What does Sup Forums think about Jordan Peterson?

What does Sup Forums think about Jordan Peterson?

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Very smart, but it's aggravating watching idiots interview him and watch him having to constantly redirect the conversation away from the confusion of the host

idol worship isn't healthy, yet so many people bow to this man. Good inspiration on most things, but I think it's good to find at least one thing to disagree with everybody on. Mine with him is abortion, for example

you can always listen to his lectures while doing something else, which i love
honestly I can't see why anyone would hate him
that's why im asking Sup Forums because there is going to be some guy on here i know it

The smarter you are, the more some people will hate you. The fact that he is usually right AND can illustrate why is a guarantee that lots of people won't like him.

>hes a pretty cool dude.
>a lot of his stuff about being an adult, transitioning into adulthood for millennials and such is helpful
>he has a lot right about postmodernism but his very forward-thinking extrapolations come off as paranoia to mainstream audiences
>most of his recent thoughts on how men and women interact in the workplace is pretty insane

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It is my sole belief that if Sup Forums was around when Sagan was still alive, both him and Peterson would get the same amount of cordial respect from Sup Forumstards, who at the same time would still keep their shit-cannons cocked and ready in case of any slip-up.

Also, pic related

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Yes, he pointed out the strange situation where men are constantly criticized for treating women in a sexual manner, yet the women wear high heels and make up that is used to enhance their appearance sexually. It's very interesting.

he helped me with my depression
I recommend listening his lectures if you have mental problems or any serious problem

I've read threads on 4 chins where young men ask for advice on different topics. The majority of advice and ridicule (when translated from faggot, nigger, betafag etc.) is about personal responsibility, getting off your ass, being confident, alpha etc. Not surprising to me at all that 4 chan users would, for the most part, appreciate Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson is an old fag schooling new fags but on a top tier psychological level.

A brilliant mind and voice that world needs right now.

dead on user, never saw it like that

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Jew.

But still the same time he stresses the idea that everyone try harder so that they can be strong enough to help those that can't achieve higher levels.
You work hard at school and your job to minimize the number of people who need assistance so that the people who need assistance can get it.
Thats the part everyone skips.

I don't know his opinion on this. What's his argument?

I think he is truly trying to help this world.

He's excellent at extracting money from mongoloids.

Yes

Look up in youtube"the man Jordan Peterson warned you about becoming"

Not as good as Glen Beck

He's a fucking idiot, doesn't know shit about marxism and pushes alt right propaganda.

Hes cool and makes a lot of good points. I'm sure SJW's will try and get him fired for having different opinions than them.

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Has been a huge help for my life,introduced me to politics but hate that people on the right think he is on their side

clean it user

forgot meme

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I think he's a crackpot when he touches the evolutionary biology stuff. I haven't read his psychology papers

Honestly? He's a classic example of someone who is absolutely reinforcing the status quo while somehow being styled as an edgy outsider.
Spouts "common sense" platitudes that are easy to digest, but ultimately oversimplify a complex world.
The fact that so many Sup Forumstards idol worship him speaks volumes. Pure beta bait. Easy solutions to keep everyone in their little boxes.
Think for yourself.

I know. He really isn't. No one who is very smart could be.

>doesn't even lift

Are you Nassim Taleb?

>Anyone to the right of Chairman Mao
>Automatically an Alt-right Neo-Nazi

Neck yourself tbh Antifa sheep. I'm pretty sure he knows a heck of a lot more about Marxism than you do; beyond whatever vague utopian paradise you think is somehow magically tenable.

I haven't given him a cent , yet his message has improved my work life ten fold. You're aloud your opinion on any person you like though, that's the beauty of being an individual in the west. I hope your room is clean. Good day sir

I like his views on almost everything except religion (he's religious and I'm an atheist).

That ruins his credibility a bit for me. =P

You are I'll informed

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no, who is that

BUT IT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM GOY

Agree with him on some things, but his views on religion almost come off as gibberish.

>You are I'll informed
I will informed?

Think hes a boss. Listen to him during work and really helps me get though with my existential touble/crisis. Hopefully for good at some point

I've only ever seen him on JRE, but I know he triggers SJW's so he must be alright.

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He loves hierarchies and religion is the ultimate hierarchy.
I would suggest that you think long and hard about how his religious leanings inform his other beliefs.

even if you think for yourself you do what he tells you to so..?

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You're all being played.

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7/10

He's a prominent intellectual who is providing young men with encouragement and debunking The lie they've been told that they are the cause of all the world's problems. He absolutely destroys feminists and left wing gender bender idealogues. What's not to like?

