All the bullshit about vinyl being the "best way to listen" is just marketing bs pushed by labels and bands to fight...

All the bullshit about vinyl being the "best way to listen" is just marketing bs pushed by labels and bands to fight piracy, prove me wrong

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No, you're 100% right. They don't sell music anymore because people don't buy music so they sell pieces of antiquated plastic and cardboard to snowflakes.

"Best" is debatable, but it's definitely different than digital. Analog records on vinyl is "the way it was intended" by the original artists/producers. But "best" is subjective and technically, digital is better, but you know when it comes to art, technical objective stuff is not 100% relevant, or else people wouldn't listen to indie artists, whose productions are probably technically inferior to that of top 40 radio music.
I don't know if that comparison makes a lot of sense but there you go.

Anyway, people shouldn't get mad at the different ways other people listen to music.

I usually listen to digital these days. its just easier

No ones getting "mad" about the way people listen to music because everyone listens to music the same way: with their ears. There is no different way to listen to music.

The issue only comes up when retards pretend their obsolete storage medium sounds superior to digital. Protip: it doesn't, because it's a scientific fact that it can't. The fidelity of digital is superior to analog without exception.

But retards can't into science, they're too busy staring at shiny objects.

but muh vinyl crackling sound

>No ones getting "mad" about the way people listen to music because everyone listens to music the same way: with their ears. There is no different way to listen to music.
I mean the format. There's also lossless vs mp3 wars.
A lot of people listen to music through shitty speakers and audio systems anyway. Audiophiles aren't really that numerous, it's kind of impractical to be one.

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>Under no legitimate circumstances will the dynamic range of vinyl ever exceed the dynamic range of CD, under any frequency, given the wide performance gap and the physical limitations of vinyl playback.

And they're talking about the lowly CD here and not some modern lossless digital format.

Anybody claiming that their vinyl records sound "superior" to digital is to be dismissed with extreme prejudice. It's literally impossible if the digital format and vinyl record were taken from the same master.

You've never listened to your dad's vinyl records on his sound system? They definitely sound better, but they're not worth the hassle involved.

You're probably talking about contemporary 'hipsters' desu. Obviously most modern shit is recorded digitally, so transferring that to vinyl kind of kills the point.

Stop killing your talented work with adolescent behavior.

I WILL CHOP YOUR HEAD OFF MYSELF FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR MUSIC

what did he mean by this?

I agree, that's why I said digital is technically better, but for music that was originally recorded in analog, it may be worth checking out the original release, just to see how it sounded originally. It's not just about the needle crack, the overall sound is different than on digital.
different =/= better.
People buying vinyls of digital records are just doing it for the novelty, in that case it is kind of snobbish, but whatever.

meet me somewhere

>your dad's vinyl records
user, most Sup Forumstant's dads had nirvana and RHCP CDs

are you 12 or something?

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Motherfucking cheapshot artists.

>t. a Baptist

I doubt that. I mean I'm in my early 20s and most of my friends' dads have some sort of vinyl collection stowed away.

This is what vinyl idiots always do, they have to come up with retarded caveats to justify their retardation.
>b-but muh records recorded and m-mastered b-before the introduction of digital

Doesn't matter. Doesn't change the facts. Vinyl is an obsolete format and is inferior to digital recording/playback.

Vinyl is that hard tactical feel.

Only a laser disc cunt can refute.

>vinyl idiots
You do seem mad, though.
I'm not a vinyl fan, I just think it's not to be completely ignored when it comes to analog records, is all.

>Analog records on vinyl is "the way it was intended" by the original artists/producers.
No it wasn't. The master tape is the way it was intended. Vinyl is a considerable compromise compared to that. Plenty of people are unhappy with the way their work came out sounding on vinyl.

it's not the best way to listen to music, I don't think any intelligent listener argues that...

it's just nice to own a physical piece of the band's work..and makes me feel better about pirating all the rest of their shit

>They definitely sound better
lol no

>Obviously most modern shit is recorded digitally, so transferring that to vinyl kind of kills the point.
the "totally analog signal path" thing is a retarded meme; anyway a very large amount of analog recorded music went through a digital delay as it was being cut to vinyl

it's also nostalgia and delusion

Sure, many people were dissatisfied, but many others made their production choices based on the most popular format at the time, vinyl.
So, okay, not in all cases, but in many, vinyl is the way originally intended.
Artists didn't expect regular people (i.e., their public) to listen to the original master.

I don't listen to vinyl because its too expensive and easier just to click something but there is some kind of earthlyness about pulling out a record and playing it. Its kind of like e-books vs physical books where you get the same product but one just feels more natural.

You're Goddamn right, I'm mad as fuck.

Bullshitting retards piss me off. Fuck vinyl records. Fuck every idiot parrot telling me how "warm" vinyl sounds compared to digital.

