What's your most favorite and most hated Star Wars SE change?
My favorite change is the added clone trooper chatter during the Battle of Utapau in ROTS.
The change I hate the most is this stupid fucking rock in ANH.
What's your most favorite and most hated Star Wars SE change?
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Cameron Scott
how did he even fit in there wtf
Adrian Adams
Lucas is a very special man.
Cooper Ward
>favorite
The fixed lightsaber effects in ANH.
>least favorite
Vader screaming "NOOOOOO" when he throws Sheev in RotJ.
Jeremiah Scott
best: greedo shot first
Nathan Reyes
>Favourite
I can't think of one. The fixed lightsabers in ANH I guess.
>least favourite
What else? The fucking musical segment in ROTJ. Or the huge creature that fills up the whole screen for a moment in Mos Eisley for absolutely no reason.
Nicholas Jones
Benjamin Fisher
Least favorite is easily young Anakin appearing at the end instead of old Anakin.
Nathan Stewart
That's funny. You said that greedo shot first was the best when it's the worst! Now that's humor
Brayden Edwards
i don't think anyone in the world actually thinks this apart from george lucas, and he has probably realised by now he was wrong
i think most people think it doesn't matter either way, and nerds who look into it to any degree think it's worse
Zachary Bennett
Luke's scream is the worst.
Justin King
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Robert Morales
In the original release of Star Wars, the death star had written English on a power bar. They changed it to galactic common in Special Edition.
Another particularly good change was that in the original release, in any scene where R2D2 was in the same shot as a window into space, he would appear greyscale. This is because they used bluescreens outside the set windows to put in the stars outside spaceships, and since R2D2 is blue that fucked it up. They color corrected the problem in special edition
Jason Cruz
This and the fixed saber effects are the only good ones.
Isaiah Thomas
that needed to be changed, but I have no idea why they didn't just make it so you couldn't quite see his face.
Evan Bennett
He can't keep getting away with it
Xavier Gutierrez
>Best
Victory Celebration replacing Yub Nub
>Worst
Vader's NOOOOOOO in ROTJ
Henry Perez
That one was so bad even Lucas walked back on it.
Asher Rodriguez
here's an example of black and white R2D2. This happens many times in the movies
Asher Ramirez
English IS Galactic Basic you mong. You mean to say Aurebesh
Carson Evans
I meant written english vs written galactic basic, which is Aurebesh yes. Written English, aka the roman alphabet, doesn't exist in the Star Wars universe, or at least it isn't supposed to.
Brandon Sanchez
protip: R2 is a sith lord
Jason Thomas
I liked it better when Star Wars was just a fucking space movie and not an autistic documentation of a fictional universe with its own languages and everything
Ryder Adams
lol the beginning of that did sound fucking scary but the end of it was laughable. probably looked like a DAEMON or some faggy sandnigger spirit. pretty fucking based obi wan
Cameron Reyes
>least favorite change
Changing "Lepti Nek" to "Jedi Rocks" in ROTJ. The new CG aliens stick out like shit next to the practical puppets.
>favorite change
The extra Wampa scene in ESB is the fucking best.
Easton Harris
>favorite
I liked that they added the scene of Luke and Biggs talking before the Death Star run. Makes his death more meaningful.
>least favorite
Any and all of the CGI
Landon Hall
This
Fuck autists and their wookiepedia shit.
Sebastian Scott
i'm glad they had a link to a page explaining what a pillow is, i was getting confused
Jacob Walker
Favorite: end song in ROTJ, makes it seem much more like a definitive ending. Too bad Force Awakens fucked it up.
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Least favorite: Probably the Palace song in ROTJ.
Benjamin Wood
>Star Wars SE
What's that
Parker Mitchell
Thanks man. Was some time since i saw the unedited versions.
Mason James
Special Edition
Pretty much any copy of the original trilogy you buy these days will be the special edition. It has a lot changes using digital trickery. Some good, some bad.
Cameron Bennett
Oh, so it's original and remastered
Worst: That singing CGI alien in Jabba's Palace
Best: Podracing on Tattooine
Jeremiah Adams
A good idea in theory but still bungled. The hologram's resolution is so much higher than everything else in the movie so it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Benjamin Miller
Who hype for Project 4K77?
Benjamin Parker
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Ian Cook
Lucas Edwards
>This and the fixed saber effects are the only good ones.
