Humanity has only one fucking purpose

To stay alive from generation to generation.

And yet 99% of our money goes to Facebook, iPhones, BMW, Tesla, Champagne, Football etc. instead of space exploration.

What is wrong with humanity?

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Energy.

Costs too much damn energy and money to get into space.

And then theres the speed of light limit which you can never really break...

Humanity is heading in that direction. Google is helping our species evolve into a hivemind controlled by an AI. Pic related.

how much have you donated to research in this area this month?

Alcubierre drive needs exotic negative mass-energy matter that probably doesn't exist

Yeesh. Instead of going to space with our shitty rockets, we at least need a war to advance technology. Also, do you think that we should gocus on space rather than focusing on the problems of the world?

>To stay alive from generation to generation.
West in particular already accomplished that with flying numbers. (technology=low infant mortality)

All struggles for life lost, life got too easy, guidelines too solid. Human consciousness needs struggle in order to discern meaning.

Now with meaning lost, you stop having children and sink your earnings into meaningless pursuit of lifeless novelty.

Too much comfort in the west is what killed the west.

What does money have to do with staying alive generation to generation? If we're just looking at meagerly staying alive, as a species, then you need no money at all.

>How dare the vast majority of people have different desires, priorities, and goals than me!

>And then theres the speed of light limit which you can never really break...
What is the pic in my OP?

>how much have you donated to research in this area this month?
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>Alcubierre drive needs exotic negative mass-energy matter that probably doesn't exist

First: yes, it may just not exist. Second: but there is a chance it exists. Third: we may just not need negative energy after all, but use - similar to the EMDrive - the quantum characteristics of space.

ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20110015936.pdf

>he fell for the mexican warp drive meme

>>How dare the vast majority of people have different desires, priorities, and goals than me!

WTF? I said "humanity", not me.

What fucking purpose does humanity have, if we just die off in the next 100 years, killing ourselves with some super-resistant super bug or virus, or just are so bored that we explode nukes and kill us all?

>implying technology can be advanced past nuking each other

>implying humanity is meant to exist

we're an accident. we aren't meant to be here. space holds no salvation for us.

We were well on our way in the 60's and 70's. But then the Jewish infection metastasized and our minds and economies have been fully enslaved for Jewish purposes.

You have to understand that the Jew is not a dreamer. He is not an explorer. He does not have profound spiritual experiences.

Heroism, adventure, romantic love, exploration for explorations sake, these things are exclusively white characteristics. We must break free.

I support the total and complete expulsion of all jews from white society.

DELETE THIS

Lobby your congressperson.

penny4nasa.org/

Deep shown, most humans want to die. I have not yet met one that actually truly wants to live.

>similar to the EMDrive
Ah yes the meme drive with no peer reviewed studies

Why does humanity need a purpose? And, as a followup, who isn't to say that if we do go out to the stars that we won't come across some incredibly aggressive alien or super bug out there?

Babbys first existential crisis? Such a stupid and baseless assumption.

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Idk what it's like across the pond, but personal donations isn't what runs our space agency.

Oh boy are you in for some rude surprise...

One of these trivial uses for our technology could lead to a break through essential to space colonisation.
It may seem like a waste of time and money but these things we do push the boundaries of science and technology.
Any one of them could result in an improvement to your everyday life in space.

>we're an accident. we aren't meant to be here. space holds no salvation for us.
I am pretty sure we are meant to exist. People who think this was all random and there is no plan whatsoever, must be completely fucked in the brain.

why not?

>Costs too much damn energy and money to get into space.
We have power generation needed to do this already, just because it isnt advertised in public doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

>And then theres the speed of light limit which you can never really break
Correct but you can get around this.

>Why does humanity need a purpose?
Diversification. Staying on Earth means sure death of our race. Diversifying by colonizing hundreds or thousands of other worlds, means that humanity at least survives for a few thousand years on some of those colonized worlds.

The ultimate reason to do this is to find the answer to the very question of life itself: Why are we here? The simulation ends, when we find that answer.

>One of these trivial uses for our technology could lead to a break through essential to space colonisation.

Nope, it can't. Facebook won't lead to space colonisation, BMWs neither, iPhones also do not help, nor does Lady Gaga.

>To stay alive from generation to generation.
So far so good. So good, in fact, that we can spend spare change on connectivity *an important variable to our evolution) and entertainment.

Not sure where you get the idea that something is wrong.

You think exploring our local space region via fossil fuels is more important than the connectivity of our species?

Jesus, man.