Faggots I lived through the 70s, I know exactly how vinyl sounds: scratchy. Grab a spoon and a fork because you need to eat my shit.

Yeah, there's a certain appeal to playing music on a contraption without a screen.

>but many others made their production choices based on the most popular format at the time, vinyl.
because they wanted to fit 30 minutes on a side and not make the needle jump out of the groove, not because it's really the sound they were going for

I rarely even listen to vinyl dude. I have a few LPs that I keep at my dad's which I might listen to maybe twice a year. I don't even use an amp for my headphones or care about FLAC, the difference it makes isn't worth the hassle. Same goes to vinyl; the difference the sound makes isn't worth the hassle. But it's still better imo.

>a very large amount of analog recorded music went through a digital delay as it was being cut to vinyl
Mind naming any such popular records?

>Fuck every idiot parrot telling me how "warm" vinyl sounds compared to digital.
mostly it sounds much more distorted

Chill man, if you don't like vinyl just don't listen to it.

>Mind naming any such popular records?
not sure exactly when it was introduced, but probably most releases after the mid 70s

>over 50
>posting on Sup Forums

Bitch I'm 73, fuck you.

>over SEVENTY
>posting on Sup Forums

Finally, someone gets it.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game faŠ¼.

I know Sup Forums hates audiophiles but the absolute best way to listen to music is with a high-end speaker or headphone setup and digital media.

nothing sounds warmer than cassette tape

agree on digital but a good speaker system absolutely blows headphones out of the water for 90% of music

I used to think that way until I picked up a pair of Audeze LCD-2s. They provide something you can't quite get from speakers. HD-800s as well.

Speakers are still better overall, but I live in an apartment and like to listen to things loud so I'm kind of constrained.

if you fill half your room with acoustic treatments maybe

Yeah that too, there's none of those issues with headphones if you don't have any solid objects right next to your head.

Sure, whatever you say pal.

> Analog records on vinyl is "the way it was intended" by the original artists/producers.
what does that even mean.... do you know how many albums are recorded with analogue gear anymore ?

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yea no one disagrees, i just like owning a physical copy of something that i can look at. I like CD's and Cassettes too for my van

Vinyl doesn't sound the best, it's clunky, they're a lot of work to keep safe and clean, but they just feel nice to own. There's nothing more satisfying than laying down a record fresh from the sleeve.

I mean, I still pirate while buying records, so...

hipster playing into the hands of the music calitalists

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idiot

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You don't have to buy new albums on vinyl. Just get classic rock, it's easy as fuck to find and dirt cheap.

you can pirate vinyl too

You collect vinyl as a hobby, for the art and self-value aspect. Obviously it isn't inherently better or even equal to lossless digital on its own.

This. All I get on vinyl is old shit from 60s to 80s because they are cheap and easy to find, and i also love the packaging and all of that shit, I don't even have a very good record player btw. But I buy them very rarely anyway, so whatever

That's an interesting read. But I can't even think of any records in my dad's collection off hand which are from past the mid 70s. He was born in the late 50s and collected vinyl till his mid 20s; around the time when he married my mom. I think he started collecting CDs right after cause he has a shelf of CDs from the early 80s.

The scratching of the needle in the grooves of a vinyl record produces feedback that is not intentional.

Analogue sound recorded through analogue methods (particularly vinyl) sound objectively better than analogue sound recorded through digital methods.
To me, there is a notable difference between waveform files pit-against analogue vinyl of the same sound. For most people, this difference isn't noticeable enough for them to warrant the collection of vinyl music. For me, I prefer to have the vinyl release because I appreciate the deeper and subtle sounds within the music.
The detriments of cracks and pops aren't enough to drive me away, and I honestly don't think they drive anyone away to begin with. The simple fact is that vinyl records are delicate things that require effort to use and costs way more for a sound that people would rather listen to on youtube just to get their kicks from the rhythm.

Did I just get b8ed?

I don't think anyone just straight up says this by default. You look it up, and you'll find endless amounts of research done on how digital is objectively better. But there's a certain style vinyls that I really like. Most of my vinyls are punk/metal/wall of sound indie stuff and the additional warmth it gives is great for those while not sacrificing some of the more built in subtle aspects of the music the way cassettes do. And in some cases, it may be the only way to appreciate the records. Like Godspeed You! Black Emperor's F#A# is completely different from it's other iterations. Or that I normally dislike Kanye's production on albums, but the sorta badly done vinyl job on MBDTF combined with the crappy approach to mixing/mastering on typical Kanye records makes for this kinda cool in its own way, Phil Spector meets Kanye experience through the vinyl.

Vinyl on good speakers makes it sound like the band is there, playing over those speakers. Whereas digital shit sounds overly produced. If that makes sense. It sounds incredibly synthetic.

To be honest this is more of a mastering issue than inherent of format. As much as digitally-mastered vinyl not being inherently bad.

