Currently in the French-speaking socialist part of Belgium:
>1 in 5 children in Wallonia lives in a household where nobody works
>1 in 4 children in Brussels lives in a household where nobody works
Meanwhile in Flanders:
>1 in 15 children in Flanders lives in a household where nobody works
SOCIALISM BTFO
FRANCOPHONES BTFO
REMOVE CROISSANT
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greater netherlands when?
You have a bigger problem with kebab than croissant. Go reclaim Molenbeek for yourself and the rest of Europe.
Some background info:
Belgium =
>Flanders (6 million people)
+
>Wallonia (3,5 million people)
+
>Brussels (1 million people)
Wallonia + Brussels are French-speaking, and much more leftist/socialist than Flanders.
Wallonia + Brussels were the home of the French-speaking elite during the industrial revolution, but heavy industry has gradually shut down during the mid-20th century.
Because of socialist promises and hand-outs, Wallonia + Brussels remained stuck in the infinite socialist loop of "WORK IS GONE, GIB FREE MONEY" to this day.
The kebab problem is tied with the croissant problem.
First we take on the croissant (and the socialists in general), only then can we start to take on the kebab.
Did you know that Brussels ("Broekzele") used to be a Flemish city until very recently?
The Francophones pulled all kinds of tricks to turn it into a French city, and one of the things they did was attract masses of (French-speaking) Moroccans to help outnumber the Flemish.
I like that part of French Flanders is included.
Reminder that the Francophones LITERALLY want lebensraum from the Flemish.
They keep moving into Flemish towns, refuse to learn Flemish, and then claim those towns for Wallonia as soon as they make up the majority of residents.
Why are French so obnoxious?
Because we let them.
Brussels ;
1/5 is Muslim
2/3 of the births are foreigners
Nuke us, please.
where da flemish womyn at
>1/5 is Muslim
1/4 according to a prominent leftist sociologist.
Go look for Achmedina instead.
I saw a news article stating that there is no ability for any further Muslim immigration to your country to be absorbed.
Any Muslims that come will nit become more like a Belgian. That's kind of scary.
A lot of the ones that came here in the 60s are still 99% culturally Moroccan/Turkish.
It has to happen! I have been longing for this day for 26 years now.
Why do all francophone countries get so fucked up by socialism? Why do we vote for them at all
Vlaanderen, keer terug bij de Verenigde Provincies!
Yeah, hadden ze zich maar beter aangepast, met italianen spanjaarden en polen was dit geen probleem.
Dutch annexation of Flanders when?
VLAANDEREN DE LEEUW!
Socialism is the kind of system that breeds a loyal following (they promise to gib money from da rich after all), but invariably is doomed to fail (people keep voting for more shit, even when there isn't any to go around).
Shit started in the 1800s when socialism was pretty much the only side that was of and for the workers, and it's very tough to get rid of because it's the most populist ideology imaginable.
Maybe you should stop discriminating and start giving francophones and immigrants a serious chance.
I get that but why do france, wallonia, french switzerland parts and in some measure Quebec enjoy the same cancer
It's like speaking french automatically makes you a fucking faggot
>wat waals is
>vals is
Kies allebei
In Belgium it has a lot to do with the sense of superiority they feel from simply speaking French, because muh history.
Little do they know that "French" and "France" literally got the name from the Franks, the Germanic people who conquered and shaped modern Europe starting in FLANDERS with Clovis I.
I'm all for this, but can we keep the clay?
If we flatten all the dilapidated buildings and industry, it really is a beautiful bit of nature.
France is what happens when you divorce a once great Germanic people from the awesome glory of Germanic languages.
>In Belgium it has a lot to do with the sense of superiority they feel from simply speaking French, because muh history
Wtf do you really believe that bullshit ? It's like you don't already have enough bullets against us so you have to make shit up
Not only do I believe it, it's a fucking fact.
Translation:
>Tired of Flemish linguistic demands!
>Be modest, your language is very localized...
>The kebab problem is tied with the croissant problem
They are more sandniggers in Antwerpen than in Liege and Charleroi, our two biggest shitholes, combined.
Go get fucked Jan
But wait, it gets better.
From 1815, when the United Kingdom of the Netherlands established itself apart from the First French Empire, up until 1830 when the Belgian Revolution happened, the whole of our country was plagued by French insurgents and people with provocative agency about them, instigating riots and stoking the fires of malcontent.
They wanted Antwerp and Bruges for themselves, you see, and were not about to let the Dutch keep their hands on those, so they caused a civil war, and planted French aristocracy and bourgoisie at the helm of the new vassal state they were creating.
I wish thuis would happen soms day
Never said Flanders didn't have socialists.
Just far fewer of them.
>our two biggest shitholes
You forgot Brussels. Loul.
>Be modest, your language is very localized
Isn't that true ?
But I don't see why you make the deduction that because of this we have a smug sense of superiority. I've never met anybody in Wallonia who was particurlary proud of speaking french, and the actual old nationalist walloons "wallingants", speak walloon.