Overrated. I think he gets a little too preachy at times without knowing the reasons. Especially the bit about the importance of having a family. Yeah Jordan, I'd love to have a family but I'm not going to commit to one knowing I cold lose it within a blink of an eye just because my wife decided she was bored and needed to "find herself" by taking a backpacking trip to India and robbing me of my kids. It's not mens faults that we want to stay single now and never grow up. Blame the judicial system.

>(((postmodernism))) is destroying le west
>they want me to call them they? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>love jebus
>clean your room buggo
>i am your replacement father figure
>muh freeze peach
>L O B S T E R S

complete shit tier.
White male identety politics and christian conservatism mixed.
College republicans and fedora vapelords just get enchanted by his pseudo intellecual bs and basic self help advice...
Also its hilarious to see muh rational sceptics defend him seeing how hes an actual creationist but w/e :^)

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He's pretty legit. Made me actually rethink my National Socialist ideological programming. 2016/2017 I was deep into it, the more I started listening to him the more I began to question if I was being made into a puppet for a pernicious form of group think. So I'll definitely thank him for that. It would be nice if the radical leftists would give a rethink to their presuppositions as well, but most of them wont.

That being said, I disagree with him on a number of matters. He's dismissive of environmentalism, and is a staunch humanist. I disagree with the Abrahamic axiom that humanity, by virtue of being "in the image of God" are somehow entitled to rape and ravage the world in whatever way they see fit. I also dislike his equation of Antinatalist thinking with pure nihilism, although there are parallels. His Christ-cuckery can also be a little draining at times, but he does do a good job of disentangling such parables into easily digestible material.

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he is a rather intelligent person and i find his perspective refreshing. i would say he is worth listening to. i also love the challenges he undertakes for free speech

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>Commie Detected

He's telling you what you all want to hear.
Always be wary of the guy peddling easy answers to difficult questions.
Real personal growth comes from challenging your ideals and pushing yourself. Not retreating into stale prejudice and easy assumptions.

damn dude, he red pilled you to an extent?

>not talking out of your ass about marxism makes one a commie

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Yep. Like 99% of alt-right heroes, he's playing a character.

I think his decision to not call people by their desired pronoun (he or she ONLY) is kinda douchey but other than that he is fine. He is a beacon of light in the darkness of Canada right now. So many filthy sjw fucks are running rampant and I love how he triggers them. I'm 29 and very liberal on basically everything but I cannot stand the sjws anymore and cannot in good conscience vote for a left wing party anymore because they are all far too tainted by sjw garbage so for the first time I will be voting conservative lol.

He's the shit. He is well researched, articulates his points superbly and chooses his words very carefully. Very refreshing to listen to as he is speaking truths that the left need to hear.

this guy & his sad fantasies
he knows Marxism far better than you
as do i
but no feat vs 12 & /b

There's a lot of easy money in reassuring fools by telling them what they want to hear.
Confirming their fears. Reinforcing their prejudices.
But doing it all wearing a suit and using long academic words.
He's a smart man, but not for the reasons most of you think.

The man has gone on to critique the far right as well as the far left. He's very centrist.

>I think his decision to not call people by their desired pronoun (he or she ONLY)
he never said that

>pseudo intellecual
no worries you're the king there

>He's a smart man, but not for the reasons most of you think.
He's a smart man, but not for the reasons most of you think.
funny how that works

he never said he would not called people by their desired pronoun. he actually said if a student ever asked him he would, he doesnt like the idea of state controlled speech. the fact that you legally have use a certain type of language is a limit against free speech and shouldnt even be thought of.

No. I was already red-pilled; in fact I was overdosing on them when I started listening to his lectures. He made me rethink it, as in take a minute and say "hold on; maybe completely formulating my world-view based on hatred and bitterness is a bad idea." I'm still pretty red-pilled but I've gotten away from the "14/88 gas the kikes race war now" absurdity.

So, young men want to hear to take personal responsibility for their actions? I guess that makes sense. I'm not sure that telling man-children to grow up is an easy answer, even if it's an obvious one. And what stale prejudices are you talking about, exactly? As I pointed out above, Peterson helped me GET OVER a lot of my inherent prejudice by analyzing my own former ideology. I'd say he encourages real personal growth if anything.

I heard got in trouble for not using tranny pronouns,
thats all I know about him.

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You actually have the nerve to say someone is talking out of their ass when you attempt to promulgate the narrative that he is pushing an alt-right agenda. OK. The man has been studying Marxism for years, but I'm sure you and your liberal arts degree will school him. gtfo.

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He has some great points that have the possibility of changing America and the Western world for the better.

