Fpbp

He should ban all foreigners that can't properly identify themselves.
>muslim
>christian
>jew
>agnostic
>hindi
>atheist

Don't let in anyone who's brown.

explain to me how letting more in will stop isis

>giving a shit what Muslims think

Keep them in the middle east and they can do whatever the fuck they want

starve them to near death and offer them a ham sandwich

Or make them touch a piece of ham as initiation

American muslims will snap eventually. It's just a matter of, do you want that to happen now, or do you want to wait until their population is large enough to pose a threat?

Don't they have taqiya if they want to justify pretending not to be muslim so they can bomb shit?

There's some clause in the Constitution that allows the President to ban groups of "hostile aliens" from entering the country. It's been used many times before.

Jimmy Carter banned all Iranian immigration during the Iran Hostage Crisis.

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>if you ban them, they win

If you stop them from killing you, they win

Exactly this.
Unless they are not peaceful.... in which case they should be deported.

did you know that most of isis foreign soldiers comes from Europe ?

That clause doesn't supersede the 1st amendment's ban on the governance of religion.

You can ban all the groups you want as long as they aren't religious groups or reporters.

Or American citizens

>How do we know that that won't just radicalize more Muslims?

if that's all it takes, why are we letting them in again?

Its not supposed to stop ISIS its supposed to stop ISIS from entering the U.S.

To be honest, this mentality DOES demonstrate a belief in meme magic, so it's not completely absurd (just naive). Memeing Islam into an actual religion of peace isn't dank in the slightest

If we let enough in, they'll overthrow the government, erect a caliphate kill us all and then by reference they will know longer be radical.

Why would they 'radicalize' for being banned from going to a country they supposedly hate and don't want to travel to anyway?

Well you see if we stop letting muslims in without properly vetting them they won't be here to commit terrorism.
this is some shit bait.

thats why we ban every country with muslims you fucking retard.

The major (but not the only) source of jihadism comes from the fundamentalist Salafist movement, which is largely concentrated in the wealthy ME states (such as Saudi Arabia), who use oil money to fund violent groups around the world. If you put an economic stranglehold on these manipulators and prevent them from shipping cash, fuel, weapons, and people around, the problem of international jihadism vastly diminishes

That's almost every country you fucking retard.

Well I am guessing under his plan people from your country will be denied entry until a thorough vetting process can be implemented.

Because of your thought process I know you are...

KEKED. AS. FUCK.

>stop mudslimes until problem is solved
>doing this apparently causes all SandCostcos to have clearance sales on suicide vests, machetes and ISIS memberships
>which thereby creates more ISIS to raid with some drones
>rinse and repeat until the sand lands are cleansed

Fucking genius

>Here's your entry visa, and eat this ham sandwich

It's not that difficult when members of a religion are cast into the darkest pits of tartarus for eating certain foods

Obviously not every country that's got a single muslim in it you retard, just the ones like Saudi Arabia and Morroco that are 99+% muslim. Also Albania and Bosnia, cause fuck those slavic cunts

How about ban the fucking Middle-East?

Seems like a good starting point. adurrdurrdurrr

Boston Marathon bombers were Russian, m8.
Most muslims live in SEA

This is as retarded as the old "police officers have to answer 'yes' when you ask if they're a cop" meme. They can do whatever they need for jihad.

>If you put an economic stranglehold on these manipulators and prevent them from shipping cash, fuel, weapons, and people around, the problem of international jihadism vastly diminishes

Too bad greenfags want to cuck the US oil industry and keep buying oil from OPEC instead.

Obama violated federal civil rights law. Discrimination based on national origin is illegal. If Obama doesn't have to obey the law, then who does?

Any Muslim that will "radicalize" due to hostility toward their dumbshit beliefs deserves to be killed anyway. Let their inner durka come out and express itself openly so that we can start eliminating them and clean up the place.

Do you know that virtually all of those foreign soldiers originally came from the MENA region?

Okay, ban Indonesia too. I'm all for it.

In fact, ban all immigration from anywhere but South Korea, Japan, and European countries that have right-wing nationalist governments such as Denmark, Hungary, and Poland.

>he thinks ISIS was created by random "radicalized Muslims" and not human materiel molded by the CIA in Iraqi prison camps

this whole "debate" is an insipid red herring, and unconstitutional

Federal civil rights laws don't protect noncitizens. The first amendment however does restrain the government.

It's a restriction of power vs a protection of rights. Similarly the 5th and 14th's religious protections don't apply to noncitizens.

If someone is non-violent and you "forced" them to become violent through non-physical means, then they weren't non-violent to begin with.

if it's racist to ban entry of muslims to the USA then why does Obama prevent Iranian citizens from entering the USA? Shit even TALKING with an Iranian is against the law.

