I’m thinking about buying a smith and wesson .500 magnum for home defense but it’s about 1200 dollars...

I’m thinking about buying a smith and wesson .500 magnum for home defense but it’s about 1200 dollars. I can afford it but is it worth it?

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My local gun store has one for $900.
Shop around.
And if you have to ask, you'll never get more than one shot off.

Thats a bad choice for home defence, you'd be much better off with a shotgun or a high capacity pistol. A 500 magnum is a good gun to carry if your in woods that have bears or other large dangerous animals. Even then its still over powered.

hella stupid home defense gun
heres why
its an expensive gun
its not easy to use
shooting it inside would cause you to go deaf
has limited rounds
expensive ammo

Hell no you'd be better off with a deagle

If this is a serious question, please go consult a local firearms expert, such as a gunsmith or a training agency...

tl/dr: Revolvers are not good for home defense due to capacity (as compared to a semiautomatic handgun), and a S&W500Mag will be incredibly bad for literally every potential situation that you could be faced with. Stick with a 9mm or 40cal handgun if you wand something light and maneuverable. Shotguns are "eh", especially depending upon range. Spread patterns are not as wide as one may think when the range is 15 feet or less (FBI standard is 21 feet).

This.

My Beretta has 15 rounds of 9mm. TBH I’m a shit shot, but that .500’s recoil will be absolutely terrible to handle. If you’re stuck on the design, get a GP100 .357

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Too small. You need one of these.

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Jesus, "home defense" handguns are stupid. Meaning either get a shotgun or use your carry gun.

I promise you, a nigger will be just as dead from a mag full of 380.

>pic related. All mah 380s.

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500 is too much gun for that. What are you trying to do, shoot through the next four houses? You want something that will reliably stop a person, but anything more than that is just needlessly endangering your neighbors.

A 357 revolver would be a much better choice.

>.500 magnum
That's absurd. No one can handle that kind of load. Buy a can of wasp spray if you want to defend yourself. "I SWEAR, YOUR HONOR, HE HAD A WASP ON HIS NOSE!" I personally like a S&W .357 Mag revolver with .38 Special cartridges. Or a .44 Mag with .44 Special cartridges. You're probably better off with a .22 LR or a .380 in a home environment, you don't want to penetrate a wall or three and kill someone. .22 LR offers zero recoil and the muzzle flash isn't going to blind you. Take this question to /k/ where we're always helpful and friendly.

just get a glock 19 ffs

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Who the fuck is breaking into your house? Yogi and Boo-Boo?

Painful to shoot.

Go with a shotgun instead

Just use a AK-47...ffs

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Who’s yogi and boo boo?
I just want something that stops the threat

Are you 12?

Think you're going to be robbed by an elephant?

No I’m 24

Fuck that I wanna blow my intruders head clean off their body!!

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>fuck off to /k/
>buy any one of the litany of $200-$300 dollar pistols that are widely available
>inb4 I need muh .500 S&W. Extremely difficult to shoot, ammo is expensive as fuck so practicing at a range is going to cost too much, and a 9mm, .40, or .45 is going to leave that cat burglar just as dead

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Do you store a large quantity of picnic baskets in your house by chance?

>home defense

Get a good AR-15, a sling, light, red dot and suppressor. Use 55 gr FMJ.

Boom best home defense weapon possible.

libtard detected

You'll end up not being able to.control the gun & get consecutive shots off, risking your life & others because you wanted to play Dirty Harry. Go watch any self defense shooting. Its almost always quick pop pops under stress.

Hit him anywhere in the chest or head with basically anything above a 22lr. He'll go down.

sure if you have an endless supply of cash maybe. A 12 gauge shotgun or a compact 9mm pistol can be got for less that $300 and will do the job fine

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>380

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>sure if you have an endless supply of cash maybe

Took me a while, but It's worth it. Actually I don't have a light for mine yet... You could probably build a decent one for 3 grand all said and done.

What the fuck that's for hunting or target shooting at best. It's more of a gimmick than anything. Christ, if gun laws had any common sense for handguns things like this would get some scrutiny. I have no experience with hand guns but I would not have any interest in buying this sort of thing. Go look at videos of people with this and most footage of people firing this accidentally shoot off two rounds almost at once. I don't think there is often a problem with shooting off rounds close together in a controlled way but with this thing people are nearly fucking shooting themselves. I've never seen anyone close to considered an expert in firearms or even handguns firing these. Honestly home defense is like one of two situations I could think of actually wanting to use one of these things but that's if I didn't have any better options. If I used one of these for home defense I would load every other cylinder and make it double action only in firing.

