What in the fuck

What in the fuck

Shred on sisters of guitar \m/ HH brother

this is way too much meme for one image

Toki you look like a womans

yeah, awful guitar.
pls stay there >>>/gg/

Kek, have mercy!

So, all these labels nowadays confuses me. Does Transgender mean someone pretending to be the opposite sex, or is it someone that's had a sex change?

I think trans means that they identify as the opposite gender and take hormones to grow breasts and develop slightly more feminine features. Traps on the other hands are just feminine boys who dress up as cute girls but still identify as male.

So just different levels of LARPing

Sorry. You don't become a woman by wearing women's clothing. I hope he gets the mental treatment he needs to shake him from his delusions.

>This is metal as fuck
How so?

>gender and sex are identical
lmao my high school students are better versed in science than you

Basically

What are you guys objecting to about this?

I'm not just gonna call you Sup Forums but I think you've seen so many images of SJWs doing stupid shit you just automatically draw equivalency when you see a transgendered person.

yall can laugh about this all you want but this person beat out an anti-trans legislator

Not just anti-trans. Dude said they don't have rights.

It must be disappointing being trans. You can't ever do anything without everyone point it out and acting as if it's some great accomplishment while your actual work goes unnoticed.

>science

im pro trans rights but

>science

Can this episode of twilight zone end already
I like the show but come on this is getting ridiculous

gender theory is not a science

Are you trans? It doesn't exactly seem like trans people are trying to stay low and out of sight.

>tell kids that sex and gender aren't identical even though no hard science says so and its pure BS from soft sciences trying to legitamize themselves and they believe you because you're at a position of authority in a developmental part of their life
>thinking people who think differently about a non-scientific issue are scientifically ignorant
stop spreading bullshit and then shaming others for challenging you

no Brendon, not you please, everyone but you...

I don't remember objecting to anything

nice trips

I dunno man I just feel that trans people shouldn't be celebrated. You look at the studies they've done and the suicide rates and it's truly fucked. They aren't gay or lez, they're straight up mentally ill. Trans people certainly should not hold any office tbqh. And I'm saying this as a DSA member lol

>>thinking people who think differently about a non-scientific issue are scientifically ignorant
fun fact english is one of the only languages in which sex and gender are different terms

Language was developed before anyone had an understanding of biology or any science

>haha u fools using language wrong
>a-actually language is j-just a construct what u gonna do about that huh

I only said the 2nd one

Underrated as heck

They literally were before activist groups forced them to change the curriculum.
You can have a different sexual identity but your gender cannot change from chromosomes or genetic features.

all you fuckers need stay in Sup Forums

its literally been proven that trans people have a brain chemistry that is way more similar to the the opposite sex you fucking retards

Why do people think that the high suicide rate is an argument against trans rights, to say that they are highly mentally ill?
Since science shows that depression and suicide are in large part due to external conditions, would it not make (more) sense that maybe these people kill themselves because they live in a society that doesn't allow them to be who they want to be (regardless of if there is scientific basis for their identity) and labels them freaks instead?

I probably would anyway

Wow 1% of people have a weird brain thing, gender can't possibly be real!

so not dissimilar to how people with down syndrome have different brain chemistry to us regular folks

>non-scientific issue
lmao

yas, equality baby! next we should have furries in their full on fur suits run for congress. #forward #equality

WRONG
Suicide rate in more 'progressive' countries such as the Netherlands are almost identical to that of the US, unless you want to argue that social conduction in the US is exactly the same as various European nations then you might want to go back to the drawing board.

Brendon a man in a dress isn't metal. That's the opposite of metal.
We had this in the 80's - it was called glam rock, but you wouldn't know anything about that.
My point is Brendon that a man with a mental disorder who thinks he's a woman is about as far from metal as you can get, alright?

gender is real though
but its not the same thing as sex

all you idiots who claim to have the scientific highground because you watch rick and morty and read the wikipedia page of string theory should shut up because if you actually read a scientific publication you'd realise that your understanding of transgenderism and mental health have absolutely no grounding in the actual biological and scientific studies being done there

I don't believe that. A small group of people feel their gender is not the same as their biological sex, why does that change how it works for the rest of us?

There are lots of people that get labelled as freaks by society though, and none of them come close to the suicide rates of trans people. I agree that it almost certainly plays a role, but I think if we just write off the trans suicide rate as solely explainable by the fact that they're social outcasts we'd be oversimplifying things. I think it's a bit naive to celebrate transsexuals as "the next civil rights movement" like a lot of people do when we clearly don't fully understand it yet.

found the tranny enabler

FUCKING HOLY SHIT

WHAT the FUCK

yeah
but no one is claiming that people with down syndrome are making it up for attention

We're not letting them be fucking lawmakers either

Yeah but that proves nothing since we're not talking about overall suicide rates are we? Suicide rates in general are so much more complex than to expect a simple correlation between suicide rates and arbitrary foreign conceptions of progressiveness anyway.
Also, the Netherlands is still hardly accepting of transgender people so there's no reason to expect the issue to be solved anyway

>why does that change how it works for the rest of us?
how the fuck does the gender of people that have nothing to do with you change anything for you?

You're just dumb or shitposting

Why do we need to understand people's brain chemistry in order to not be assholes to them? Also, what's your point, maybe there is another reason for high transgender suicide rates, why is that a reason to hate them rather than to pity their situation and try to help them live a happy life like everyone else? That's what we do with other people prone to suicide...

found the science denying hick

yeah you definitely shouldnt be allowed to be a lawmaker

>science denying

Literally all social differences between men and women are completely cultural and if you change your sex because you prefer dolls to trucks then you probably should kill yourself.

