Stage 21, Autodromo Nazionale Monza - Milano ITT; 29.3 KMs
This is it friends, the final reckoning Can the Big guy T O M overtake the colombian mountain goat (aswell as >pinot and the NIBBLER) or will he slip out on a pile of shit crashing dutch Giro hopes with no survivors?
for relevant comparison, the timegaps the other top 5 riders had to big tom in the first TT of 39.8 km
1.Tom +0 POER GAP 7. Nibble +2:07 12. Zakkarin +2:19 small power gap 19. >pinot +2:42 23. Nairobi can'tana +2:53 27. ultra manlet pozzo +3:07
pic related is the 'profile' of todays TT
Justin Powell
They need to have more total ITT distance in GTs and ban powermeters and HR monitors.
Anthony Price
for utter memes make 1 mountain stage (~150km) and one flat stage (~180km) ITTs also remove TTTs
Alexander Nelson
/f1/ /cyc/ /indy500/ is today the greatest day?
Jackson Williams
I don't think I've ever been so hyped for a time trial.
Brandon Kelly
>indy500
check yourself m8
Jaxson Lee
also tottis last match for AS roma
Brandon Watson
'MON BIG TOM
I'm only /cyc/ but yes.
Oliver Rogers
I'll only watch it to see if alonso does well. If he does good then it's babby racing.
Landon Hill
Today can become the biggest day in Dutch cycling history ..I'm so freaking scared Tom will choke.. FUCK
Lincoln James
The only reason a +2hr TT over mountains (for example) sounds absurd to most people is because we are not used to it. There is no reason one can't implement something like that. Heck it even used to be a thing back in the day. They had a 139km long ITT back in 1947.
The monitors and meters do not add anything to safety, only makes it easier to "control" the race (read: make it more boring). They have got to go. It's costing the organizers money indirectly.
Tyler Carter
Hirt's gonna win the pink today. The TOP 10 all gonna crash and die on an oil spill.
Camden Williams
Pppppppiiiiiiinnnnnnooooootttttt
Dylan Sullivan
Aww shit, we're already up? There's still an hour and a half until we go live. Not that I don't get it though, woke up hype as fuck and am literally counting the minutes.
Joshua Gray
Wonder if the slight descent will pose any trouble for >Pinot.
Joseph Cox
The reason for not doing that is the ridiculous time gaps it would create. The race will be all about the TT then.
Owen Mitchell
I don't know what you're complaining about, 2017 has been an outstanding year for cycling, from the spring classics to now
Josiah Wood
all sprinters will fail to make the time
Owen Morales
True it's been pretty decent, but without data assistance it would be even better. Mountain stages especially would be better.
Julian Nguyen
Starting time for the top 10?
Caleb Flores
Manlet riders have been given too many breaks in the last 10 years. You are not supposed to win multiple GTs if you can't ride against the clock at all.
Elijah Ortiz
Imagine if the climbers have to go early in the mountain stages and the chase have no pacing assistance looking at the monitor. THAT is racing.
Dominic Martinez
without power meters riders like wiggins and dumoulin and indurain would have turned into crazy attackers in the mountains!
ban power meters all you want, it's not going to change how races are raced.
Levi Young
dude, NO one can attack 3 weeks into a GT mountain stage because doping is so stringently monitored and the top GC contenders are all genuinely battered to an inch of their life by this point. You're glorifying the panache of madmen attackers like Contador or Pantani who could ONLY look like gods among their peers because of blood doping.
Michael Russell
Agreed on the ITT distance, and not just because I'm Dutch. It's quite sad that Quintana, who is obviously not 100% and mediocre in the mountains for his standards can still find his way to the lead of a GC on the last day. I think a GC should be decided by who's the strongest rider overall, not just who's the strongest climber. A strong climber should still be able to win ofcourse, if he's strong enough in the mountains to distance his opponents enough to turn back the time deficit from the ITTs. For this reason I'd also love to see some stages similar to Paris Roubaix or Strade Bianchi put into the Tour or Giro more often. For example I don't like Nibbles at all but watching Fuglsang and him catch out the mountain goats on the cobbles in the 2014 (?) TdF was great.
Levi Peterson
This
TT specialists will always ride like that, power meter or no. Its the way they are at their best. Also the effect of powermeters on racing is severly overrated. Riding tempo is best done on feeling, powermeters are more of a training tool than anything else.
Jace Ross
Are they starting in the order of the general classification?
Brandon Russell
Outside of doping, the issue with mountain stages being more defensive is how strong the domestiques are now. The 2nd to 5th riders on the strongest teams can chase down almost anything.
You're not getting away from Poels, Thomas, Henao, Nieve for long. You're not getting away from Valverde, Amador, Ancona, Izagirre, Herrada for long.