We're getting there, it just slowed down a lot. SpaceX is perfecting their reusable rockets, Nasa is working on their Mars rocket, we still working out kinks in the Saturn X, didn't Hubble just get a new upgrade?
It'll happen, user, just not when the Sci Fi writers thought.

So you're saying that humanity should basically find another Americas and make another New World?

I would argue that iPhones, through proxy of pocket computers or communication devices, would help in space colonization. In the same vein, all smart phones, be they android, blackberry, Windows phone, etc. help.

>Diversification. Staying on Earth means sure death of our race. Diversifying by colonizing hundreds or thousands of other worlds, means that humanity at least survives for a few thousand years on some of those colonized worlds
What makes you think we don't need natural unification for that to happen first? Connectivity is the catalyst. You're simply skipping stages. You're like a bad futurist who just can't let go of being wrong about his prediction from 20 years ago.

>To stay alive from generation to generation.
Why?Actually it doesnt matter for nothing staying existing.

The problem is that we are running out of easily extractable resources fast. And we are screwing up this planet. And a single superbug or virus can kill us all.

Space doesn't exist. The earth is a plane. Try getting past the firmament. This is why your country is cucked, you've abandoned God

>To stay alive from generation to generation.
Why?

Why is that supposedly our one and only purpose, seriously? Can you justify that at all or did you just pull it out of your ass and start polishing?

>SpaceX is perfecting their reusable rockets
Please fuck off with SpaceX's 1960s tech. They are not the solution, they are the fucking problem.

Sounds like something that can be solved with technology. You don't think so? Why not?

You think if we run out of fossil fuels we just die off? Futurism is not your strong point, sir.

>chemical rockets
Idiot.

I am not saying that connectivity isn't bad. I am saying that 99%+ of our efforts, money and time is spent on things not directly helping us survive. That ain't good.

If you were stranded on a boat on the ocean, would you spend 99% of your time playing computer games and 1% rowing towards the coast, or at least 50% rowing and 50% playing with your iPhone?

Literaly drinking champagne right now after my gf started nagging because I don't want to make her a kid.

>Why not?
I do not believe we can survive say 1000 years or even 500 years on this Earth without killing us all.

I think this assumption is just common sense.

>I don't want to make her a kid.
What the hell is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and degenerate? The whole point of having a gf is to have kids.

Prove that space is real without cgi and paintings

>I am not saying that connectivity isn't bad. I am saying that 99%+ of our efforts, money and time is spent on things not directly helping us survive. That ain't good.
You realize you're trying to dictate evolution? What makes you think you know better than billions of years of instinct?

We are in the age of connectivity. This seems a necessary step to doing what we will then need to do to survive past earth.

Citation: We're going it.

Why is that good enough?

Citation: We've survived based on the instincts that lead us to evolutionary causes for billions of years.

Sorry. I was trying to imitate the usual response given when people ask 'Why bother with space exploration?'

While the examples given probably don't lead to many advances relevant to space today, in the past miniaturisation of electronics has been pivotal making satellites cheap enough to be useful.
You never know which new technology will turn out the be useful outside the field for which it was originally intended.
The next new material for making sports cars could be the standard for future space craft.

>I do not believe we can survive say 1000 years or even 500 years on this Earth without killing us all.
Alright, well you and the scientologists can go preach on the streets about your lunacies then.

Waiting on evidence and citations for such a conclusion.

>What makes you think you know better than billions of years of instinct?
Billions of years of evolution. If we know one thing it is that species who get complacent and do not evolve, but stagnate, die out... die out very fast.

Humanity has lost its drive, its purpose. If you don't see that, you are blind.

That is the technocrats solution to allowing humanity to survive. I counter that we must inhabit other planets as quickly as possible. If survival means living inside a machine then we have changed the fundamentals of being human. We are the sum of our mental and physical experiences.

>Billions of years of evolution. If we know one thing it is that species who get complacent and do not evolve, but stagnate, die out... die out very fast.
No, we don't know that. We know species' die to predator species or species' that out evolve them.

What animal do you have in mind to do that to us?

>inb4 "ourselves"

>Waiting on evidence and citations for such a conclusion.
Of course there is no citation for a prediction like that.

As to evidence, what do you think will happen if we run out of easily mineable rare earths such as Lithium, uranium, platinum, copper, aluminum etc.?

What do you think happens if something like the Spanish flu gets around, but this time a little more fucked up than last time?

What do you think what happens if fanatic religious idiots believe in the end of the world and try to kill us all? ISIS believes the end of the world is near and that the last battle will be fought in pic related.