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>one of two situations I could think of actually wanting to use one of these
Those situations being
A. Being payed to use it
B. My life depends on it
In that order too because I suppose that's just my priorities.

I bought my first firearm on Friday and happy with my purchase.

>Pretending a 380 round isn't just as deadly in the real world as a 9mm (2mm longer, same diameter).

When are you electing to get shot w one?

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One shot inside and your stupid ass will be too deaf to call it in.

Whoever breaks into your house is going to take the gun as well as all your other stuff.
All you are doing is arming robbers.
If you shoot an unarmed robber you're up for manslaughter.

Get an an pistol with a stabilizing brace, it'll be half the cost and way better just use good hollow point ammo

They have awful recoil and can hurt your hand. If your name isn't Clint Eastwood then on would say no.

Ak*

Cartridge length isn't a good determination point in how well a bullet can perform. You can pack a brass full of black powder like a .38spc the difference isn't just the length of a cartridge when compared to a .357 magnum.

A 380 is dangerous but any handgun is typically a pretty bad option for home defense. That's sort of a tertiary characteristic.

This is a great pistol OP
Sorry to hear that elephants have ruined your neighborhood

>80% more energy isn't significant in a round

>762470557

Dude. 9mm is considered a major compromise for self-defense with pistol calibers. 45 AARP or 357sig are ideal for pistol carry defense...

What makes you think 380 is going to be adequate? I wouldn't carry it unless it was my 2nd backup weapon.

I prefer the 460 s&w magnum in a Magnum research bfr with good 300grn hollowpoints, plus you can shoot 454 and 45 of in it

I feared for my life, officer. That's all you gotta say.

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buy one, load it, put it in your mouth, pull trigger please

My only point was, that I see nu-gun fags all the time stroking their 9mm while scoffing at a 380. It's almost literally the same fucking thing & in a real world defense situation, it absolutely wouldn't matter. I promise you a nigger will be just as dead.

Nice mustang. Got 2

Not here. If someone comes into your house and you fear for your life....bang bang

except they're not.

Never said it wasn't. But if you're gonna carry a 9mm, a 380 would make.little to no difference plus the added benefit of a smaller carry piece.

Loaded with XTP rounds, it passes the FBI penetration test plus expansion. Just saying.

>But if you're gonna carry a 9mm, a 380 would make.little to no difference

I disagree.

>80% more energy
>literally almost literally the same thing

I bet you think a .30-06 is the same thing as a 7.62x39

Explain. Modern 380s ain't the shit round they used to be.

>$1,200 for a pistol

Fucking idiot.

Thoughts on G2 RIP ammo? Got this stuff in a couple mags.

kinda this.
a short barrel shotgun is all you need. scares the shit outta everyone. plus you can only get off 6 rounds. if you cant get the job done in 6 rounds with a shotgun, a 15 round pistol isn't gonna help you. you'll drop it then it will have enough rounds to be used against you.
at least after the shotgun is out of rounds, it makes a good club

Please do this, then report back to us when something happens. Dont listen to anyone saying its too much, they don't know what theyre talking about. One of the best deterents is psychological, any criminal scum breaking into your house seeing that aimed at them will probably surrender without you even having to shoot. Of course, you should anyways cause when else do you get the chance.

Also, over penetration isnt a problem. The ballistic coefficient of rounds like that is high enough, that when they hit soft materials like drywall, they impart all their energy and stop penetrating. Its a simple physics arguement, how do you think wound cavities are created, its called hydrostatic shock, which this is the best at creating.

>Explain.

See >Modern 380s ain't the shit round they used to be.

Kay. Still doesn't negate that modern 9mm ain't the shit round they used to be.

You're a fucking moron.

Then right now, post a real life gel test. 9mm vs 380, both XTP. We'll see if your "mah 80%" claim stacks up.

Totally not work it. Go ask /k/ if you don't believe us.

Meme round.