Liam Parker
>TT specialists will always ride like that, power meter or no
Agree, but with more TT mileage and no meter it forces the others to attack earlier and makes them way harder to control with team riding.
Colton Edwards
Yes, but reversed. As usual.
James Morales
Poels makes me proud I have the same last name
Ian King
So just disband sky and movistar? Sounds good to me :^)
Hunter Johnson
Okay, cool. Thanks!
Brody Taylor
Pass literally next to my house. G O A T stage
Lincoln Martinez
Hold up a >pinot sign
John Long
There are levels in between Pantani on Les Deux Alpes and Gruppo Compatto, obviously.
Joshua Martinez
always this
Colton Anderson
I was in Italy in 2008 when the last stage of that year's Giro traversed through the cobbles around Rome and the Forum, it was glorious. Wish I still had the pictures but my old hard drive crashed years ago
>great talent who is also a doper has an uncanny advantage over competitors you don't fucking say
Jeremiah Morgan
Don't paint a black or white scenario then.
Chase Rivera
write it in green ofc
Jack Edwards
Well Quintana has lost a couple of GTs already because Movistar's JUST level tactics on flat stages.
Jonathan Young
HR monitors and power metres have been around for nearly 20 years now. Totally the reason for 'boring' GTs, not the fact everyone was on the GAS.
Carson Scott
greentext pinot on the road, do it faggot
Christopher Hughes
write CABAL A B A L
on all the roads
Levi Lewis
Pinot on the podium would be very nice. He deserves it. He's not a wheel sucker or a pace baby
Andrew Cook
most based podium: 1. Dumoulin 2. Pinot 3. Zakarin
Ian Rogers
Everyone knows that. It's still desirable to remove assistance that makes the race more boring. Even if it's a small improvement. They add nothing to the show.
too hungover to get out if bed don't think I can even make it downstairs to the tv to watch Pinot win
Ian Davis
I don't think I've ever been so hyped for a last day of a grand tour.
Robert Taylor
Hope pinot makes top 3
Oliver Morales
It's currently 29C in Milan
Christian Bennett
Poland stronk.
Landon Gutierrez
slight headwind for most of the TT T O M
Lincoln Watson
He can't recover more than 1 minute at the third week.
Damn you niggas be crazy.
Angel Walker
Lemond needed to recover 50 seconds on Fignon and got 58, in a 25km ITT stage
Jackson Garcia
Both Quintana and Nibbler are absolute dogshit at TTs. And everyone is spent.
Henry Morris
He has two key advatnages: tech not yet adopted by most folks Didn't fignon also have really bad saddle sores?
Joshua Peterson
Here's what's going to happen
On the first chrono, Quintana will still be only about 10 seconds behind Dumoulin and people will start believing he's got what it takes to keep up. But then on the 2nd chrono, he'll be like 50 seconds behind Dumoulin, making us realize he just started off too fast. Then on the finish, Dumoulin will beat Quintana by 90 seconds and win the Giro
Mason Lee
why does even the most shit rider on a team always get a team support car trailing them for an ITT? Does each team have like 5 cars or are they recycling 1 or 2 of them (one rider finishes, the other car drives back to the start line?)
William Sullivan
That's a lie. Nibali is not as shit as Quintana. Look at his face. Poor frog. Wasn't Fignon a TT specialist?
Jack Cook
*bialoblocks your path*
Jaxon Allen
anyone got a stream?
Jacob Gray
Fignon was specialist in climbing, but that time there were lots of ITT stages on big tours and some of them were in climbings.
From Wikipedia >In 1984, Hinault moved to the new La Vie Claire team, established by the French entrepreneur Bernard Tapie and directed by Swiss coach Paul Koechli. Fignon stayed with the Renault team, and became team leader. In the 1984 Giro d'Italia, Fignon was in the lead near the end of the race, with Italian Francesco Moser in second place. The highest mountain stage, where Fignon could have extended his lead as the better climber, was cancelled by race organizers "due to bad weather". In one of the more outrageous actions of a major tour, on the final stage, an individual time trial, camera helicopters flew in front of Fignon, creating a headwind, and behind Moser, creating a tailwind. Though Fignon repeatedly shook his fists at the obstructing aircraft, they refused to move off. Moser ended up gaining enough time to take the overall race lead, with Fignon being moved back to second place. He later said the experience made him tougher, and prepared him for the hardships to come.
Jackson Reyes
italians i swear....
treacherous tomatos
Joseph Nguyen
Typical french cuck. Eh, not proud.
Charles Hughes
Based Jos van Emden destroying everyone
Carter Collins
Disgusting. If they do that openly imagine what kind of stuff they do when no one is looking...
Jace Wright
The exact same thing the frogs did = doping worse than horses.