I've purchased 5 copies of his book of 12 Rules for Life, and gifted them to my dear friends that I'd like to have better lives.

Act it out, and you make everything you're complaining about infintely worse!
You have to be all-in in this game.
Suffering is the consequence of our existance.
Are you aiming at the right thing? Be careful of what you aim at.
Pick up your damn suffering!

and my favorite...
Fix what you can fix.

>99%
You sure about that? Ann Coulter has been spewing this shit way before it was cool.

the actual alt right hates him. go to Sup Forums once in your life and see how much they hate him and the left entirely. stop making up arguments.

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Again, what prejudices is he reinforcing? Is he spouting hate against the trans community by questioning authoritarian enforced speech laws? Despite the fact he's stated multiple times he has no ill-will towards LGBTQ people ...

Protestor: "What do you think of the nazi presence at your speech?"

Peterson: "I don't like nazis."

And despite his constant criticism of all forms of totalitarian systems, far-leftists still identify him as a "Fascist" because he criticizes their preferred totalitarian systems. Many alt-right types will call him a "cuck" or "soyboy" for the same reason. It's hilarious in a sad, sad way.

The gender spectrum/pronoun issue is about combating prescribed speech and social constructionist legislation. It's essentially Pandora's box that they are opening with this as where does it stop? He is openly accommodating toward the trans community

They don't bother; they listen to whatever their demagogues and ideologues tell them- then go along with it unquestioningly. Exactly what Peterson warns against. Of course, extreme right people typically do exactly the same thing ...

you are trying to play us- agreed

he's useful

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Why in fuck's name would I want to read the delusions of 200 fat virgin neckbeards?

yup
moderates/centrists always getting fucked by extremists, trantrumists

Sup Forums is like tumblr though, they hate things for the sake of having something to hate.

Nice response, user.

You must have a clean room.

at the same time he is trying to overcome depression

so you know what you're mischaracterizing
tho i realize that parroting is your preferred milieu

Telling manchildren that doing the obvious and growing up will solve everything is an over simplification.
And the fact that he pulled you back from braindead nazism to standard misogyny doesn't win him or you any medals.

beccause 200 fat virgins got the current president of the free world elected with a cartoon frog you literal brainlet

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I have no dog in this fight.
But he's got a book to sell.

that wasnt actually me you first replied to though.

The user claimed he is "parroting alt-right talking points" which is different from having an AR agenda tbh.

He is parroting such points. His rethoric about postmodernism is very close to the shit people like PJW say about supposed (((cultural marxism))), peterson is just to smart to directly associate with a litteral litteral nazi conspiracy theory.

(tbh i dont even think he fully belives this stuff, it is just reeeeally profitable for him to pretend he does)

He's not a creationist.

He makes some really good points. But there are really few, once you listen to him several times you'll notice that he always get in to the same subjects using similar strategies.


Still good tho

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Pretty cool dude.

He is a much needed guiding light, I suggest (as an oldfag who’s been through the mill) that you do and start making incremental changes to a really fucking awesome life. Take masculinity back.

So why are you now assuming I'm a misogynist? Since you believe he's a misogynist based on lies. And at the same time you actually believe your own malevolent, murderous group-think is somehow the cutting edge, the path to some crystal palace future. Read Dostoevsky. Read Solzhenitsyn, read anything except more Marx and Lenin for the love of all that is good. If I can get out of my "brain dead nazism", so too can you escape your brain dead Marxism.

very smaahahAHAHAHAHAHA

you have to be a major dipshit to think this guy is smart, which is why the altright and teenage edgelords love him

"You're running out of time, dr freeman" (?

It doesn't sound like you've ever listened to a single lecture he's given.

yeah ik

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Why don't you tell us who is smart, since you're so much the wiser, then.

Fucking lol. You'll fall for whatever is said to you in a confident voice, because you are weak willed.

most species of crabs, for a start

A fool and his money

If that were the case I would almost assuredly be protesting intersectionality and other far-left causes, since they are the loudest and most confident voices in the west at present time.

Not liking nazis doesn't make you progressive or centrist. He just recognises that nazis are a toxic presence.
He's an old school misogynist. He may not wish LGBTQ people harm, but he ignores the fact that they face an unjust society.
I don't really have the time or energy to school you all on it. As I said before, it's way way easier to provide easy answers, which he does, than to try and explain why the world is a bit more complicated than that, which is what you're asking me to do.
But I'm always skeptical of any dude who comes along and goes "you know what, it's everyone else who's wrong. you just need to smarten yourself up and the world is yours for the taking!" when white men are, and always have been, in charge.