I'm new to tider dating and I've been in a long relation until recently...

I'm new to tider dating and I've been in a long relation until recently. We've talked and flirted for a week and today we will meet at a coffe shop.
What expectations should I have for some sex? Do they bang from the first night? Should I wait for her to launch another date? DO they make the first move with "come to my house" or the alfa fags do it?

If you are having to ask, you are already fucked....

>tider

From experience it just depends, some girls are sluts and others are bithches, depends how hot she is

Are you literally a sandnigger?

OP here
I'm basically a beta fagget that just came out of a fucking long relation. I have shit-ass exp in terms of casual-dating.
The bitch i was with fucking destroyed me

Don't use Tinder to date, use OkCupid in the very least

Tinder is good for first dates. Seriously just be casual and friendly and don't try to hard to be cool. Also don't have any expectations for sex or anything in general, just be a dead fish and go with the flow.

In my country it's the other way around. Tinder is full of girls that are both into dating and hookups. Okcupid has almost no population

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I call this "three date rule". In perfect conditions, if you act in a perfect way;.... every bitch will fuck you in first 3 dates. Some go down on 1st, others on 2nd, others on 3rd date. 2nd date happens the least :D

thing is , you gotta blow her mind. She will want you and won't say "no". This rule never let me down. maybe like 2/70+ girls only went down on 4th or 5th date , but usually, if they are lingering, means that you fucked up or they got other dicks in the meniu/on their mind. The longer you wait, as in : fail at being a man .. the higher chances are for you going into friendzone.

Also; this shit works even on virgins; had like 6 or 8 something. Just be smart, dress well, smell well, be funny, witty, confident, chatty, interesting. Groom yourself, look nice.

haven't even spent money on bitches that much if at all; got no car either.

>met her in a summer
>instant clicked
>we moved together since day 1 of relation
>2.6 years of perfection. Into both things, same dreams, best sex ever and plenty of it.
>got engaged with her.almost got her pregnant(the universe saved me with better chances of winning the lotery)
>BPD episode kicks in. "user, i need space"
>breaks-up with me. fucks every guy she puts her hands on.
>2months of depression,drugs, alchohool and suivide attempts.
>blames her situation on me. tells everyone how i ruined her dreams. They all belive her and they start hating me.
>i've told her I want to cut contact with her and never see her again. She starts telling me how her life is shit without me, that it's all my fault, that she has random masive bleeds(mouth/nose) and huge heart problems.
>"not my prob anymore". Gets even angrier at me

I had enough of her "i hate you, don't leave me" type of shit. I'm consumed and i wanna search for a normal girl without schyzo and bi-polar

lucky for me I have every god damn quality you need to get girls easly fall for me..except the fact that I'm fucking short as fuck(1.66-1.67m) at 23y/o
If i had few more fuckig CM it wouldn't be a prob at all

Well', shit.

can't help you mate, or lend some cm's of my 191 height :D

it;s a fucking pain most of the time. If i get to meet them face to face it's most of the time very easy. I do have fucking charm. I even had a beautiful 1.9 girl once..but the first impresion is so hard to deal with when you are short and with no car

also, No.762013035 reporting in again; very few girls will invite over to her place, unless you prolong everything and she is getting pissed so she takes matters in her own hands. In 90%+ cases you will have to make first moves. Actually, in 100% cases. As women like men who can take the lead. Be it in activities, or conversations, and so on.

she is weak, or wants to feel weak, so she can adore your "strong" image . Something that is attractive to her, something she can follow. It is evolutionary hard-wiring.

unless she is a nymph, but those are for keepers, as usually they had quite some dick milage. Just invite her to watch a movie, have a tea, or even better - to drink together, if she drinks. Spend friday/saturday together.

or offer to make her a dinner, they dig guys who can cook well. Also, try to get a kiss, atleast for goodbyes (if cannot find openings during the course of a date) for 1st date if you want to bang ASAP.

in your place start to kiss, to snuggle, eventually one thing will lead to another, to breat touching while she clothed while you kiss passionatelly, then neck, ear kissing and so on, put your hands under her tshirt, feel her belly, work your way under her bra :D

*those cheap easy myphs that fucked 50+ guys and niggers are not for keepers*

also, weird rule...

fatter, fat, ugly and beautiful chicks usually have taken the most dicks.

Be carefull if she is popular on facebook, as she is attention whore.

Go for 7-8's as they usually have ~2-7dicks or so in their 20's, as better or worse girls might have quadruple of that.

You don't want no std.

Girls with tattoos, and those who love clubs, partying, raves, drugs; tend to also have higher notch count.

