>huurrdurr we don't need roads we'll just use jetpacks lmao
>ahahaha yeah we'll have child prostitution in a libertarian society but that's just a negative side effect of the free market (sweats profusely)
>it's totally not why I'm a part of this retarded ideology
Seriously why does anybody take libertarians seriously?
Oh wait they don't.
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if child prostitution is that easy, getting away with murder must be a breeze.
Libertarians are fucknoids
Thanks mook, I'm now a #magaman
did anyone ever get footage of the libertarians booing the guy that said it should be illegal to sell drugs to children?
not an argument
It would in a libertarian society you could just bribe private police forces and go spree shooting for fun.
bitch actually looks like dobby
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>muh roads
this guy definitely browses Sup Forums. Also a great example of why spewing memes outside of the internet is a bad idea
you can do this for every political side
no one does, thats why we dont live in a liberatarian dominated society.
they want to do away with the fucking FDA. wtf.
Who is paying these anti libertarian shills?
Libertarianism is a passive ideology (muh NAP) and thus it will never really be a threat to aggressive ones like socialism or right wing authoritarianism.
It's just a fun ideology to fantasise about but it doesn't warrant this massive shilling or hate that it's getting recently.
At least come up with proper arguments if you want to argue against libertarianism, but these constant strawmen are just dumb desu m8
>no one does
Mainly thanks to your libertarian party, a total joke party full of covert leftists.
the fda is a net negative you monkey
we still have widespread quackery like homeopathy and shit, modern drug industry is one huge cartel, and the fda approves drugs with just a single study showing result. Got a bullshit drug? run studies until you have a result and the fda will ignore all your null results
>da gubamint makes da roads and everything else ever
I hear their next plan is to make infinite fish and wine for everyone from thin air.
>It's just a fun ideology to fantasise about but it doesn't warrant this massive shilling or hate that it's getting recently.
Because it is a cancerous tumor eating away at the west just like communism; they are mirror images of each other and just as harmful to civilization.
Libertarianism (and its more malevolent form, anarchism) is far more subversive, however, in that it can hide behind feel-good words like "freedom"(tm), "voluntary"(tm), "natural rights"(tm), and so on and so forth.
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Are you saying freedom, rights and voluntary actions are bad?
Are you one of those guys who rambles about degeneracy?
You assume that all men are equal; that all men are equally good or equally bad. The only certainty when it comes to man is that the plebes are mediocre in their entirety, and that they ought not have authority.
It is easy to identify and depose a bad ruler, and even easier still to identify and uplift a good one; it is impossible to make the people themselves worthy of their own governance.
>identify and depose a bad ruler,
and you are what 12? or do you consider stalin,castro and kims good rulers.
a+ troll m8
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Freedom can be good, it is not necessarily so.
Voluntary actions are good, but are not the only good.
Rights can be good, depending on what they are, but they are in no way, shape, or form "natural".
Did I not just shit on communism in my first post? Of course those slimeball shits are horrible rulers.
>we will abolish the state and borders but immigration is not a problem
There is no to little authority in libertarianism. That's the entire fucking point of it.
Oh and of course you have the infinite wisdom to know what's good or not?
>Le libertarianism is anarchy meme
>There is no to little authority in libertarianism. That's the entire fucking point of it.
And that is why it is doomed to fail; without authority the good (and bad) lack the power to achieve great things, and the mediocre are left alone to pursue their own goals. It is disgusting.
>Oh and of course you have the infinite wisdom to know what's good or not?
You assume there is such a thing as absolute good and absolute evil. My good and my evil are surely very difference from your good and your evil. Whether or not you agree with me depends entirely upon how well I can convince you.
Libertarianism is to anarchism as socialism is to communism; a slightly less malignant form of the same cancer.
OP and most of the people in this thread don't understand libertarianism at all. I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean anarchy.
Why would child prostitution be legal? A child isn't grown enough to make such decisions whether the society is libertarian or not. Normal prostitution would be victimless and totally legal.
Also, most libertarians don't advocate for abolishing state police.
Am I missing something here? Did I just get trolled? Or are you people willfully ignorant?
>>huurrdurr we don't need roads we'll just use jetpacks lmao
Roads are one of the few things most small Government people are OK with the Gov handling.
Also if roads were needed they would get built and Government intervention probably wouldn't be necessary.
Supply and demand. Making roads isn't exactly rocket science.
Millions of people hire a few guys and setup teams to build houses or renovate kitchens.
That to making roads isn't a big step.
>Child prostitution
What?
