Calling anyone that has a degree and is scientifically literate...

Calling anyone that has a degree and is scientifically literate. Please express your views below about transgenders/traps and the last research project you’ve been involved with.
Also trap thread.

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They're fucking gay, you homo.

Traps a bit gay, but who the fuck cares besides imbiciles whose ideas will eventually die like them.

Also recent project is working on directed evolution in wheat crop to prevent fusarium head blight.

Hmm, I don’t hear any credibility. Go back to your manual labor job you uneducated peasant and I’ll continue to profit off of your misfortune.

living in LA, we get quite a bit of the whole femboy/shemale/trap scene. I quietly go to a known trans/gay bar, flirt a bit with a cutie, get my dick sucked and call it a day. maybe once in a while ill roam to Sup Forums for a trap thread, if they're really fem and cute ill keep their number and we'll be fwb. never date, would never marry, or introduce to literally anyone i personally know. THAT is the extent of how a literate adult male in Los Angeles views traps.

Would that change if they were actually accepted by society for you personally? Just curious.

ALSO, traps are 100% gay. no matter how feminine, or cute, the incentive here is the PENIS belonging to the cute-deceptive male. its gay. just don't be delusional or in denial. like what you like, you don't have to share your innermost thoughts with everybody, but don't lie to yourself.

Stephen hawking here. Traps are gay

maybe, but my family is incredibly " old school " religious/rich in culture, not from America is about as descriptive as I'll get, and never in a million years could any form of homosexuality be accepted. Also, it only matters as much as you make it matter. I was " jokingly " trying to hook my best friend up with a few traps because he lost a bet a few years back, but in all honesty i'd just been using that as an excuse to fly under the radar while DM'ing all these slutty femboys muahahahaha

Seems legit. Now give me a scientific reason why gays are inferior

are you serious? reproductive capabilities? built in lube? naturally releasing estrogen??

Don’t buy 100% gay. I’d plow this if they had a vagina or dick.

gays are superior

then you are BI sexual, as both sex's are within your reproductive radar.

Depends on if that’s what you look for in a partner. Reproduction < Sex. (In any circumstance) Lube > No lube. Lol how does the mode in which a person gets their estrogen make them inferior?

Traps is gey

Who is that in the pic?

Truth

Jane Marie

Also, who are these two in the pics.

Radiochemist here, so not really to do with the subject, but traps are gay and transgenderism is bullshit.

Why do you feel that way? Also please elaborate on "trangenderism"

Computer Science fag here.

Everything is binary, but there is mental illness.

thank you doc.

also this

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traps are gay. can't deny that. you're attracted to them because they have dicks otherwise you'll be searching for real women.

last research project was about facial attractiveness in men and face asymmetry

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I don't have a degree in a scientific field, but I did start out under Psychology before switching to law/poli sci.

From a cognitive/logical stand point, it's simply absurd to determine that you should be another gender. You have never lived as that gender, yet you think you should be it? You think you don't fit the mold of what your gender is, so you let sociological precepts, which are not universal, guide your views of being of the other gender? There are countless flaws with the logic from the start, before you even get into the whole "transitioning literally only changes the outside part of you, why would you feel any different about how you live?" part.

For that reason, I don't believe it should lose classification as a mental disorder. Not illness, because the connotation for that label, in my opinion, should remain as something curable and that OUGHT to be cured. But as a disorder we can understand it as a malfunction while not necessarily viewing the one living with it as a pariah. It also is no surprise that you find transgenderism to be co-morbid with just about any psychological issue you can think of.

As far as how we interact with them, I have no problem viewing a transgender as the gender they desire to be, so long as they truly live as that gender all the time. Some simply completely transfer to that new identity and live it, that's fine. I also don't view crossdressers/traps as transgenders, that is just fetishism. However, I do not feel that any transgender person has the right of demand when it comes to pronouns. Being referred to by your biological/birth gender is factually correct and not at all wrong. While it is a certain matter of respect to refer to them as the gender they prefer, it isn't a necessity and it really barely even falls away from polite conversation. Plus, it IS a necessity to break from that convention when it's about their physical health, men and women have very different biological needs.

If yyou are attracted to traps, you are by definition bi or gay. I'm not so much a scientist as I am simply not a fucking retard.

Thanks

I feel the first statement doesn't need further explanation really, if there is attraction from a man to a man it doesn't matter what the second man looks like, they can be as feminine as they like but it is still homosexuality.

I guess I define transgenderism as this relatively recent push into acceptance from those who identify as transgender, and the resulting people doing whatever they can not to offend anyone. If you're born male, you're male, if you're born female, you're female, gender and sex are often seen as the same thing for a reason, identification doesn't come into biology. If you identify as a helicopter, something you clearly are not, no one would be tripping over themselves to accept that as it's obviously a ridiculous assertion, and though identifying as the opposite sex isn't as extreme, it is as biologically incorrect.

They're gay but like why would you care you can enjoy them anyway

Further to this though, and as others have said, there is mental illness, which is what I think being transgender classes as a mild form of. It's a delusion, really.

