ITT - Sup Forumstards give advice on women and decide what is and isn't creepy

ITT - Sup Forumstards give advice on women and decide what is and isn't creepy.

>be me
>be 39 and not good with women
>be at a public food court yesterday and start talking to a girl eating next to me
>she is 22 and seems interested and starts introducing me to her friends
>her friends drag her off and I lose her in the crowd before we can exchange info
>don't have her last name, but her job requires registration with the state
>I get what I think is her last name, crosschecked with other details about her, and find a profile on LinkedIn

Wat do?

Should I try to contact her on there or just forget it? I don't have an account, I have zero social media exposure. So, setting up an account to do this is already a violation of my principles.

Is it too stalkerish if I drop her a message?

Also, weird tit thread?

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Let it go, you fucking psycho.

This.
You're a 39 year old man, dude.
What the fuck.
Find another 22 year old in the mall.

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Post weird tits!

>Find another 22 year old in the mall.
Easier said than done.

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Malls are literally crawling with 22 year olds.

Use Tinder like a normal grown adult.

I don't go to malls. I don't have the skills to pick them up. This was a fluke occurrence. I'm too old, in any case. Even this one asked my age early on, and I made her guess, and she started at 31 or 32. Maybe I should've lied.

No social media. Also, wouldn't that prevent me from accessing girls that much younger than me? And, it requires Facebook, the worst social media of all, right? Fuck that noise.

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Does that Tinder shit work? Never used it. Seems embarrassing to be seen on there.

Any tips?

Do it faggot! You will regret it if you don't.

Romantic?

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Yep. U gotta pay though, so if youre trolling for girls in the mall, im assuming youre a total loser and cant afford.

>Is it too stalkerish
Yes.

Pay for Tinder?

Is it just a fuckfest? Are the girls low quality skanks? If not, why are they on there?

let it go my man. go get an asian massage

Shit.

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To fuck. Isnt that what you want?

I mean, if the girls are of decent quality, why do they need to go on Tinder in the first place? Something must be wrong with them, right?

interracial thread... GO!

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youre 39 and considering making a linkedin to stalk to some 22 year old that gave you her attention for 5 minutes. are you in any position to be judging anyone wtf

OP here. You're not talking to me.

What's the deal with the Facebook/Tinder connection? I'd have to have an account there? And what about lying about my age? And would they see I don't have any friends on there?

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30 going on 31 and still technically a virgin (not completely inexperienced, just never gone all the way). Don't want to resort to random hookups and tinder shit, I want a long term relationship, I'm looking for a partner not a pussy, but I'm also working 50-60 hours a week on a grad degree so I don't really have time to go out and meet people... how the fuck do I find a balance? How do I meet someone and make a relationship work under these conditions?

You are a betafag. Give up. Relationships are easier than getting laid. You just lack a sex drive.

Kill yourself or start blowing dudes.

MOAR huge nipples!

>Tinder
Enjoy your STDs

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spoken like someone who doesnt get laid

Spoken like someone whose dick is rotting off

Tinder no longer requires a facebook account.
Just try it out man.
I am fat as fuck and I have got girls on tinder before.

Dude, I have been with around 50 women, almost none of them one night stands. I used to lack confidence, but I was genuinely just a nice dude that had humor and wasn't totally ugly. Literally all it takes. Be witty, be genuine, take care of how you look.

Let this one go. There are others. Fuckin' creeeeeeep

one tiny little thing that might be a wart at the base of my shaft and one i had frozen off my inner thigh a couple years ago. picked up from an asian massage parlor. its not so bad

Just don't fuck them right away. Maybe date for a bit and get STD checked with her.

You know a vaccine for HPV exists right?

What quality of girls?

> I have been with around 50 women, almost none of them one night stands
Over what period of time?

>genuinely just a nice dude that had humor and wasn't totally ugly. Literally all it takes. Be witty, be genuine, take care of how you look.
That assumes a lot.

>Just don't fuck them right away. Maybe date for a bit and get STD checked with her.
I don't think you understand the point of Tinder.

OP what was the conversation about? Did she seem interested? I would say don't pursue this. Imagine if she asked you how u get her real name ?!?

when i got it, they were still only vaccinating in the 12 year old range. can't get a vaccine after you have contracted a disease, dipshit

Hahaha

Max creeper.