The OP isn't metal because the only thing that's metal is white masculine males.

a huge part of it is caused by dysphoria
the suicide rates decrease rapidly after transition

>45%
>decrease rapidly
topkek

>change your sex because you prefer dolls to trucks
Just stop
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about

It was a simplification of the point, but there being a major difference between men and women is a relatively new phenomenon brought on mostly by marketing.

Not sure where you're getting the idea that I think we should be assholes to trans people. All i'm saying is we should probably look beyond just saying "we need to be more accepting" because it's pretty clearly not the full picture. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be accepting, just that we shouldn't pretend that doing so will fully solve these people's problems.

>Science denying
Ok just so we're clear, you proudly except the well established fact that race is real and lower IQs aren't because of socioeconomics right? Because I accept those facts and I fucking love science! I hope you're not one of those rednecks that also think the earth is flat and climate change is a myth. It's 2017 after all, embrace science :D

Everyone just deciding to say this all of the sudden doesn't mean it's true.
Not to mention that if gender under your "new definition" is fluid and arbitrary, it's totally meaningless in the face of something empirical and scientifically-defined. Congratulations, you tossed out your own argument.
Thinking trannies are mentally ill and need help isn't some insane far-right belief. I'm all for gay equality and that, but the transgender realm and the "gender theory" behind it are absolutely insane.
>Based on subjective feelings and can change at any time; no empirical backing whatsoever, or even conclusive definition
>Real
This isn't an argument. "Just be nice" isn't the solution to massive and profound delusions and unquenchable desire for self-mutilation. They need help, not for people to pretend they're perfectly fine.
Do we tell schizophrenics that they're totally right and go out of our way to encourage their hallucinations?
"How does it affect you, just stop asking questions" is the mark of someone who thinks with kneejerk emotional reactions instead of reason, and trans people kill thsmevles and abuse drugs in staggering numbers because of this.

...so? Doesn't make it any less ridiculous that this guy thinks dressing like a woman and turning your dick inside out is "metal as fuck xD"

Guys, the real question is here obvious.
Are traps gay?

>except
look another low IQ white can't even spell lmfao

>lower IQs aren't because of socioeconomics
>science
pick one

you know one of the discoverers of DNA openly believes IQ is genetic and varies among races right
>inb4 he's a science-denying hick unlike me the humanities student

>humanities student

Wow, another feel good science lover boy Neil Degrase Tyson fan denies modern genetic research proving race is in fact more than just skin color.
Wtf I thought us progressives love science so much in the current year??
w e w l a d

nice job focusing on the tacked-on ad-hom joke and ignoring the actual point of my post

> It has to be solely socioeconomic or genetic
it's both you goobers

>b-but black people's genetic make up is the way it is because of socioeconomics!

There's like a million brutal death metal songs about butchering genitals to be fair

stop pretending like race is scientific you fucking conspiracy theorist

I've started to believe that most transgender people are allowing themselves to be consumed by an elaborate fetish.
More and more people allow their sexual proclivities to define them, straight and gay alike. Their "personality" becomes a forced ultramasculine or flaming gay stereotype, because they have to remind onlookers at every opportunity how much pussy they slay, or much much they like sucking dicks, in order to make up for their utter lack of personality, interests, and values, consequences of the soulless consumerist society that tricked them into pledging themselves to social approval and the pursuit of power.
Others are engineered through pornography, more accessible, widespread, and depraved than ever before. The drug-like effects require constant indulgence in more and more unnatural content, with the common path for young men ending in an association with degradation and forced femininity as sexually pleasurable. You see this in cuckolding, traps, sissy/hypno, BDSM, all highly popular forms of porn these days. Those prone to letting their sexuality define them will conclude that the ultimate fetish is not just to watch a man be overpowered by a woman... but to turn into a woman themself. It's easy to see how this can happen gradually. The dopamine rush a man must get from wearing a dress and makeup out into public must be one of the most intense things he's ever experiences. He's living his ultimate fantasy. But throwing away one's identity so that only a fetish can remain only leads to mental illness and depression as he sinks deeper into a gross caricature of womanhood, deep down knowing that it will never be real.

i recognize that. the thing is nurture supporters completely deny the significance of genetics. or they admit it in theory but completely deny any of its effects in the real world
lel

pretty sure this includes pre transition people too

wait do people actually believe this because this implies everyone is born with a certain baseline IQ and where we go from there is just based on our circumstance and that is stupid

>me the humanities student
lmao im actually a fucking stemlord

Race in the form of hard classifications of "white"/"black"/etc aren't scientific but the correlation between IQ and collections of certain ethnic groups (a broader definition of race) is backed by years of science.

Just because pop """scientists""" like Bill "Weimar" Nye doesn't spoon feed you an ebic science fact :D doesn't make it a conspiracy theory lmao

Kind of MPCesque but good points about porn conditioning. I think people don't realize how harmful it can really be.

good for you, heres your complimentary cookie
once again someone ignoring the actual point of the post

suicide rate usually go up after transition (not that they weren't already high to begin with)

Nah dude that's just junk science and all the researchers and scientists working on genetic research are all KKK Neo Nazis you fucking dumbass inbred hick

>openly stating facts is unacceptable

Good post, this shit is literally a fetish, autogynephilia

Uncle Ted Kaczynski was right GTKRWN

>inb4 this thread gets shoah'd
Too much free thinking going on in here

it's hilarious

most glam metal bands look more feminine than "her"

yeah sorry i just said meme because look at that shit it's like 3 different kinds of clickbait

>Elect someone with host of genuine mental illnesses for no reason other than to advertise how not-bigoted you are to Drumpf
Well done

what u mean mentally ill? u DONT want to cut off ur dick and balls????

(not true by the way)

>tfw male
>tfw been watching old musicals
g-guess i should cut my dick off now

underage redditors like you need to fuck off from this board