Some good definitions to reference during a conversation. Source Merriam-Webster's Dictionary
Homosexual
1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex a homosexual man was involved in a homosexual relationship
2 : of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between persons of the same sex homosexual acts
Bisexual
1 a : possessing characters of both sexes and especially both male and female reproductive structures : hermaphroditic bisexual flowers
b : of, relating to, or characterized by sexual or romantic attraction to members of both sexes; also : engaging in sexual activity with partners of more than one gender
2 : of, relating to, or involving both sexes bisexual reproduction
Sexuality
: the quality or state of being sexual:
a : the condition of having sex
b : sexual activity
c : expression of sexual receptivity or interest especially when excessive

agreed, i don't think anyone in this thread believes that doing things with them is straight.

then you're half gay but in the end it's the same thing son

I don't feel like looking for the comparison image, but are you saying that fucking a 100% passable trans girl who still has a dick is gayer than fucking a 100% trans dude who stull has a pussy?

You'd feel more comfortable fucking a male-looking face and body than you would a female-looking face and body? You're solely absorbed in the genitals, which are otherwise hidden 99.9% of the time?

Not the guy you were replying to, but they are both gay

Not that user but by a technical definition yes its less gay dick + puss = not gay while dick +dick = gay. Now im going for my masters in psych and sexuality is a tad more complicated than that. But at a pure technical definition stand point fucking buck angel is less gay than bailey jay

So one action is predicated not on the appearance, but of the possession of different genitals than expected, yet the other action is only predicated on the appearance....

Nice consistency

>For that reason, I don't believe it should lose classification as a mental disorder.
I agree
> I do not feel that any transgender person has the right of demand when it comes to pronouns.
also agree but i think it's a dick move if you know someone's trying to present as the opposite sex and you call them the other pronoun. (it's like call a black dude a nigger and expecting him not to get mad)

Your view seems almost verbatim of mine. I enjoy there are others like me.

So it isn't gay to be attracted to the secondary sexual characteristics of men, but is gay to be attracted to the secondary sexual characteristics of women?

Hence why i said sexuality is a tad more complicated.

if we’re going to have a scientific discussion, what do you guys think of this? ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26498424/

Oh no, of course. If you know them, or explicitly know that within the circle you're in (friends, professional, whatever) they are known/referred to as that gender and you go out of your way to say the other way, then it's a dick move. That's just purposely making a statement and using that person to do it.

I meant more like the right as far as leveraging social condemnation on the other person, or like in Canada where misgendering is punishable as a form of hate speech (I believe, that may not be totally correct)

Traps are Gay and you're all fags.

>inb4 le sassy fag californian types out "le illiterate wagecuck pleb!" while weeping because his life has no real meaning

If you are sexually attracted to traditionally masculine features you are gay.

If you are sexually attracted to traditionally female features, but only because they also have male genitalie, then you are gay.

Get fucked bitch.

yeah you’re incorrect and get your news from pol or something lol
there’s laws/fines in canada about government employees purposefully misgendering because it’s kind of a clear case for malicious intent, this is just them covering their own ass so they don’t get dragged into a discrimination case which makes sense

Oc posting

on traps: *shrug* let them be how they want. it doesn't matter to me.

imo, human sexuality is a spectrum, and gender identity is yet another fucking social fabrication (like religion, country, race, sports team, ...).

I am a physicist involved in several dark matter detection experiments.

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mmmmmm watchu think about this dark matter hunny~?

Last part of your post is 100% bullshit but I agree with everything else

>if there is attraction from a man to a man it doesn't matter what the second man looks like, they can be as feminine as they like but it is still homosexuality
Depends on how you define it. I define it as follows
>gender and sex are often seen as the same thing for a reason, identification doesn't come into biology
Definitely agree with that, but looking at it from a biological standpoint, transgenders are variations of the population that have a mental disorder just as someone with autism has: they can not help it and therefore you shouldn't laugh in their face about their disability that they are unable to accept the reality of their situation.
>biologically incorrect
is not a term that makes much sense. Genetic mutations throughout a population create random novel differences throughout the species and therefore any variation is neither correct or incorrect, it merely is inevitable. Only in the eyes of natural selection can something be selected out or in.

Interesting perspective, I enjoyed hearing it for sure and glad you shared in such a coherent manner. thanks

ok rob california

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what, you think physicists don't look at Sup Forums? gtfo faggot

that's still absurd, they're biologically that gender. It isn't false, so it criminalizes factual information.

That's legally enforcing courtesy

Do you think this mental disorder is genetic or acquired?

What? You don't think everything here is an artistic work of fiction? Gtfo nigger

Trap research from the university of you're a fucking faggot lol

Work at UNT at the astronomy lab on my physics major

It’d only be gay if you were into reverse traps, as you’d then be attracted to the masculinity of the person. Regular traps however the reason why you’re attracted to them is for femininity and feminine features as most of you are also attracted to normal women for the having the same traits.