Never heard that before and I doubt it is a common opinion.
why is it socialists have to make every argument by analogy instead of just talking about whats going on
sorta makes u think
And they ruled for over half a century, so no it's not so easy to depose a bad ruler.
Le i meant ancaps meme
>roads meme
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What goals can the left pursue in a libertarian society with no welfare state or regulations?
Let me guess, something about rap music and degeneracy?
i want bernie to win just to see the fucking bank branch in the post office shitshow be attempted
>And they ruled for over half a century, so no it's not so easy to depose a bad ruler.
That says more about koreans and latinos being shit, than it does about a ruler's power being tenuous if unsupported.
>culture, tradition, and morality is unimportant to a nation's prosperity
As expected of an autistic lolbershit.
>achieve great things,
What great things have been achieved by authority?
im with you 100% so far but im gonna have to say the pyramids seem pretty dope
You can preserve your culture and tradition without pointing guns at people. In a libertarian society you can live with whoever you want, wherever you want. Buy a plot of land and form a redneck ultra christian commune of some sort, I'm assuming that's what you'd want.
>morality
let me guess, gay couples gross you out, so no one should be allowed to be gay?
Your type has become laughably predictable.
I just want a small Government that isn't responsible for much because I feel that big Governments always mismanage things badly and almost always become oppressive.
In order for real freedom you need small Government and small religion.
Also perhaps an emphasis on decentralization when possible though I am less sure exactly how I would want to handle that.
Stalin ruled half of europe you idiot. Are you just completely fucking ignorant of history?
Are you underage or is English not your first language?
>culture, tradition, and morality
Why do you assume an ideology built around personal freedom would be harmful to these things?
Do you get your culture, traditions and morality dictated by the state?
Would you be an empty shell if your government didn't tell you to wear orange or would you go on killing sprees if your government wouldn't tell you that killing sprees are racist?
Or could it be that the culture, tradition and morality you cherish dates back to a time where the US was a pretty libertarian nation? Could it be that these values you claim to care about are actually being subverted by... current authority?
'One day I will own this boot!'
No, you won't. Better to turn the boot into a flip flop instead.
Are you a faggot or did you just sit on a dildo by accident?
Underage it is then. That's what I was suspecting. Probably 12-16 years old if I had to bet money.
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Good point.
But bigger structures have been built by the free market.
And the pyramids have been paid with the lives of slaves.
So I guess authority can achieve great things, but is it really worth the risk? Because you might just be the next slave.
Gay it is then. That's what I was suspecting. Probably jerking off to furry dragon porn as we speak.
I'm surprised that there are German libertarians. As you can see on Sup Forums, most of the newfag milennials on here have discarded the movement because they don't actually understand it at all and they just want a cool fascist govt with snazzy uniforms that hates the black kids that bullied them in school.
Oh, look, it's another libertarianism == an cap
Go back to where you came from.
The idea of small government in germany is probably growing as their government kicks people out of their apartments to house refugees.
People go libertarian because they fucking hate all the nonsense laws that ban everything fun. Charlie Chaplin called himself an anarchist for the same reason.
It's that simple.
That coupled with the fact that Austrian economics is the only system that generates wealth and lifts people out of poverty.
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There are a few, but nothing big or politically relevant. A lot of german libertarians, like myself, came to the ideology because of gun rights. I first learned about it on /k/ and it's one of the easier issues to learn about libertarian ideology. But once I understood the whole shebang about gun rights and how useless and oppressive gun laws are, I quickly realized that the rest of government is equally fucked up. Libertarianism was the only logical consequence.
Not many people know about libertarianism tho, and almost nobody is able to understand it without a lot of explaining. It's kind of like these threads here on Sup Forums.
You'd think more people would be open to it because we have such high taxes in germany (up to 70% of income can go back to the state one way or the other), but the indoctrination has been quite successful and people don't believe that there could be roads, healthcare or other services without a big government and massive taxation. It's sad.
I guess we need more time tho, especially the EU and migrant bullshit are waking some people up.
On the other hand, many german libertarians don't have a single clue about the gun topic and are strictly against guns, because that's what they have been taught. These are mostly dude weed people, and they eventually understand to extend the ideology of libertarianism to all issues, but they have a really hard time adopting the pro gun stance because it's just ingrained so deeply.
Basically, libertarianism is still in its baby shoes here, and gun rights are not even in the womb.
>it is impossible to make the people themselves worthy of their own governance.
that's an argument against democracy, right?
i dont see how anybody who pays a utility bill can argue for privatization. Comcast and GE are fucking jokes.
the solution to monopolies behaving like dicks isn't to have another monopoly - the government - tell the first monopoly what to do. Its market competition.