Nigga if you're gonna contact her you're gonna wanna go full creep and get a job at her company or accidentally cross her path somewhere. DO NOT MESSAGE HER. Shell flip

ah sorry didn't know how old you were. I got my HPV vaccines when i was like 13. So like 8 years ago.
But ye that can cause cancer. Take care of yourself man.

>over what period of time

Probably 30 from 16-22
20ish from 23 to my current age of 26.
The last 20 was mainly because I joined the Army and that typical military look will get a lot of tail.

And sure, it assumes a lot, but whether you believe my numbers or not, I know what worked for me. Women didn't choose me first until I was able to be funny AND confident enough to make the move. Not like I am getting 10s all the time or anything, but I AM getting laid.

Just personal history and career. It was almost like a mini-date. The girls on the other side of me, who had nothing to do with her, seemed surprised when I let her get away. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, though.

I figured I'd tell her that I just looked her up on the public licensing list for her career. Everyone with that job is registered with the state. She's actually licensed in multiple states, which is partly how I confirmed the last name, along with age, graduation date, and home town.

It could for sure be awkward. But, it did only take a minute or two to look up, so it's not like it took a ton of effort.

I wouldn't mention that I went through her college degree program's website first, looking for clues, before I remembered the license angle.

Yeah, I don't want to go full creep. In fact, she works really far away from here, so this would ideally be a casual/once-in-a-while thing for when she's around town here.

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This x100

they had the vaccine available before i contracted it. i thought about asking for it, even though it was only intended for kids. i was maybe 30 when it became available

not much i can do now

>Probably 30 from 16-22
Sounds very high to me. And, if you started at 16, there wasn't a time when you weren't getting action, so you didn't learn shit, you just always knew it.

>I joined the Army and that typical military look will get a lot of tail
Soldiers bang heifers. That explains a lot.

>Women didn't choose me first until I was able to be funny AND confident enough to make the move.
That's not a choice. You either are or aren't.

>Not like I am getting 10s all the time or anything, but I AM getting laid.
Yeah, I realize now, you've never had a hot girl. Quality matters, Sup Forumsro.

Don't do it.If she was that interested she would have exchanged phone numbers or something.If you do this you will creep her out and ruin the chances if you ever meet her again.

That's my concern, of course. The chances of ever meeting again are effectively 0, though.

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then just let it go. trust me, if a guy did that to me i'd be creeped out and think he was desperate, just keep your pride and move on

I don't really know what angle you're getting at. I always knew how to get laid? I was born confident? Nah, not really.

Haven't banged a large woman yet. Worst one I woke up to was taller than me, and I am 6ft on the dot. Sometimes the quality wasn't great, but most times we have a great time and neither of us feels bad about it.

I'm not trying to call you beta or anything, dude, don't even know if you're OP or not. Just trying to give some support. Either way, if you ARE OP, there is no way you can contact her and it not be really fucking weird. Just chill out and go for the next one.

Yeah, that was my initial thought. Then some other people gave me the advice to do it and fucked my head up.

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do not pursue, jesus christ

Not OP.

If you started getting laid at 16, you never had to learn. What's not clear about that? You've got guys in this thread who are in their 20s and 30s and don't know how to get laid.

Fat, ugly... it's all low quality shit. Soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines are all notorious for sticking it in unappealing gash.

You've racked up numbers because you have low standards.

It's a strategy... just not mine.

ofc they told you to do it there are some creepy motherfuckers around

I got a question.

>Meet girl on college camp, instant crush
>Talk to her heaps, getting along well
>Second night of camp we're both chilling in my tent and I move in and we make out
>In the weeks that follow I catch up for coffee/lunches at least once a week
>Eventually tell her I like her and she says the dreaded "let's just be friends"
>Still hang out heaps
>Fast forward to this year
>Go on another camp with her
>She's all touchy feely with me, comes over and sits on my lap and gives me a massage
>Whispering in my ear, openly flirting etc.
>Says she's tired, same with me
>Hug her goodnight and walk away, she hesitates as if she's gonna say something but I just keep walking
>I don't make a move because she friendzoned me a year ago, but it almost seemed like she was wanting me to make a move


Am I reading too far into this shit or is she playing games with me? I'm 100% not going to initiate anything, if she wants anything then she's gonna have to initiate it because I don't wanna get friendzoned twice..