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Nobody with a quarter of a brain cell thinks vinyl is the "best way to listen", it's just a more involved way to play your music and more interesting to collect than a bunch of files on your PC.
CDs killed artwork. Artwork stopped being good when CDs became the main music distribution medium.

i buy mostly vinyl for one reason only, most of the shit i enjoy only get released on vinyl.
and no there are no big labels behind these bands. vinyl never went away in music, only from the commercial side of it when cds came.

and yes they are now making a comeback in the trendy stuff, but if you are buying vinyl only because of trends or muh sound, you are doing it wrong and you are a faggot.

pic related, the amount of vinyl releases vs. other formats (discogs)

>All the bullshit about vinyl being the "best way to listen" is just marketing bs pushed by labels and bands to fight piracy, prove me wrong
Its all released in digital anyway. Anything on vinyl today is also on digital.

not even a good troll

Vinyl actually sounds better desu, especially when you consider that most people listen to music as mp3s on piss poor headphones, FLACs or CDs are comparable but I still think it sounds a bit flat

not true, somebody has to rip it first.

>Not buying superior mono mix vinyl for best audio quality possible
Kys, pleb

On a good setup, vinyl sounds perfect.

>vinyl for artwork and comfy
>cd for convenience and versatility
>cassette for being a fucking retard

So what if I just buy vinyls of my favorite bands/albums just to have, I don't even listen to them? Hell, most aren't even opened.

I have over 100 vinyls but no turntable. Started collecting LPs back in 2009 but still haven't bought the turntable. Some of the LPs I bought because I liked one track, some because I liked the cover, etc. all vanity impulse. I have maybe 3-4 LPs of music that I regularly listen to, everything else I listen through YouTube or downloads. Ain't I a weirdo?

>started collecting vinyl when the VMP demon days bullshit went on when it was posted here
>dad had a turntable when he was younger
>pick it up out of my grandma's garage and bring it home
>cancel VMP subscription and replace my second month with Pinkerton
>forget about VMP and receive a vinyl by a guy i've never heard of from them for the third month
>acquire GF who has a ton of vinyls despite listening on a shit polaroid turntable
>some of which include Brand New and NMH
>Sup Forumscore, but I'm not a Sup Forumstant
>gets me into vinyl more
>hook up turntable to my dad's receiver to listen to with headphones, eventually give him his receiver back because I got my own
Now my vinyl collection is growing

I think you should set up a Pepsi challenge and find out how incredibly wrong you are but can I save that Pepe anyway please?

im a vinyls nerd ok and you are very wrong: first of all vinyls is the best format of music because it sounds the best (it doesnt decay like digital music does... good luck listening to your MP3 in 10 years it will just be a distorted mess bro). third of all music is supposed to be pressed into vinyls, its literally the first format music was ever recorded on. if you are against vinyls you are against music and hmm maybe you should leave this board (pro tip: its the music board). and last but not leased: its wrong.. the label wonts you to buy digital because it costs them less vynils is a loss for them and your dumb as shit broo

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>>cd for convenience and versatility
At this point why bother with CDs when all-digital is a thing

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i mean, if you damage a CD, it's done for. but if you damage a record, only that part of the record is damaged.

also, i mainly collect vinyl just cause it's collectable honestly

>@

Well, it's just an entirely different thing. Vinyl will be a viable option when the digital world has come and gone, so releasing music on vinyl as opposed to CD or digital files means making yor music available beyond the decadent computer world we live in right now.

Bu-but muh dynamic high fidelity! Muh quiet unbrickwalled sound! Muh music the way it was meant to be listened to in the 60s!

Because people like to own something physical without necessarily filling their apartment with the most pretentious symbol of it.

>he thinks his records will survive the nuclear holocaust

Wrong.

You're wrong.

You are wrong

Wong.

This is wrong.

pure fucking holocaust was a meme made up to justify shitty quality of their music
but varg bought into it

This is wrong.

the majority of people that claim vinyl sounds "warmer and "better" are also listening to it on cheap gear, your $300 record player is going to sound like shit, most people don't even know what a phono pre amp is

fucking plebs not listening to the original master tape, vinyl and digital is literally for the peasant masses

kek you get a little triggered there bud?

>Forgetting the existence of Cassettes

Thanks for the insight, sucker.

Technically its not distortion, it's a phenomenon called LFR or low frequency rumble.

Typically LFR is what vinyl enthusiasts are referring to when they talk about how "warm" vinyl sounds. The only problem is that LFR is a mechanical artifact from the needle of the record player traveling through the groves of a vinyl record, it's literally just added low frequency noise to the recording.

It's always hilarious when a vinyl enthusiast doesn't know what they're describing as "warmth" is just mechanical noise added to a record and then go on to describe the sound as "superior".

All you can do is point and laugh ;^)