Still this protester is probably just a retarded PS drone
It's also pretty interesting to note that Flanders was doing swimmingly before the 1830 revolution.
Flanders relied heavily on textile industry, and a lot of the raw materials came from the Dutch colonial ports.
As soon as Belgium separated from the Netherlands in 1830, those ties with the colonial ports were severed, and Flanders became impoverished.
>You forgot Brussels. Loul.
It's a flemish city, you can have it my friend
How about you prove you're worthy of a chance by lifting Wallonia out of the dumps, you mongrel.
I mean, Wallonia crashed and crashed hard when the age of information replaced the age of industry. I get that. I respect that.
Flanders had nothing but flat, wide open space and a desire for modern infrastructure, so it was easier to build it there from scratch than it was to tear down Wallonia's aging infrastructure and then rebuild it.
It's rough, fuck, it damn near annihilated the region (barring specialized chem industry, but even that is failing).
But it's been well over 30 years. What you're asking us to do is the equivalent of asking Americans to give whatever pops its head out of Detroid a chance.
>Isn't that true ?
See?
You're so deep you don't even realize it.
Walloons draw a huge part of their superiority complex simply from the fact that they speak French.
>Brussels
>Flemish
Lmao.
>They are more sandniggers in Antwerpen t
yet when I walk in Antwerpen it's not as hit as Liege.
Hell there are more sandniggers in Amsterdam and Rotterdam than in Brussels and Liege and Charleroi yet they are the biggest shitholes in the Benelux
Because Dutch sounds like someone barfing in your ears.
Speaking french charms the ladies.
Speaking dutch gets you a paper bag.
Good thing Flemish doesn't sound anything like Dutch.
It's an old hurt, and one that fades slowly, even if it isn't relevant today.
It mostly has to do with the fact that the upper class of Belgium used to be francophone, the crown did not used to speak Dutch, the courts did not used to speak Dutch, the universities and colleges did not used to speak Dutch, the churches did not used to speak Dutch, etc., etc.
There was a more or less active attempt to segregate those who could not master French, and a great deal of superiority in those who could.
But now we're talking pre-WW2, it's just very hard to let go, especially since the last vestiges of this sort didn't disappear until the late 60s.
>You're so deep you don't even realize it.
Dutch is a local language compared to french, sorry that's a fact...But as I said in the rest of my post, I've yet to meet a walloon that takes pride in speaking french. I've yet to meet a proud walloon at all, they're really rare
Man, France would look kind of crappy with Wallonia added to it. It kinda looks like a star as it is.
Yes I know some flemish are still asshurt about that, but they should also keep in mind that pre-WW2, the main language of the commoners in Wallonia wasn't french either, it was walloon
>Dutch is a local language compared to french, sorry that's a fact..
Which is in any way relevant because...?
If anything, a language being very localized is a major reason to PRESERVE it, among others with the very same linguistic measures that make Walloons cry out in their sleep.
>Which is in any way relevant because...?
You tell me, you brought the subject
>shitting on walloons
Fuck you Belgium, you shouldnt even exist and I hope you fall apart.
Leave the Flanders alone and let them come to us like they want to, they dont want to be part of your rapefugees welcome shit.
Walloons are fucking disgusting because you made them that way and now you dont want to do anything with them.
NVA
V
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Actually, this Walloon brought it up:
Ah, Walloon. The Welsh of the mainland.
user, check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Excuse me?
>NVA
Opens their cheeks widely for whatever it is the EU wants, even as they propagate the idea that they want to seperate from Wallonia.
I repeat; the NVA is not Euroskeptic, and the EU will never allow confederalisation.
Where is Bruges at Flanders or Wallonia? Favourite fucking place in Europe, was so comfy and pretty.
You linked to a post you made, but I'll assume you wanted to link to the one you replied to, which is still the same guy you're talking to.
I think he was refering to the pic.
Anyway it's a pointless debate, I could also just turn around and say :
Hurr the main problem in belgium are the flemish and their smug sense of superiority because their language
N-VA is shit, that's a fact.
As soon as Merkel opened the floodgates, our N-VA minister of the interior (Francken) immediately pledged 600 million Euros to the refugee cause, and vowed to process 80 refugees per day (the maximum amount the administration could handle).
FFFFFUUUUUUUUCK n-va.
t. former n-va voter.
Flanders, most of the historically rich and pretty cities (Bruges, Antwerp, Mechelen, Kortijk, Gent, Leuven, etc.) are.
>main problem
I said "it has a lot to do with". And it does.
>minister of the interior (Francken)
Meant to say minister of migration and asylum.
>process 80 refugees per day
Correction: 250 per day.
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>I said "it has a lot to do with". And it does.
How ? Why ?
I don't contest the fact that wallonia is a corrupt socialist shithole, but I don't see what it has to do with the fact we speak french. We could speak italian, or spanish, or still walloon and I don't see what difference it would make
it's common in francophone countries, i think our culture is probably rotten to the core
To be fair, though, I understand Francken's decision.
The fact that he did that will immediately instill within people the feeling of "we are already doing plenty, fuck off with your extra demands", and it did turn out that way. People actually took up the cry that we, as a country, can't do more.