I don't recall the saber effects, do you have a comparation of both?
Aiden Harris
This is hilarious, wish they had kept it.
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Charles Bennett
Who the fuck approved this?
JABBAHU ACKBAR!!
Aaron Bennett
some editions of the DVD completely fuck up the color correction which ruins the rotoscoping on the lightsaber, leaving them like white strobe lights.
Jackson Jenkins
genuine autism
like the person who thought this needed to exist is legitimately on the spectrum
Owen Diaz
How does Luke survive that fall? I doubt the force can help with falling several hundred feet onto your ass.
Leo Mitchell
>worst addition
Bobba Fett's fucking ship
Camden Murphy
>that needed to be changed
No, it didn't.
Jordan Cooper
The fan edit looks much better.
Cameron Long
You were probably at most like 7 when that was the case...
Ryan Sullivan
>wanting the emperor to look like a puppet
Levi Taylor
There are so many fan 35mm OT restorations I don't even know which one to get hyped for anymore
Xavier Lopez
This one looks definitive for ANH anyway...
He has a 4K scan of the print now.
Elijah Phillips
>favorite
this shit here >least favorite
NOOOOOO
Jack Wright
watch this clip of him restoring it. it's super cool
Cooper Hall
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Mason Gomez
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Sebastian Edwards
>What's your most favorite
these
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Isaac Taylor
napti lek was fucking underrated as fuck, this jedi rocks music and hayden replacing shaw in rotj were probably the worst changes in the OT
Austin Bennett
>money money
What did JJ mean by that?
Charles Cox
Great job, Lucas. It's much better.
Asher Sanders
This
Dominic Butler
>My favorite change is the added clone trooper chatter during the Battle of Utapau in ROTS.
link?
Oliver Gomez
This little change.
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In the original version the distraught Vader mutters out a concise order. This is a little character moment as Vader has always kept a controlled appearance, even as he is executing his officers for incompetence. But here he has just been rejected in Luke's ultimate rebel moment. "I'd rather die than join you". One can see how troubled he is right through that plastic helmet.
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Here he nonchalantly orders his ship to be ready for him. Unaffected by his son apparently commiting suicide. This little moment has been ruined, and the movie became a tad bit worse.
Julian Parker
>instead anakin's full body
>they bad-photoshop his rapist face into a 50 yo man
Juan Harris
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Brody Scott
>Or the huge creature that fills up the whole screen for a moment in Mos Eisley for absolutely no reason
There is a reason. It was there to hide an edit if I remember right.
Logan Anderson
It looks like there's a big opening at the top right corner. He probably slid in there.
Austin Thomas
is there even an official blu ray of the origional theatrical cut (ie without any of georges autistic editing bullshit)
i know theres some fan edit thing
Ian White
This one bugs me out, in the new shot the emperor looks straight from ROTS but he looks nothing like that in ROTJ.
But I guess the original doesn't look like the ROTJ emperor either...
Robert Butler
This desu
Nicholas Brooks
I watched this
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This project looks really, really promising, but I wouldn't call it definitive. Apart from Mike Verta's professional restoration (which might even end up in stores IIRC) there's another restoration where the guy goes all out and scans everything lossless at 4K full aperture - 4096 x 3112, so after stretching to compensate for the squeezed image the result is closer to 8K. He has scanned entire OT, multiple prints per movie, the only problem is that he doesn't have the time to perform digital cleanup.
Ryder Hughes
No, the highest quality of original cuts released officially is trash non-anamorphic DVD.
Ethan Lewis
thats seriously such a shame, i guess i will have to find a torrent of that fan edit then
Kayden Myers
This triggered me a lot. Apart from changing the line they also added a shot of Vader walking into the shuttle. Like they thought the audience wouldn't understand why Vader is suddenly on star destroyer. How fucking autistic is that?
Benjamin Cox
Fuck Lucas. The original line is so based. Even the music was better.
Evan Smith
For the first movie, you can go either Harmy's Despecialized (Blu-ray with changes reverted) or Star Wars Silver Screen Edition (a fan made 35mm scan). I would go with the second one just because it's 100% original, but it's your preference.
Charles Brown
I thought Verta just gave up on that or came up against legal worries which is why he's helping this project. Haven't heard anything from that guy in ages.
in any case this one is in good hands.
and Harmy still needs to fix his ROTJ edition that crushed blacks. that was bizarre.