My recent ex(the one from the above story) was a god damn 10/10 and I agree with what you said. She had a shit-load of partners, attention whore with daddy issues, tattos+clubs. 13 or 14 dicks by the age of 22 and i tought she;s wife materiel..I know. I'm so fucking stupid that i make ppl cry

The girl i will see is a 7-8 and she's not an attention whore/popular on FB. She looks simple but has some huge potential. She doesn't look like she knows how to make-up since she's never covered in it, but since she;s 7-8 without then everything is good

slip drugs into her drink so she doesn't know whats going on next day she things she stayed over and you slept on the couch but in all reality you raped the shit out of her

Nobody cares about you "reporting in".

I can see you've spent a lot of time thinking about this.

That's quite sad.

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it depends on the girl, but generally they want to meet you in a public place in case you're a turbo creeper. once you have coffee with them and talk like a normal human being, you will 4/5 times go back to your or her place to fuck. if she's one of those "i'm on tinder for friends" girls, drop her immediately unless she's VERY hot. if she avoids meeting up in general, just drop her because she's just lonely but doesn't actually want a friend/hookup. that's my anecdotal experience with tinder in 2018

Also, the more dick slut had, the more psychopath she is, as she gets used to switching up males. It becomes a habbit.

They act bitchy "if you dont want to put up with my shit, leave me, i dont care". The more dicks, the better their skill at not connecting, at not being better partner, as they don't want to be faitfull. Bigger chances of breakup.

if girl cares for you, she would never try to leave you, because... you are dear, important to her. Not just another meatbag that gives her money, love and support.

bitches look at us like groceries. If they need new, they go out to the "store " and buy "fresh".


just be sweet to your girl. don't overdo it, don't be too easy, but reward her with sweet small gifts, massages, pussy eating, dinners, head petting and so on. Make her value the relationship.

Elevate it into a friendship , not just urges, and raw sensual desires for kissing. and sex.

make her grow; do activities together, help her deal with problems, but also be honest and show her your weak side, if needed be. She will appreciate that, as she will see you as an open soul, that is open only to her.

become her soul mate.

>search for a normal girl without schyzo and bi-polar
Good luck with that OP you just described most women.

my gf used to be fun to be around, always smiling, laughing, generally a positive person. these days she has been very negative and depressed, hardly talks, never laughs, etc... it's like all the joy in her life has gone out of her. anyways, i brought this up to her saying that i was concerned, hoping that we could somehow go back to actually having fun together... she's like "we have been going out for a while, it can't always just be a carefree happy environment" and basically just blew off my concerns... how fucked am i? should i just get out now?

zero fucks given. I don't care about opinion of a random guy,. Fuck it, even if we were friends, you still wouldn't suck my dick.

But bitches do. So i put in work, i get bitches, and got nothing to complain.

I dont virtue signal for some random nobodies that i will never meet. I just hand out a tip or few for fellow man.

Maybe this will help him. Even if only a little.

but maybe that little help can change his life. The top of the Maslou pyramyd, man.

Create. Give, for others. Improve lives.

Not just selfish desires. A good man constantly improves himself. A smart woman won't leave good man.

OP here
I agree with you. The more partners they have the bigger the chances are for her to leave for someone else at the smallest shit she doesn't like. Bitches nowadays don't accept flaws from their partners while they are full of them.

I was fucking perfect for her as a partner. My problem is that I wasn't into clubs and dumb friends

i don't know the full story, man. Even if i knew, i could try giving my advice, but it doesn't matter it will work or help you 100%. I am not all-seeing sage. I fuck up. That happens. But we try to learn from our mistakes.
maybe you started out as a fun guy; and that i great; but she maybe only see you as one-dimentional. Maybe you overdo the jokes, never try to be serious, caring. Or you ignore her clues; and girls can be real puzzle with their weak, barelly seen "hints". Maybe she wanted you to care for her more, like, ask how she feels, what is wrong, or on her mind.

Don't just bail immediatelly; atleast if you see problems that can be fixed.


how is the financial situation ? How is her mental health?

maybe she is just tired/stressed. And she just blows her steam on you.

...

OP here
Don't mind those guys. Every piece of advice is welcomed(good or bad)

also, while it is good to accept your shortcomings and to listen to advice,

you also must take everything with a grain of salt. To adapt to the situation. Not always you have to agree with everything . And to be a leader, you need to start paving your own way, to go into unknown, uncharted teritories.

Be prepared to try new things. And to fail . But don't be afraid of losing, then you won't ever have anything to be afraid of. This is for the ultimate goal of long-term improvement.

improvise, if needed to be. Trust your logic, or your gut.