You know, if I had slipped her a business card, I wouldn't really care if she never contacted me. I mean, sure, it would be nice. But, what's killing me is that I just missed the opportunity. These kinds of events are few and far between for me (years apart).

I didn't manage to get a creepshot of her or anything. So, I may be misremembering her attractiveness. I know, in the moment, she wouldn't have been my first choice among the girls that were around, she just happened to be responsive.

One is an old college roommate. I've only seen him 3 times in 20 years and we weren't friends while we were roommates. He's married with kids. He's having a bit of a midlife crisis and came to visit me recently. With his help, I picked up a random broad on the street, took her home, and fucked her that night. So, due to that, his advice weighs kinda heavily in my mind right now.

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>doesn't wanna get friendzoned twice
Get over it and ask her then boiyo. You're an adult, so act like one

I'm pretty notorious for picking up women that are way out of my league. They aren't these fat ugly people you assume they are, but I don't post pictures of people I know here, so I really can't and don't care enough to prove that statement.

But you're absolutely right on one part. If you can't thank someone serving for much, at least thank most of them for taking the gross women out of the equation.

And I see your point on not knowing how to get laid. I guess it does seem super easy when you have experience already. It would probably be harder the more time you go without it.

This time don't confess, don't tell her you like her or anything, let her be the one who confesses first if she will.But do flirt with her like you know it's not gonna be something serious and don't treat it like anything serious.

Well she knows I like her, or at least liked her because I told her that last year. Honestly, if she wants to advance things she should be the one to do it. I already made my position clear.

OP here (take from that what you will about my credibility).

You got friendzoned because you weren't aggressive enough. You made out with her and... that's it? You didn't push for more?

She may have wanted you to make a move. She might have wanted some dick. She also may have just wanted you to validate her with your attention. Not necessarily that she wanted to reject you, but there's a good chance she would have, because all she wanted was to know you were into her.

Situations' fucked, bail out.

>You're an adult, so act like one
He's going to "camps". He's underage b&.

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Well I couldn't really push for more because someone knocked my tent over mid-makeout and it kinda killed the vibe.. I am an adult lmao, it's college events. I think you might be right about the validation thing, that's why I'm not initiating shit this time.

This guys full of shit.

Girls don't like nice guys. They want someone that's mysterious and somewhat of an asshole that will fuck them hard. It also helps to have some money or at least a decent car.

>I'm pretty notorious for picking up women that are way out of my league.
Sorry, don't believe you. Agree to disagree.

>If you can't thank someone serving for much, at least thank most of them for taking the gross women out of the equation.
I've got a lot of respect for the military and I do regret not having done it myself. It was peacetime when I went through recruitment (physical, ASVAB, the works, I just didn't sign when the time came). I figured there wouldn't be any war in my time. By the time Afghanistan/Iraq rolled around, I was settled into a career and not pleased with the Bush administration.

>And I see your point on not knowing how to get laid. I guess it does seem super easy when you have experience already. It would probably be harder the more time you go without it.
This can not be said enough. It's very, very true. It's not a skill you can easily pick up later in life, because your inadequacies are even more obvious and the patience for them is way less.

His numbers might be exaggerated. But, I think it's mostly a case of him having low standards.

ehhh you might be able to play it off not-creepy... maybe msg her like 'hey this is user from the mall the other day. Just wanted to say it was rly nice talking to you, hmu if you'd ever like to grab a cuppa sometime.' Hopefully it'll be the right person and she won't ask how you got the contact, but if she does ask respond like 'yeah u got me lol- I felt rly dumb later for not offering u my number, so I just asked google and crossed my fingers.' GL OP

>But, I think it's mostly a case of him having low standards.
Bingo. I once tried fucking a chick that I had no attraction towards and I literally couldn't get hard no matter how hard I tried. I honestly don't get how guys fuck ugly/fat chicks, it seems impossible without viagra or something.

You sound really fucking desperate so you probably took what was her just being somewhat friendly and in your mind made it into something it's definitely not.

Look for someone closer to your age and realistically probably a 6 or 7 tops.

Eh, believe me. Don't believe me. Doesn't matter.

