May we discuss seriously? >Inb4 moralfag

May we discuss seriously? >Inb4 moralfag.


I would like to ask those of you which identity with pedophilia or become aroused by pre-pubecent children a question. How can you not be moved or dissuaded by what pain these images or filmed acts cause in the present and for the remainder of the victims lives? I understand a that a miss-wired electronic doesn't operate as intended, but there has to be those of you that know morality but ignore it. I love sexy babes, but am a father and am sickened by the cancer of my Sup Forums.

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Take a step back, because pedophilia is the deep end.

I think at the root of your question is the role of sexuality in our society.

Have you seen the Brady kissing video? youtube.com/watch?v=48gffeVlR_w
How does that make you feel? Because it made a lot of people uncomfortable. Some call Brady a pedo.

Nature tells us we're ready to mate at puberty. That's a fact. Are we comfortable with that? There are many pragmatic reasons against pedophilia and I am not a biological essentialist. However we can't have this discussion ignoring human biology.

Nice try FBI

You call a pedo anyone who wants somone under 18. But adolescence is a 20th century invention. Once they can bleed and develop breasts, they are a woman as far as nature is concerned. Yeah, kill people who fuck actual kids, but give a break to the ones wanting to diddle a willing 13 year old

I am not familiar but will evaluate.
Not affiliated with any law or Justice Dept. Factory worker actually. I just can't wrap my mind around it and want some decent oppinins. Also been binging svu and the feels...

Svu? The show where the law and order takes the constitution and wipes it ass with it?

While I'm in general agreement with the status quo, I have no educated opinions on the subsets of this disease/desire.

Pre puberty and post puberty make a huge difference, but the law is blind, deaf and dumb

> (You)
>Svu? The show where the law and order takes the constitution and wipes it ass with it?

Yes, the same one. I can agree they don't follow the only true law (contitional law) it is damn good drama

* Consitutional law
*It is a damn good drama though

I can entertain that division. All crimes should have levels of severity instead of cut and dry. Most do.

It boils down to sexuality.
It’s just a fetish. That’s all there is to it. There’s guys that get off to inflation shit, furry shit, scat, etc. And then there’s guys that get off to cp.

I’m not one of them. I watched one of my close friends as a kid get used by her older peers as basically a sexual object when she was clearly underage. And, I’ll admit, I was entirely innocent; at one point I partook in it when another guy was using her. I’m a man with a wife who just received the bad news today that my unborn daughter didn’t make it. If there was anything I could do to prepare a better world if I were to have the opportunity to have a sweet little girl again, it would be to set up a life for her where she’ll be sheltered from horrors like that. It doesn’t rest well with me. Men who abuse girls like that deserve to die. Why waste millions of dollars re-educating them or even trying to normalise them and appropriate them when you can just pay 6¢ for a small copper .22 round to end each and every waste of human genes permanently?
In the words of one of my teachers who stated the quote when I was far too young to understand it, “Monsters are real. And they’re out there. And they really do target children. Don’t fall victim to one.”

Anyways, I know that’s just a disorganised barely relevant hodgepodge of thoughts. Sorry for wasting a reply count. Pedophilia and forcing transgenderism on children are the two topics I am most passionate about, which is why I kind of just dropped in without anything useful to say. I’ll be lurking around in this thread.

>I was entirely innocent
My bad, got autocorrected. Should’ve said “I WASN’T entirely innocent.”

from a universal perspective, there is no morality only the natural laws of this universe and that leaves a lot of fucking possibilities

from a human perspective, the ideal morality is to do your best to prevent and lessen pain in this world.

it's hard to have a healthy, pain-free relationship with children. possible? maybe, but probably as common as winning the lottery.

So when you're a pedophile, you can either tell someone or keep it a secret, and you can either act on your urges or not.

If you keep it a secret, and never act on your urges the only pain you inflict is perhaps by increasing the demand for content that exploits children.

If you tell someone, you're definitely causing pain for yourself and everyone you know, and you might go to jail.

If you act on your urges, you can either force yourself onto a child or try to groom them. Either way, like I said above, there's a virtually guaranteed chance you'll hurt at least them, and probably you, your family and the child's family.

So what's the path with the least amount of pain? silently burn with your deformity.

Until society changes, that's the equation for every pedophile who considers their actions. Of course, there are some that don't.

I will admit that my formed opinions are very similar to yours. I was raised with the mindset that those who are inherintly evil will remain so regardless of intervention. Also I think this multi-gender debate is harmful to the core values of our society and to the future of our children. I just wanted a decent debate to inform myself and to gain a better grasp.

What about "grooming"? If you have kids grow up in some kind of sex cult, where everyone says they're happy, but you have uncle steve twiddling a 12yo, does he deserve a bullet?

The law does that already, actually

These are great points for discussion. A side note though. If I remember correctly Greek/Roman society was more open to that type of feeling/relations. So did we, in your opinion regress in our understanding of sexuality as a whole, or did we define norms based on commonality of opinion?

you can't really compare modern society to anything else because nothing exists in a vacuum, the greco-romans had entirely different foundations to their society, and there was a distinction to be made between the literate elite and the rest of the population that gets relegated to be forgotten to the history books.

We definitely did this to ourselves though, through mass media, exploitation of youth for monetary gains (Shirley Temple wasn't the first). Humans are good at staring at the one thing they don't want to be and then in the process of trying to be anything but that, they become it.

- good points

Sexuality fetish, mating drives and other factors. Youth oriented culture. I agree with the absolute divide between pre and post pubescent. But also "good" camper vs user and abuser. Even if not illegal, and a young person has a positive educational and supportive older person, there is still social stigma and increased stresses and messed up perspectives. Objectification, devaluation and manipulation - all the modern sexual abuses should apply in judging. Even if biologically able - younger teens still make bad choices for bad reasons. However I saw a high school friend have about 2 years of very covert relationship with an older teacher that seemed to do well for him. They shared interests and she helped him get launched and into college. So I view all things with a more complex lens than many.

Very true. I can agree that we (humans) have very limited foresight and allow societal norms great power when influencing our decisions. Shirly temple is a great point. They did what was allowed for monetary gain and now look back on it as a great failure to protect children and also as an influence or "nod" for others to do the same.

All of the above do, yes. I’d even be willing to argue that those that just enjoy pornography of the content deserve a bullet.

>>innocent
>partook

Which was it? You deserve that.22 you mentioned? Hypocrite.

Op. Here. Going to bed but this was mildly informational. Maybe thread will continue. Also if you are a sick fuck, seek help if you can't control it, or don't act on it if you are in control. Kids everywhere will benefit.