>What animal do you have in mind to do that to us?
Humans. We are an apex-predator. And as such, we are out there to hunt ourselves.

The Earth is flat

>As to evidence, what do you think will happen if we run out of easily mineable rare earths such as Lithium, uranium, platinum, copper, aluminum etc.?
Probably be inclined to invent a replacement method to the technologies they were necessary for.

When crunch time happens, our desire equates to results. The atom bomb, for instance. Damn thing was invented in a few years.

Other techs seem easy in comparison.

Will just take motivation.

Sooner we run out of traditional resources, the better.

>Humans. We are an apex-predator. And as such, we are out there to hunt ourselves.
Cool.

So you're saying humans survive.

Since the only evolutionary detriment in species to species extinction is ourselves; we thus survive. You're proving yourself wrong.

Life is meant to be no matter the shape and size. Life's main goal is to expand and figure out the best ways to do it.

The Earth is actually flat look it up on Jewtube

Then tell us all why we have seen 30 years or unemployment increases worldwide, 30 years of rising costs for rare Earths and 30 years of rising energy costs?

If we are so great in inventing new tech, why is shit which we can take from the Earth costing that much more?

Or what about fish? Do you know that overfishing will kill off most economically viable fishing areas in the world in the next 15 years?

>The atom bomb, for instance. Damn thing was invented in a few years.
Yet it was completed with the help of the Germans.

By the estimates from the Manhattan project itself it wouldnt have enough stock piled fissile material for the bombs until November, however due to the capture of a German U boat that we had agreed to capture in exchange for better treatment of paperclip scientists we got fissile material and the IR detonators required for the bombs which was invented in Germany.


>There are people that dont even know the history of the Atom bomb
lel

Who the fuck cares about space? It was a good idea in the 60s when we had no idea what could be out there but now that we know it's all a bunch of nothing there's no point going back out there.

>If we are so great in inventing new tech, why is shit which we can take from the Earth costing that much more?
Because for the past 70 years or so now there has been a concerted effort by those in charge to get the upper echelons of world govt, specifically the US govt, to bring themselves to parity with threats not of this planet.

>Then tell us all why we have seen 30 years or unemployment increases worldwide, 30 years of rising costs for rare Earths and 30 years of rising energy costs?
>If we are so great in inventing new tech, why is shit which we can take from the Earth costing that much more?
What do temporary and fluctuating market rates have to do with our billion year evolution and survival chances? You know what salt was worth a thousand years ago in most regions? More than gold. So what? Things change.

>Or what about fish? Do you know that overfishing will kill off most economically viable fishing areas in the world in the next 15 years?
Is that like how we will be underwater in 2010? Many global warming computer models put us there. I'm sorry, these kinds of things are just not real evidence of anything. I'm still waiting for the coming ice age everyone was told about in the 70s.

None of the space development in the 60s and 70s was sustainable.
It was expensive as fuck.

That's the reason it collapsed, not "da joos"

there are no accidents m8, everything is all determined

>There are people that dont even know the history of the Atom bomb
I was referring to "we" as a species, not a my country.

How many children do YOU have?

its not that hard to stay alive and have sex retard

>I was referring to "we" as a species, not a my country.
Well forgive me then, it is just that most people are not even aware that the atom bomb could never have been completed in the timescale it was without the help of Nazi Germany.

The Germans literally had no idea what they were doing in atomic research

Perhaps they shouldn't have kicked out so many of their smartest Jewish physicists

SpaceX is awesome, NASA ain't doing any of that shit you said though.

>Mexican Warp Drive

Honestly, we need to solve our aging problem first. Then we will have enough reason (over population) to go into space and can actually live long enough to travel the stars.

I'm fine with that. That's the next step of Human evolution, we're switching from Automatic to Manuel.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_von_Ardenne
This man had a better way to produce fissile uranium than we did in the US.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Richter
This man has been proved 100% right with his theories in the 70s, all of which was classified immediately and from then on used by LMT and Boeing to produce advanced airframes.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Epsilon
If you look at the transcripts of this conversation of secretly recorded paperclip scientists you will notice that they describe exactly what the US did for its bomb production while also describing methods to make it more efficient.

You may also want to look for FOIA requests about tests witnessed at rügen island during WWII by the Germans.

You are clearly ignorant of history, but it isnt your fault as you were never taught it.

It's because we stopped dreaming. We stopped dreaming because of the Jews and their filthy tricks

Because we currently have all our eggs in one basket. To ensure the survival of the species we need to colonize new planets and star systems.