Not that user but there have been cases of many mental illnesses that have gone undiagnosed for years ( probably most popular is leonardo davinci and bipolar) so its hard to say. All we really know is that by societies standards theyre not hardwired right

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26498424/
OP here, I like but i know people who are not from registered research institutes can't read this because you have to pay for it but i may post some screencaps from it

As a person who is occasionally into trans (but never irl) I find traps and all that to be super gay. That doesn't even cover like, half of the secondary sex characteristics of women. It's literally just skinny boys with a change of clothes, not even tits.

OP here, haven't read it but i agree with the dude that says that it's punishable now, source
nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/canadian-lawmakers-pass-bill-extending-transgender-protections-n773421

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I agree, it kinda goes through the nature vs nurture perspective where it's very hard to tell just like it's hard to tell whether someone is likely to get a disease. There are more than likely genetic markers that can make a person more susceptible to becoming trans, but there are also societal pressures that influence it as well in my mind.

Question, what do you guys think about transgenderism between races?

For the most part, it seems to just be a matter of passing for the other gender being easier or more difficult.

For instance, black men and women have pronounced differences in their body types, but not so much in their faces. White have fairly significant differences in both face and body, and Asians have, over all, pretty minor differences as far as bone structure, height, etc. goes.

Paper is interesting but the sample size is small so i take it with a grain of salt until more studies come out.

So this is 100% Straight since it has a vagina

Do you think that the normalization of the transgender culture leads to more people acquiring this mental disorder?

OP here, i agree with you. It's usually people that are part of the LGBT communities that want this enforced because there are quite high incidences of violence to them. So it is understandable for them to fear hatred, but such a law that prohibits free speech is not acceptable to me.

Nope. Traditionally masucline features. Gay.

>glitched prices!!!! nons

Well she was born a female they say if he was born a male even if he has feminine features it's gay ???

according to the one user's logic, it has the right genitals so it's actually straight for a male to want to fuck it.

This is straight to him btw
I agree it's bi but they would call our stuff gay

christ, that's gotta be the funniest pornsite name I've ever seen

Imagine your credit card company calling you up to confirm your card wasn't stolen

"Sir, we believe your card may have been stolen, can you confirm a purchase for us?"

"Sure"

"Earlier this week, did you purchase a subscription to 'Bonus Hole Boys'"

I wouldn't consider a trans dude with pussy gay, as it is technically a hairy girl.
i;m bi myself so i have no beef with the trap thing. neve rbeen with a trap as im a bottom with guys, but it's definitely fucking a guy, and thus gay

Buddy I just searched mtf porn to prove your straight porn sorry to disappoint your point buddy

...I'm literally just laughing at a porn site's name. What are you even talking about

If they would search your stuff I would feel feel bad for them since you are here faggot

I would not be opposed to thinking it could. We don't have much information about it yet, but from observing humans for 20+ years, i've realized that when things become less stigmatized, more people are willing to do it. (eg. fashion trends reflect this such as having leggings be worn in place of pants. everyone was up in arms about it at the beginning, but it slowly is becoming a norm now)
Moreso though, i think it's genetic. My Uncle (now aunt) had the disorder and now lives as a female (never knew about her growing up though because my parents disowned her). I believe I also have some sort of the gene as well as i legit hated myself being a boy and used to pray to God to either change me or kill me when i still believed in him.
At this point, I understand my life has larger meaning and feeding into the disorder would only stunt my desires to better the world by spreading science and logic to people and therefore i am willing to be unhappy with my body in order to do such. (not gonna lie though, i look damn good as a chick)

If you are sexually attracted to that person because of the traditionally male features they posses, then yes, you are gay. (If you are male)

That is very gay to me

Wouldn't put it past it considering other things such as sickle celled anemia and bubonic plague resistant genes can differ between race.

This is staight to people saying trap are gay

just do all that and be a girl. why are you lying to yourself to help a world that rejects science and progress?

So traps are gay because they have a penis but ftm are gay because they have eveything a male has but the have a vagina. So any male feature is gay yet your girl has hairy legs in the winter but she's straight...oh wait you are a virgin

definitions here

dat phimosis

I think is crazy how people are talking about being straght or gay but it has everithing to do about being bi smh

Society doesn't accept it. There are many studies that also show that confidence is key when getting into higher up positions and having something like that looming in the back of my mind that i continue to feed by getting surgeries and whatnot would be detrimental to my self esteem. Also there's huge amounts of discrimination against it myself. I would know, I unconsciously do it myself. I'm super glad i have a good brain though, otherwise i'd probaby end up a walking fuck toy for porn stars to ravage. (this is also stuff i used to be very into)

You're on the wrong board for that laddy. Here you go if they don't accept you, call them bigots and you'll be fine.

Well if you talk about they are being born it's gay.
One of the became mtf so became a girl so it's only gay for the penis part. I agree it's bi but 4 chan fags say it's 100% gay yet if you follow what they say mtf is 100% straight. These guys are just a joke

It's gay no matter how you slice it or try to alter it's mechanics unnaturally...

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