I'm very nice and polite. I get women. But I actually go out and present myself. I have fun with it. If a woman isn't interested or I don't care for her after talking to her, I excuse myself and move onto the next one. Social cues are pretty easy to notice. I also don't going out EXPECTING to get laid. It's all about having a good time.

I was thinking something like that, yeah. I could even say that she told me her full name, and let her think her memory is faulty. Her first name isn't very common anyway, which made the search easier.

I was thinking, "Did we meet at X on St Paddy's Day? If so, it was nice talking. I regretted not exchanging info. If you're around and want to get together, now you know how to find me."

>You sound really fucking desperate so you probably took what was her just being somewhat friendly and in your mind made it into something it's definitely not.
This is possible. Definitely something that concerns me. But, can't really get a second opinion on it.

>Look for someone closer to your age and realistically probably a 6 or 7 tops.
Closer to my age is okay for sex, not for a relationship, women have an expiration date. 6 or 7 sounds low, I do kinda have standards, despite not being entitled to such.

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>Social cues are pretty easy to notice.
Not for me.

>I also don't going out EXPECTING to get laid. It's all about having a good time.
Being in a crowded bar or whatever isn't a good time. The whole reason for being there is to get laid.

That's women man, who fucking understands them? It sounds like she could be playing games, could be trying to get you to make another move or could just be her personality and how she acts with her friends, who knows?

Like I said, believe it or don't, I don't care. I think my standards are up to par, but whatever.

Also, I joined during the Obama administration. Didn't agree with him much either. Trump has half the Army excited that we may go to war and half of us worried about it. I personally don't care. Almost done with it. But around when I joined, a buddy of mine said something like "I joined for the country I love, not the people that run it." That kind of helped me out when I saw how fucked up the higher ups are in the military.

Amen. Idk she has a lot of other guy friends, some who were also there but I didn't see her doing that sort of shit with them.

BANANA TITS

It's tough to let go, but if she was really interested, she wouldn't have left without your info.

Do you have a career? Money? House?

If you're serious about finding a girl for a relationship all these things would help and could probably get you a closer to an 8.

If you want to meet women, go volunteer at a hospital or care center. Those places are crawling with women and will allow you to develop relationships with them without having to stalk little girls in the mall.

Her friends dragged her off on purpose, to get her away from you. They've already had a laugh about it and you're now the "old creeper dude at the mall."

Move on with life and work towards a more reasonable score.

Not really. Usually there is a large group of us going out, male and female. Personally, I love hanging out and talking to my people. Meeting people that I will never talk to again is also a blast. I met a group of people from Germany last night at a Patty's day thing and they were a lot of fun. It was pretty awesome discussing the differences in our cultures and junk.

People that are anti social or don't like bars use that excuse as a reason not to go to them. They can be a great experience with the right group of friends and knowing your limits on booze

In my case, I turned 18 during the Clinton administration, and it looked like there wouldn't be any conflicts. So, serving didn't really do much, and it wasn't the best way to advance career wise. By the time Bush came around, I would have had to give up my career to join and go to a shitty war based on lies.

I voted for Obama and Trump. I kinda love Trump. I think he is less likely to start a war than Obama was, and way less than Hillary would have been.

I do know one guy who had things work out great. I don't want to get too specific, but he's a submariner and got an Ivy League degree and an Ivy League PhD. He's a reservist and professor now. So, he's got a bunch of extra cash, all the prestige of both worlds, and very little actual responsibility on the military side. The only issue in that regard is that the reserves are top heavy for officers, so making it to captain will be tough for him.

33 yr old here, you remind me of a 40+ yr old friend of mine we call rapey-rob. He just lacks social graces and gets super ronery. So ronery. Gets him into trouble with women. This would be a scenario where he wouldn't know when to let it go.

Let it go. Don't be a rapey Rob !

>I don't go to malls. I don't have the skills to pick them up
Then she wouldn't have fucked you anyways.
Numbers don't mean jack shit, and you failed to get even that.
A majority of the time, a number will not pan out in a date, especially when you're meeting random people in public.

First person you replied to here. I would not ask if you have the right person- just msg her like you know it's her. Bc like u said, she may just misremember that she gave u the contact, so don't out yourself by asking. Would help to know what kinda contact option we're talking about btw- is it an email hopefully or what?