David Collins
alright, thanks
Hudson Gonzalez
currently streaming the Star Wars Holiday Special if anyone would like to join me in the chatroom
Austin Nguyen
That's my favorite. Not because it's good but because every time I hear it I can't not laugh. It's like an anti-depressant.
Lincoln Roberts
Meme completely aside.... What's wrong with his face?
Levi Rodriguez
AFAIK Verta will never ever "leak" his restoration, but instead he's trying to set up a meeting with Disney executives so that he can hand it to them. You'd think it should be easy, but apparently those fucking jews don't care about old movies. Apparently there was some important "push" at the end of October, but no one knows what became of it yet.
Personally I think it will get released next year, with the 4K market is getting pumped up Disney will want as many titles on UHD BD as possible.
Robert Campbell
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Landon Cook
It makes more sense to me this way. That was the last moment Anakin Skywalker existed before he became Vader. You could argue that Vader returned to being Anakin right at the very end there, but that takes an extra step of unnecessary justification.
Liam Nelson
>Personally I think it will get released next year, with the 4K market is getting pumped up Disney will want as many titles on UHD BD as possible.
that's what everyone thought when blu-ray hit...
then when Episode 7 was announced and people thought Disney would treat fans to a re-release...
face it. George has burned the original negatives and erased it from the Disney vaults.
;___;
Jaxon Thompson
Anakin is reborn when he decides to save his son and kills the emperor.
Kayden Taylor
How is that fucking gobot supposed to even get in there? These movies are retarded and were never good.
Jacob Davis
>My favorite change is the added clone trooper chatter during the Battle of Utapau in ROTS.
There are special editions for the prequels?
Otherwise:
>favorite change
I don't know, probably something I didn't notice.
>most hated
Every fucking thing that made the movies worst than they were, so a lot of shit.
Christian Hill
>implying greyscale R2D2 was a problem
There is nothing wrong with colors looking fucked up when the lighting is weird. What's weird is everything looking the same in every lighting condition.
Parker Thompson
Yes but this time it's different. Mike Verta has already restored it. All leg work is done, it's complete. All there is left to do is encode, author a disc and it's ready for release. The only man that actively suppressed the originals is no longer in charge, and the guys that are love easy shekels.
>George has burned the original negatives and erased it from the Disney vaults.
He didn't, but even if he did, many 35mm prints still exist and Verta's restoration technique can give very impressive results.
Austin Hall
>they had to fire the creator of Star Wars to release Star Wars
s c u l p t e d c l a y b a k e d i n a n o v e n
Julian Wilson
not to mention R2 literally flies wherever he wants in the prequels but doesn't bother to keep those same parts for the OT
Tyler Diaz
oops meant for
Nathaniel Myers
>most favorite
Probably the cleaned up and added Cloud City effects. They make the place look much better than in the original release.
The extra Biggs stuff is also nice for the character development. Honorable mention also goes to the added "close the blast doors" line in the stormtrooper chase with Han, although no one is actually sure if was added or not, since people remember hearing the line in the original release.
>most hated
Hayden Christiansen being forced into ROTJ. It's jarring and makes no sense. Actually, most of the other changes in ROTJ (NOOOOO), for that matter.
I'm also not a big fan of adding McDiarmid into ESB. The original sequence works fine; to me, putting an older, fatter emperor with bad makeup into the scene looks even more different to ROTJ than the chimp-eyed woman.
David Harris
>best change
Not really any. Probably something subtle that was nice.
>Worst change
Yavin launch scene where the X-wings hover 2-ft from the guy in the tower. The original with the specks of light leaving into certain death was much more moving.
Liam Hernandez
No way that is real. He sounds like fucking Bobcat.
Angel Ross
INTERRACIAL MUSIC NUMBER COMMENCING
Lucas Gutierrez
the emperor originally looked like that? what the fuck
Grayson Martinez
But he does. In the 96 special edition, Lucas changed Luke's line in Empire from "You're lucky you don't taste very good!" to "You're lucky you got out of there."
>Artoo blasted himself out of the swamp monster
Christian Lewis
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First clip. I hate the PT but these guys are still my heroes.
Liam Moore
what the fuck. the original line is much wittier. the revision is just generic and obvious.
why Lucas. why.