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Why the fuck would you try to surpress 223/5.56

Get a 9mm or .380. Decent guns can be had for $300, ammo is cheap-ish and widely available. Practice alot...getting something that you can handle under stress and actually hit your target is more important than getting sucked into the "muh 45 is best" caliber wars. Who gives a fuck if you are firing off .500 or .454 casull rds or whatever and are just hitting air (or worse your neighbors) while simultaneously blinding and deafening yourself...

>penetration through gel

>doesn't take into effect clothing, bones, barriers
>doesn't take into effect total energy

Gee it's like you picked one test example to show they are the same. Guess what? There are tests showing 44 magnum rounds going through gel the same distance. Does that also mean 380 is pretty much the same as it?

So it doesn't blow your eardrums out indoors?

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Get something cheap and not manufactured from wartime. Wartime production pumps out shitty weapons

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>there are tests showing 44 magnum going the same distance into the same gel

lol, sure

and of course ballistic gel isn't a perfet representation, you wouldn't want 12" of penetration into an actual person

what it does show conclusively is that the 9mm has significantly more energy

see

500 is a shitty meme gun. omg luz its soooo big lol, I'll look so cool. Seriously, even if it wasn't extemely over priced it would be just about the stupidest gun you could ever use for home defence, its heavy, you'll blow your fucking ears out firing it without ear protection, and you will have to waste time trying to line your shot up again if you need to make follow up shots because the recoil is fucking massive, not to mention firing it will make your hands numb and shaky To top it off, the ammo is very expensive because its a niche single purpose round, so you will spend a fortune just buying ammo to practice with. Buy a shotgun, an ar, or something in 9mm if you seriously want a home defence gun, and actually practice at a range with it until you can actually competently use the gun to protect yourself with. We're talking about potentially saving your life here some day user, don't just buy a stupidly large and impractical handgun just because you want to pretend you're some sort of badass

Get a Thompson Contender with a 410 open choke shotgun barrel. That should be sufficient.

wow .500 S&W for home defense how retarded
get a Desert Eagle

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Way to hand pic the biggest 380 hating faggot on jewtube. He's using the shit round with the little red plugs in them (they're known garbage).

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and im the test you linked shot both 9mm and .380 versions of the same round like the test I linked, yeah?

No, that was your job. Mine was to prove you picked the worst example on purpose from a poser faggot.

mine shot the same ammo in both sizes, you just dont like the outcome of the test

no point op, just get a cheap one just in case, youll probably never use it besides targets

found the fudd

If you want a hand gun for home defense, get full sized double stack in whatever round is comfortable for you to shoot.

9mm is usually the best option. Then get a light for it and train, train, train.

Get the mindset.

>not having bait gun to plant on negro

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And did it go "80%" further?? Tell me.

How small are your hands? Never liked shooting small handguns

How many houses are you planning on shooting through to get to the bad guy?

Overpowered AF. You step out in the dark without ear or eye protection and detonate a flashbang in your hand, and you’re about as disoriented as if you fired that .500

>cant disprove original claim, makes strawman argument

im still waiting to see some evidence that .380 is just as powerful as 9mm. if it were out there you would have posted it

both of you can eat a dick.
357sig for life

Ha OP this is you in the middle of the night, half asleep trying to shoot nugs in the dark. Ha

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Do it OP. i bought my 500 sw and have had nothing but fun with it since i bought it. At home i think i've asked myself if i was talking to myself, in front of the mirror like 100 times. At the range people stop shooting like that scene in robocop when he was at the range for the first time. Even had this asian couple at the range come to my lane and took a bunch of selfies with me and the gun. Only thing i hate is that my dick isnt small enough to fit in the gun.

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that gun will break your arm from wrist to shoulder.

Nothing wrong with a non-magnum gun, stop playing videogames.

A glock is a perfectly acceptable home protection tool.

>reddit

Didn't say it was just as powerful, but just as deadly. Of course a 9mm will go a couple more inches in gel. You want a cookie for that?

That's what i thought until i tried it at the range. the recoil is nowhere near what i thought it would be. Even one handed.

>just as deadly

yeah ok

way excessive dude. a real bitch to control and when you miss you're gonna put a round through three walls and into the neighbor kid's skull

The issue is a single round of any handgun ammunition usually doesnt cause the intruder to drop for 10 seconds or more. Most people aim center mass, and 10 seconds could be enough for the perp to make it down the hallway and knife you