>Do you have a career? Money? House?
Yes, a very prestigious one. Yes, but had some financial setbacks lately, Yes, multiple homes.

I'm also just shy of 6', 185lbs, and apparently girls think I am closer to 30 than 40 (it's happened a few times recently, where they ask my age and I have them guess). I am starting to lose my hair though.

I just don't have the social skills. I don't pick up on cues. I'm not good at that forced conversation shit. I can have an interaction and only recognize its significance hours later.

>If you want to meet women, go volunteer at a hospital or care center.
Ugh. No fucking way. Always hated those places. Had to spend a ton of time at them in the past few years (my uncle, business partner all died of cancer and my ex-girlfriend got breast cancer and had a mastectomy).

>Those places are crawling with women and will allow you to develop relationships with them without having to stalk little girls in the mall.
I don't want to spend lots of time developing relationships. I want to rack up numbers before I hit 40. I want to finally be the guy that can just pick up women.

I hadn't considered this. Interesting.

>Usually there is a large group of us going out
I am generally by myself.

>Meeting people that I will never talk to again is also a blast.
Not to me. It always feels weird, just leaving things hanging. I don't like how disposable it is. Like, why did I bother investing that time?

>People that are anti social or don't like bars use that excuse as a reason not to go to them. They can be a great experience with the right group of friends and knowing your limits on booze
That doesn't invalidate it, for me and people like me. And, I don't have a group of friends to go places with. I also don't drink.

Let's hear some Rapey Rob stories.

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Yeah, if you were already halfway to a career, the Army is kind of pointless. I had my AA and a year of school before my scholarships ran out. I'm a few months shy of getting out and got accepted to my college of choice. Now I get basically 4 years of free college, so I can damn near get my Ph.D for free and Veteran preference does get me higher up on the stack for employment. The Army fucked me up (going to be a disabled vet) but it also put my foot in the door for a lot of good money.

I was too young to vote for Obama the first time. Got him the second time around though. I didn't vote for Trump, but I didn't vote for Hillary either. Couldn't see either of them as my boss. Now I just keep my polotics quiet until it isn't illegal for me to talk shit.

That guy went the smart route. I joined the enlisted side even though I scored high on the ASVAB and I already had a degree. And yeah, reserves have a lot of Officers. I noticed that when I looked into the Green to Gold program.

>I want to rack up numbers before I hit 40.

Sorry, that ain't gonna happen chasing 20 year olds. You're gonna have to go the MILF route at this point.

>Then she wouldn't have fucked you anyways.
Maybe. I picked up a woman on the street 3 weeks ago, and within a few hours I was fucking her raw. I had help from a wingman, as mentioned above So, it does happen.

I've been hoping to replicate that recent success.

>A majority of the time, a number will not pan out in a date, especially when you're meeting random people in public.
I like to give out my business cards. I've got a very prestigious job, so it's a way to humble brag and leave it entirely in their hands without putting myself out there too much. When she asked about what I did, I should have handed her a card as part of the explanation. I fucked up.

If I knew she had my info, even if she never contacted me, I wouldn't be kicking myself for fucking up. I'd just assume she wasn't interested. As it stands, I feel bad about possibly having blown the opportunity, and that's why I want to fix the situation.

Found a LinkedIn page. It looks essentially blank (she's just out of college), but all the details match up with what she told me about herself.

I could just request her as a contact, which is
pretty "meh". I don't have a LinkedIn though and a freshly cooked one might look suspicious.

That's pointless. And easy. I know I can do that.

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that chicks tits have tits..

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>"let's just be friends"
>Still hang out heaps
youre a pathetic bitch and deserve whatever emotional abuse she hits you with

Having to pay for tinder to work.
>Being this beta

>I can damn near get my Ph.D for free
Real PhDs are free. PhD students get paid. Unless it's in a useless subject. But any valid PhD (science, math, etc) is entirely free of tuition and comes with a stipend/fellowship ($20-35k). And it will take 4-7 years to complete.

Disclaimer: I'm in academia.

>The Army fucked me up (going to be a disabled vet)
What happened?

My father had a lot of issues from 'Nam. He didn't really like the idea of me joining the military. Meanwhile, my mother always seemed to resent me going to college, and she seemed pleased that my brother dropped out multiple times.