One top of the risk from asteroids and comets, something like a gamma ray burst could literally kill everything on the planet at any moment with no warning.

To further add, Von Ardenne is also the only non Russian in the history of the USSR to receive a Stalin Award for science due to his help to bring the USSR up to a nuclear power.

dissipation

You unironically see the natural process of aging and dying a problem?

Get the fuck off this board.

Because liberals and niggers exist.

I just want to explore the galaxy ;_;

>Perhaps they shouldn't have kicked out so many of their smartest Jewish physicists

Otto Hahn literally discovered nuclear fission.

Building a nuke wasn't about understanding how to do it, but investing the resources into a massive engineering project to produce enough uranium-235 or plutonium for a nuke.

>Idiots actually want to tread into the possibility of making contact with higher civilizations that would love to colonize our asses

Just another reason we need a backup planet.

>Just another reason we need a backup planet.
Exactly. And if we really find someone else, we better also have fucking photon torpedos and space phasers.

Is the crow a Jew?

If space exploration isn't sustainable, then our welfare programs are an order of magnitude worse and we should suspend them this very instant.

Did you even read what I posted?

Germany was laughably behind the US in nuclear research by every standard of measure

Their "most successful" reactor never worked as its design was based on several false assumptions

To assert that German science had anything to do with helping the Manhattan Project is retarded stormfag revisionist history

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Epsilon
The first atom bomb was already built before any of these guys were captured

Otto Hahn had nothing to do with the Manhattan Project.

It's a nigger getting a free ride.

considering how long we've been looking without finding anything I think the chances of encountering another species right off the bat is pretty low, and even if we do they're probably just Vulcans or some shit, passive onlookers intentionally hiding from us while studying our development

Apollo was cancelled because there wasn't enough public support to continue the massive funding it needed
by definition it was unsustainable

>Germany was laughably behind the US in nuclear research by every standard of measure
That explains why the germans invented a better way to sublimate fissile material that was twice as effective.

>To assert that German science had anything to do with helping the Manhattan Project is retarded stormfag revisionist history
>documented historical facts are the fantasy of history revisionists
I wont even address your stupidity of this point.

>The first atom bomb was already built before any of these guys were captured
I never said it wasnt idiot, I said that if you read the transcript in its totality you will notice that they describe each step of the process the US project did while also describing a better way to produce fissile material that the US didnt even think of.

Jesus fuck you are dense and totally unaware of history.

>Otto Hahn had nothing to do with the Manhattan Project.
Nuclear chemistry isnt part of making an atom bomb now? When did that happen?

The Germans had no successful reactors, no successful criticality experiment, and not even a workable theory on how a bomb would work

nuclear enrichment is literally just chemistry
You just stated that setting up the enrichment infrastructure is the "easy part, it just takes money" and then went on to exclaim how this was Germany's greatest nuclear science achievement

>unaware of history!
Keep shouting this stormfag scum
It's hilarious and pathetic

>Vulcans or some shit, passive onlookers intentionally hiding from us while studying our development
Stalkers?

We better get lots of nukes ready for the occasion!

>The Germans had no successful reactors, no successful criticality experiment, and not even a workable theory on how a bomb would work
Well there was on in Norway and one under Berlin that the USSR gained control of when the city was split between the west and the east.

>You just stated that setting up the enrichment infrastructure is the "easy part, it just takes money" and then went on to exclaim how this was Germany's greatest nuclear science achievement
No I didnt, I pointed out that if you are correct in your assertion that the nation that invented Nuclear Chemistry was so retarded that it couldnt make it work then how did they manage to not only produce fissile material but do so better than we did.

I see you still havent looked into the documented bomb tests on Rugen island much less anything I said.

But do go on telling me that I am retarded even though historical facts back up my point better than they will ever do yours.

I really like your name calling and all of your sources, oh wait.

>tfw the president is already a Stalker
Should've nuked Neo Kobe when we had the chance

Everything! because you guys where outnumbered from the Axis cunts. So you sadly lost, fucking Germany be strong! and we all getting fuck.

there is no space colonization, we will all die with the earth.

it doesn't matter though, by the time that day comes there wont even be any white people left due to low white birth rates while niggers, Indians, and Asians have 10+ kids per household, whites will be race mixed out of existence

your basically hoping for a bunch of future monkey faced mud skinned mullattos to be smart enough to warp through space, just to have more ugly monkey looking mullato "people"