Why would it radicalize more Muslims by saying they can't migrate to a certain area? If they already "hate out freedom" then it would further prove they do by being pissed we're telling them to piss off.

Meanwhile one of the two at San Bernadino was American and West Texas wasn't even done by a Muslim

This is a stupidly inefficient and unconstitutional way to combat terrorism.

>muslims are radical
>if we don't let any in, they will just radicalize more. therefore, allow unfettered access!

brilliant logic

>implying the intelligence networks would be stopped from moving their terrorist proxies around borders by laws that apply to ordinary peons like us

To be clear, I'm talking about noncitizens outside the country since we're discussing immigration law.

>all this supposedly happened when Hillary was Secretary of State, so let's make her President

Because it's not like terror attacks are carried out universally by domestic Muslims

>MUSLIMS ARE PEACEFUL
>Let them in or THEY'LL BECOME TERRORISTS

wew lad

>This is a stupidly inefficient and unconstitutional way to combat terrorism.

It is still more effective than the current system. Also, it will protect native labor from foreign competition - a big win for the left! :^)

Actually the leader of ISIS was released from an Iraqi prison camp in 2004.

Sure he is calling for it but that wouldn't ever happen
No seriously, describe a scenario in which a law is passed prohibiting muslim immigration

So don't let in darkies or Russians, it's not hard

except commit haram

Who cares if playing Smoke on the Water annoys the tiger? It shouldn't be in the bathroom in the first place.

American oil independence would indeed improve our security and by extension the security of the planet. Unfortunately Saudis will then sell wholesale to the Chinese, creating the petroyuan... which can be countered with a strong economic stance against China and more efforts to bring manufacturing back to US shores. Can't have half-measures here, have to go all the way

They'll not be able to get in
We never said our goal was to stop ISIS
Our goal is to keep them out of our country. If it makes more soldiers I don't give a fuck because y'all motherfuckers have to deal with it not us
Plus it's pretty good payback for both killing based Gadaffi and trying to kill based Assad
Fuck Europastan, you are Gondor and Rhoan will not ride to your defense

>It is still more effective than the current system.
Given the damage it would do to our ties with Muslim nations from which we need military and intelligence support, not to mention Muslim communities within our own country viewing the government with distrust, that's unlikely.

Idiots. Just by bringing them here it still radicalize them. They'll just segregate themselves from the rest of the country trying to create a new state and the ones who aren't radical are radicalized by one jihadi. So the jihadi will recruit more people. Apart of being a leftist is lacking foresight.

They aren't citizens so how is it unconstitutional?

"Have a slice of bacon, courtesy of customs."

Who can resist a free slice of bacon?

yeah no shit, we already know europe is the land of isis

>making bizarre assumptions about me

The 5th and 14th amendment protects citizens from the government treating them differently for their religion.

The 1st just says government can't fuck with religion or the press in general.

It'd be just as constitutional to ban all noncitizen reporters from entering the country.

The ties we have with Muslim nations at the moment are what has been doing the most damage. Support of the regimes of Saudi Arabia and Qatar have directly led to the spread of radical Salafi and Wahhabi doctrine throughout the Muslim world. Most Muslim countries are a total lost cause at this point, and we'd be better off leaving them to their own devices and developing better relationships with Latin America and the non-Muslim parts of Asia. The rest of the world would be better served cutting off the Muslims entirely and leaving them to rot until they all kill each other or start to clean up their act.

vegetarians?

...

>the leaders of muslim nations give a single fuck.
>We shouldn't offend a small minority group in America to keep America safe

it doesn't matter. The more muslims a country has the more dangerous it will be. Muslims are not peaceful and they are not your friend. Your telling us that banning a group of people that wants to stone women to death from entering our country is evil.
Fuck off kike.

>own a store
>some slob comes in with no shirt on and no shoes on
>decide to put up a sign the next day that says "NO SHIRT NO SHOES NO SERVICE"
>moderate shoe/shirt not-wearers (people who only sometimes don't wear shoes or shirts in the privacy of their own homes and communities) see the sign and feel alienated
>suddenly all these moderates are angry at my racism and decide to not wear shoes or shirts anymore in public
>they come into my store without shoes or shirts and set off suicide bombs
Liberal logic.

It's a regional ban, not a ban based on religion. Note that Obama, along with many presidents before him, have enacted regional bans without great complaint, and they are not unconstitutional.

>Latin America
There's probably more beheadings in Mexico than Syria on any given day.

Great plan, trade terrorist supporting politicians for drug dealer owned politicians, that will lower the death toll in the USA.

You don't want them either mate