>That guy went the smart route.
That guy went to Harvard, so...

Basically, this.

>That's pointless. And easy. I know I can do that.

The dudes who racked up the score back in the day, that you seem envious of, did it with chicks their own age. You want to play the same game but with different rules? Keep torturing yourself dude, then finally ask yourself what it was keeping you from racking up the score back then. It's the same thing fucking you up now.

...cont.

FYI I've been a creeper before and got it to work out right. Caught feelings for someone online and finessed my way into IRL contact in a way that seemed natural to them, but between /b and me it rly wasn't lol. After getting to know em a bit more it didn't work out and that's ok, but it might have worked out, and if I hadn't creeped (crept? creepeded?) a bit I never woulda got close enough to find out and woulda always wondered

Yea just let it go OP. Here friends clearly dragged her off because they thought you were creepy or something.


Trust me they would have let her chat with you if they thought you were cool.and more then likely the girl is probably too nice and doesn't known how to walk away.

I know since I've had to be the friend to catch on to another friends subtle uncomfortablness and take them away and I've also had friends do it to me when I didn't know how to walk away from a guy

>Not to me. It always feels weird, just leaving things hanging. I don't like how disposable it is. Like, why did I bother investing that time?

I am a social butterfly. I get that you aren't. Our brains are different. I see a lot of benefit to these throw away conversations while you see none. No harm, no foul.

>That doesn't invalidate it, for me and people like me. And, I don't have a group of friends to go places with. I also don't drink

I guess a lot of what I said still applies. I would like to point out that me personally, ai have never once gone out with pure intent to get laid. I genuinely just enjoy people and connecting with them, even at the smallest level. You don't. I don't think negatively about that. I find it to be interesting and I hope you find a way around some of that so you can spark up conversations with women you are interested a little easier in the future. Also, props on not drinking. I enjoy a nice buzz and a good cigarette, but I am also DD a lot.

I once went to an asian massage place. In what used to be the Combat Zone in Boston, which is now Chinatown and maybe the Theater District. It's a shitty scene. I've been to lots of AMPs in the DC area and on Long Island. I'm something of a connoisseur.

Anyway, this pig was giving me a massage in a dirty space. She was 60ish? Who knows with asians. Very boxy. Not attractive. When it came time for the happy ending, she asked what I wanted, and I said I wanted to fuck. She was very surprised, agreed, then ran out of the room for a bit, came back and we got down to business. It was an okay fuck for me.

I never really think about it, like I do others. Almost blocked it out of my mind, I guess.

Weird experience.

I forget what I paid. It wasn't much. Definitely well under $100.

Btw same user here.

Instead of seeking Advice from btards about girls just ask an actual girl.

You guys always do this...like asking financial advice from a hobo.

Essentially this, even the girls you do bang are just in it for your money. Which is still different rules, youre paying for the sex because you werent biologically fit enough to get it normally

this
G.I.R.L. will help you out user, the rest of us are out Sage goes in all fields

C ya space cowboy

LinkedIn hmm.. from what u sayin and iirc you gotta make your own account there to msg ppl in it, and if your acct creation date is visible that's not ideal like u said. I would try to creep harder for an email or something with less potential to set off creeper alarms

lawl, dubs speaks the truth. Youre already in too deep; double down

I'm always here and always willing to help. Most anons are so hostile though...the irony baffles me.

"Help me talk to girls! I'm so lonely"

"Hey I'm girl I can help you out!"

"Ugh get out slut tits or gfto"

Lol it's hilarious and its why most of you are alone

>You want to play the same game but with different rules?
I missed out on my youth. I'll never be able to let that go.

>then finally ask yourself what it was keeping you from racking up the score back then
I was fat, socially awkward, had a fucked up home life, and wasn't around girls (I got sent to an alternative school).

Now it's different. I'm still fucked up, clearly, but in different ways.

That's the thing, I don't want to spend forever regretting not having tried. I regret enough missed opportunities as it is.

>Here friends clearly dragged her off because they thought you were creepy or something.
Maybe. Their group split and they were rushing to catch up with the others though, which is an adequate explanation to me.

>the girl is probably too nice and doesn't known how to walk away
Yes, possibly. But, she was encouraging it, I wouldn't have been talking to her otherwise. And she was eagerly introducing me to her friends.

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