What do you think of Rock Against Communism, Sup Forums?
Rock Against Communism
Tyler Johnson
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Alexander Ward
lmao
Isaac Cruz
This thread is *extremely* problematic in many ways. Borders are so like 1800s get with the times grandpa, it's 2017 right now.
Julian Morales
>music that focuses more on the message than how it sounds
can you give me a decent white power punk song thats also good musically
Jaxson Turner
Well, what do you like? It's hard to gauge these questions because answering them depends entirely on the taste of the person asking them.
I can readily go into detail as to what I like, but I can't answer your question until you tell me what tickles your fancy.
Aiden Stewart
I can only think of black metal when it comes to WP in terms of the music being good tbqh
Mason Bell
I'm not a fan of punk but Skrewdriver is pretty good
Juan Hernandez
punk music that's either noisy or sludgy
Chase Cox
Mistreat, Freikorps, Konkwista 88, No Remorse, Mudoven. Angry Aryans, and Vaginal Jesus are classic
Logan Torres
sounds like nazi shit
Luke Gomez
Carter Bell
Well, if you want "white power sludge", then don't hold your breath. It doesn't exist.
I can give you pretty noisy recommendations, though. If you want White Power Electronics, go with anything made by Brethren or any of his projects.
White Pride:
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Mudoven:
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Ethnic Cleansing:
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Isaiah Johnson
not understanding the whole picture leads to nowhere
rock against statism and collectivism is the only rock i would support
Lucas Baker
is there any good nazi shit that isn't punk or metal?
Benjamin Perry
fashwave is pretty good but its all memes
Daniel Clark
ancap detected
Alexander Clark
Death in June
William Garcia
wtf I love lolbertarians again
Aiden Murphy
Like I said, there's great White Power Electronics.
Brethren:
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Organized Resistance:
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Revolutionary Command:
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If you like New Wave, there's Final Sound. Sadly, only one song of there's surfaced online, but anyone who finds their demo is a hero:
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Isaiah Morris
isnt douglas like a nasbol at best and much more of a communist
Robert Edwards
I think Doug P just likes the aesthete and nothing more.
Mason Fisher
Before Rock Against Communism erupted across the Anglosphere, one bold Baden-Württemberg band sought to sing the glories of their Fatherland. Ragnaröck might be the earliest known post-war National Socialist rock band to ever record and release music. Ragnaröck emerged from West Germany's progressive music scene, going right while the vast majority of their fellow countrymen went left.
Ragnaröck was a project of Dieter Lohrmann, son of the NPD's then-President of Markgröningen. The band was featured in one article by die nationalkonservative Zeitschrift, but relatively little is known about their activities. After breaking up, Ragnaröck languished in obscurity until their music was discovered by Frank Rennicke, who then reissued it in various formats. Judging by the massive success the NPD had in recruiting skinheads, it was all too obvious Ragnaröck was playing to the wrong crowd.
The production values sound surprisingly crisp for an obscure and presumably underfunded band. Despite lacking the distinct heaviness of Amon Düül or the ethereal zaniness of Can, they bring an upbeat poppy tone to the music. "Die Mauer Muß Weg!" is a protest song for a united Germany, optimistic the Berlin Wall falling would usher in an age of free German people. The song here is played in two separate fashions; one as a rockin' song with some pretty mean guitars and the other as a proggy organ-driven affair. Both have that identifiable stomping beat that lasts well after the first listen. And what Nationalist German band would be complete without a somber ballad mourning those who died in the Allied bombing of Dresden? Full of brooding rhythms and soft vocals, the song picks up the pace about midway before going back downtempo.
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Here's "Die Mauer muß weg":
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Chase Lopez
I care more about the music than any message the artists might have. Artists are some of the most naive and uninformed people on this planet desu
Caleb Campbell
I hate communism but I hate fascism too. It'd be cool if RAC wasn't just code for Nazi Punk and we had songs talking about how retarded communism is not made by skinhead faggots.
Bentley Cox
Carré.Ladich.Marchal was a project conceived by singer/lyricist Olivier Carré and multi-instrumentalist Jack Marchal, both men active in the French Nationalist movements. With the help of Janus's mastermind Mario Ladich on drums, all went to work at Ladich's studio in Rome and recorded "Science & Violence" in just two days before releasing it independently. Olivier Carré sadly met his end in 1994 in a motorcycle accident.