Also, if you linger on something, have second guesses, don't have strong opinion on something, drop it. Like, if you for example see girl on hot or not, and need to stop and think few seconds if you like her looks or not , then drop it. Same with most other random shit. Be YES man, and don't hesitate. If you hesitate on things, chances are, you will regret them later.

she's just going through a lot right now, her dad is dying or something (he has some incurable disease that can only be held back by medicine), but the medicine is really expensive and he recently got laid off so he doesn't have health insurance (so he can't pay for it, or so i'm told). she's also unhappy with her job because her bosses don't listen to her and she can't get the job in the division that she wants, so she's hardcore looking for a new job in another city in a completely different field (at which point i would be completely out of the picture i'm assuming, since we have only been together for like 4 months). financial situation is stable for both of us though, we both have good jobs. her mental health is eh, but there's not a whole lot i can do about that other than by being supportive and trying to be a positive influence.

the relationship itself has a whole host of issues, the biggest of which is the fact that i'm not sexually attracted to her for whatever reason so we just can't have an actual sexual relationship.

Jesus Christ dude. Just do what everybody does: show up and go with the flow. She doesn't need to clock your spaghetti as soon as she lays an eye on you ya fag. Stop expecting dates to be a structured event, that's how you end up ridiculing yourself.

Yeah bipolar is pretty rough, as a bipolar-boye I'd say we shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. All we do is fuck shit up

Just stand up and casually unzip your jeans and dip your cock in her coffee

drop the porn, if you watch it. Eat more red meat, work out, cut the alcohol; anything that gives you testosterone. Exotic fruits, and other aphrodysiacs may help.

You can also try the psychological tricks into tricking your brain that you want her, if you pretend. Try to believe things, even if you know they are true. There was an experiment in universities how random students fell in love. By pretending they love eachother, and care for eachother.

Brain is so complex, sometimes it does stupid things.


May i ask you , before dwelling into detail...why do you want her?

Is it because she is pretty, a trophy wife? Something that boosts your ego, something that other guys are jealous of?

Or do you can't just let your things go, like how dog is bitten into his meat, even if he is full?

Or are you afraid of going into new relationships as they are lot of trial and error, tons of work?

Or are you just bound by the long time in your head; that you've spent together?

or is she just a great person, just sucker in bed , so you sacrifice your bed life for great partner in everything else?


why do you need her in your life?


Also; just like how i guessed, there are long list of possible things that are putting her down.

are not true*

fuck my life havent slept in 40 hours. tons of grammatical errors.

i'm just with her because i'm bored, really.. i mean she's a sweet girl and all, but when all is said and done we're just having fun together. we're both 25 so it's getting to that point in life where people start thinking about "am i really going to settle down with this person or are we just dicking around," and for me personally it falls in the latter category. like i said, she used to be fun/sweet/a generally positive influence, but she's so depressed nowadays and she won't even acknowledge it..
as for the sex thing, i have tried most things.. i cut out jerking it for a month and a half and i still couldn't get it up for her. i'm convinced that it's just some mental block with her approach to sex, like she's just unconsciously not into it or something so my body isn't into it either. i have been able to get hard for much uglier girls than her in the past, so that's the only conclusion that i can really come to

> be me
> grow up with 2 sisters and a fem mom
> get told that men are always the instigators and women always have to protect their sexuality
> have sex with other girl as youth, get told later on, she did because she thought i wouldn't like her anymore, if she didn't
> couple years pass
> meet other longterm friend to have sex, later she tells me she felt used
> get gf and have sex, becomes less frequent, with her claiming to want it more but never instigating it
> feel like i'm forcing her
> sex dies, relationship stops
> want to play the field
> it's easy, just annoy/convince/fool women into sleeping with you

I get that women enjoy sex. They seem so condecending about it though, 'you may violate my body, because i know you animal can not contain your primal lust, but being the good natured person that I am, I will sacrifice my body for your enjoyment'.
Oh well, it's probably a numbers game, but so far I mostly met that kind of woman. It kinda turned me off of sex.

then don't waste your time on boring things.
but the hardest part; the letting go, is up to you.

Just don't regret your actions once you gather the energy to do things required.

But breakups like that are nasty, as they put guilt on you, even if the girl doesn't bitch much about it. "we broke up because of...boredom.
just because".

Might take you some time to feel mentally refreshed again for new, meaningfull relationship. Maybe you will get back into the "dicking around", things will be the same. Same routine, the boredom, the unknown, what to do, when to "save" the current relationship with your fuckbuddy, when to seek new one. If you just take a break from women, it can also take many months until you suddenly find yourself reckless; careless, jumping into random shitty relationships with random girls , because your brain doesn't want to judge things, it just wants to act. To get the drug it wants, to feel warmth, chatter, sex.

Just remember your standarts, don't rush things; and don't try to repeat your old mistakes.