Sung entirely in French by Carré, "Science & Violence" earns its distinction as being the psychedelic foil to Pink Floyd. Influenced by some of France's notable Prog Rock acts from that era, the material is quite original, combining the psychedelic influences with theatrical lyrics, rockin' grooves and some soaring keyboards in a charming package. The spacey synthesizers, screeching guitars and French narration wouldn't sound out of place on a Pulsar record whereas other sections are more raw with abrasive electric riffs and acoustic flourishes. Some of the music is characterized by soft electric moves and over-the-top singing lines, surrounded by mellow keyboard themes, building a slight psychedelic atmosphere, which will eventually explode into lovely, melodic soloing with a discreet symphonic base. There are also sporadic, harder runs with the guitars in evidence and an electrified atmosphere.
Plans for a sophomore release were never completed, but two tracks recorded for the album made it to the 1997 reissue on CD. Sadly, the Prog Rock which made their music memorable was absconded for some sort of Minimal Wave/Minimal Synth. While competent, neither song is half as catchy as The Final Sound's "Genetics." Still, there are few genuine obscurities in Prog Rock left, so it's nice to have something like this still out there, and the political affiliations gives this band a dangerous edge most of Prog admittedly lacks.
Cooper Brooks
explaining communism to people like you is always excruciating
Ryan Taylor
Casual listeners hastily assume Prog Rock is an apolitical genre (of course, the more informed listener knows better) but Italy's own Progressive scene thought differently. Some of the prominent bands from the more avant-garde wing of their Progressive music scene strongly affiliated themselves with communism, most famously Area and the Stormy Six, but others on the furthest fringes of the genre sang from entirely different hymn sheet. You know, Fascism.
Janus, formerly Janum, were affiliated to the Neo-Fascist MSI party, regularly playing live at their amusingly-named "Hobbit Camps," named after the musician fellowship's shared interest in Tolkien. The band's history is somewhat turbulent. Most of the original copies of their album were destroyed in a fire at the only bookstore bold enough to sell their work. Their original guitarist was even killed in a political riot the year this album was released.
Recorded on a low budget, Al Maestrale sounds a little crummy in terms of production so doesn't come close to matching the Mussolinian bombast of Museo Rosenbach's Nietzschean masterwork Zarathustra. But the rawness of this recording is certainly a nice antidote to the slew of self-consciously 'pretty' bands who had sprung up in the scene. There are notably few symphonic influences, opting instead for a folk-tinged fuzzy hard rock style, not a world away from the early Black Widow. And some of the guitar playing on here is very mean indeed!
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The speed on "Al Maestrale" is off, so I've attached a version at the correct pitch and speed below:
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Ryder Jackson
Not much to explain, the results speak for themselves. Fuck off red. Go jerk off to your outdated 1920s theories.
Hunter Adams
pure ideology
David Reed
You have to understand that most RAC skinhead bands' opposition isn't rooted in economics. Most of them would look at you funny if you tried discussing "dialectic materialism" with them. Sure, you may have some, but they're few, far between and rarely sing about it. RAC bands mainly oppose the humanistic and liberal aspects of socialism. Socialism's rejection of race-based identity and nationalism is the salient point RAC bands fight in all their anti-left rhetoric. Consequently, most bands are explicitly White Nationalist despite the scene spanning the globe with musicians hailing from across the Anglosphere, the Americas and Europe.
Early on, RAC was strictly about British Nationalism. There's more than a fair number of '80s RAC bands that weren't necessarily Nazi and some never were in the course of their careers. As time went on, bands became much more openly Nazi, especially with Skrewdriver's later albums becoming more obvious in their references to the Third Reich and Norse Neopaganism.
Jace Barnes
Combat 84 is really the only RAC band that I can tolerate, because they weren't racists like most bands associated with RAC. They were right wing and conservatives, but not racist.
Xavier Sanchez
soclialism doesnt inherently reject race-based identity, socialists just tend to reject racism and ethnic nationalist are mostly racists
Jonathan Jackson
>it is (current year) accept degeneracy you fucking bigot
Isaiah Hall
>ethnic nationalist are mostly racists
If you ask me, racism is a prerequisite to being an ethnonationalist. It doesn't necessarily mean you tried those outside the tribe with abject hostility, but putting the tribe first and everyone else second is paramount in an ethnostate.
Socialists only support nationalism if it serves the purposes of democracy (ie: dethroning a king or deposing a religious order). Beyond that, socialism strongly stresses internationalism and international cooperation. They may not necessarily support multiculturalism, but the borders must remain fluid in a socialist world.
Jason Perry
*treat those outside the tribe with hostility
Jordan Lee
>rock actually against communism
good
>using the genre as an excuse to be a nazi
bad
Chase Cooper
>Mussolinian bombast
I love love love this album, but I feel hugely disadvantaged not understanding the lyrics. Do they add anything to the narrative? I was of the understanding that this album was based off Also sprach Zarathustra. I believe Mussolini was given the complete works of Nietzsche as a gift from Hitler, but it doesn't mean Nietzschean influence -> Mussolinian necessarily.
Colton Perry
lol rac is shit u fucking faggot punk is left wing
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Zachary Scott
"Canzone di un prigioniero politico" is based on a poem written by Robert Brasillach. For those unaware, he was a writer who openly held Fascist sympathies in Vichy France expressed in the newspaper Je suis partout which he edited. Infamously, he was executed by the state for his role as editor, which included publishing the names and addresses of various Jews and members of La Resistance. He later spent his time promoting collaboration and German victory, and also called for the execution of political opponents in his paper. His execution is controversial because his crimes, rather than militaristic, were intellectual and political, raising serious questions about the role of speech in wartime and the degree which one could be held culpable for the content of one's words.
A rough translation of his poem reads as follows:
The work of the wicked is short
The idols of gold that they raised
One day their sandcastles will collapse
And the darkness will fall on their dreamy shapes!
Out of stupidity it is already bathed in red blood
And the enemy is already believed immortal
He only hopes in the long future of his power!
But your bars can not hide the sky yet!
But your bars can not hide the sky yet!
Blake Morgan
"De Aegypto" is taken from a poem written by Ezra Pound when he moved to Italy.
Here's an English translation:
I even I, am he who knoweth the roads
Through the sky, and the wind thereof is my body.
I have beheld the Lady of Life,
I, even I, who fly with the swallows.
Green and gray is her raiment,
Trailing along the wind.
I, even I, am he who knoweth the roads
Through the sky, and the wind thereof is my body.
Manus animam pinxit,
My pen is in my hand
To write the acceptable word. . . .
My mouth to chant the pure singing!
Who hath the mouth to receive it,
The song of the Lotus of Kumi?
I, even I, am he who knoweth the roads
Through the sky, and the wind thereof is my body.
I am flame that riseth in the sun,
I, even I, who fly with the swallows.
The moon is upon my forehead,
The winds are under my lips.
The moon is a great pearl in the waters of sapphire,
Cool to my fingers the flowing waters.
I, even I, am he who knoweth the roads
Through the sky, and the wind thereof is my body.
Chase Green
"Manifestazione non autorizzata" celebrates the joys of protests the state doesn't approve of.
Rough translation:
The blue lights in the showcase, someone waving a flag
Sirens covered by the joy of struggle and victory!
See where that bus is?
Over will never pass!
And on the streets to live an idea against those who want to win securely
Against those who live in dollars and rubles, the little life of the merchants!
See where that bus is?
Over will never pass!
We will run stronger than its cops, fill the silences of the evenings
We will paint the squares, the walls, and all the schools!
See where that bus is?
Over will never pass!
Jacob Rodriguez
"Kampf" is entirely self-explanatory.
Rough translation:
The world will not always be in the hands of fools
Your gold has the color of slavery and it will not stop us!
Companions, be careful, the fight begins!
Your lying lies that fall on you
Your new ideas are just empty!
Companions, be careful, the fight begins!
Anthony Howard
Do you like Celtic Folk sung in Italian? Terre di Mezzo might be your thing:
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Oliver Martinez
Interesting