He then went out of his way to expose the way the entire lot of them was trying to abuse the system by camping in Brussels, etc.
If he'd been competely opposed to the idea from the get go, people would've called him a monster and a nazi and demand that he do something, then go out and say he's not doing enough, again and again.
It's fucked up that we can't say no from the get go, but his decision certainly wasn't stupid, and he handled it better than a great deal of other people would have.
Still. EU has to go, fuck NVA.
Tons of Francophones move into Flanders and never bother to learn Flemish.
A large part of the reason why, is because they feel Flemish is a "peasant" language, or an "irrelevant" language; while they speak FRENCH, the language of Molière.
Deny it all you want, you're still a poopyhead.
>B-but, muh refugees
>P-please stay with us Vlaanderen
Geert is their only savior but what can you do, people there cant vote for him.
Belgium has no right to exist, give those walloons back to France and Vlaanderen back to us, tne rest can become a place to deport european muslims to since its a rundown bombing center anyway.
I hope IS bombs you faggots again but this time somewhere that hurts the economy a little more, you rats need to learn your place.
It was a massive cuck move.
We already have hundreds of thousands of Muslims, and they're not exactly doing well, even after more than 4 decades.
I tried to rationalize Francken's pro-refugee decisions too at first, but at some point you have to see the facts and admit that N-VA is just another globalist stooge party.
Either Flanders become independent or we get nation-wide federal level elections.
Socialists put your money where your mouth is: if Belgium has so much solidarity then surely we should have federal nation-wide elections. The Flemish can not punish the Walloon politicians and vice-versa, it is a basic need for democracy to be able to vote for anyone who can legislate.
The socialist power that be will never allow it because Belgium would turn liberal overnight.
Why does all these threads have some asshole autist dutchman pushing his shitty propaganda here ? Fuck off.
Us walloons and flemish might hate eachother, but we hate France and Netherlands more, republicans and protestants can right fuck off, you're not getting any clay
>people there cant vote for him.
A crime against humanity, that.
Also come back with your retarded mongrel Geert when he makes more than 10% of the vote
>nation-wide federal level elections
Pretty sure that would put the socialists firmly in power over the entire country.
N-VA may be the biggest party in Belgium, but only because the Flemish and Walloon socialists are divided into 2 parties.
Take the last federal elections:
- N-VA:
1.366.414 votes
- SPa + PS:
1.382.651 votes
The difference isn't that great, but still. The socialists were relegated to the opposition in that election. Godzijdank.
Did anyone ITT already gave an update about the brutal strikes in Wallonia?
A majority vote in Vlaanderen wants to come back to us, a majority vote walloons wants to make themselves and everyone else French, the only reason Belgium exists is to keep both from going their own way, which is why you shouldnt exist.
This is not about getting clay through propaganda, this is about saving our brothers being held captive by French scum and Belgians making it possible.
We can make vlaanderen great again because we have tons of money, theyre extremely redpilled people and can help us find our balls back.
Those socialist walloons can rot in hell together with the rest of the Belgiancucks, the netherlands and vlaanderen are eachother's greatest allies.
smae. I wihs this wuodl hapen soms day
BEER IS STILL PLENTIFUL, THE STRIKE CONTINUES COMRADES!!!
This is exactly what's wrong with socialism:
>times are good
>workers gain more economic benefits & privileges
>times are bad
>workers will shut down the entire country before they let go of a single economic benefit or privilege
what OP isn't saying is that Walloonia had all the political power before the 70's
and before that we were the poorer region of belgium.
so flanders complained and walloonia gave away certain political positions within the government out of goodwill.
the only reason flanders is now more productive is because walloonia gave us this chance, they weren't obliged to do so but did it anyway.
that being said, i want Dietsland!
>The socialists were relegated to the opposition in that election. Godzijdank.
I have cold sweats only trying to imagine what would've happened if Elio and his merry band of socialist butt pirates were still in charge during this whole muslim wave
He's quickly rising in popularity you idiot, look at recent charts, the change is starting here.
That's what I said, come back when you have something concrete, until then, fuck off
Daily reminder that Dutch is dead language.
Daily reminder that Belgium shouldn't exist.
Daily reminder that Brussels should be nuked.
Daily reminder that shitskins should be removed.
Flanders has been constantly injecting money into Wallonia for decades.
Back when Wallonia was richer, the Flemish either worked or died in the streets.
Wallonia simply won't grow because of socialism; they keep voting for the people who promise them free money.
Honestly, I don't think they would've handled it any worse than Francken (N-VA) did.
250 asylum seekers processed per day. Thanks Francken.
yep, i know.
fucking walloons got us good
We will set everything up, you make sure you start rioting for independence and thenGeert will come save you all from those shitskin Walloons.
>Dutch is a dead language
Last time I heard all of you speak a distant version of ours faggot.
>Go reclaim Molenbeek for yourself and the rest of Europe.
My litmus thest for whether Western Europe is serious about fixing the immigration problem is whether Belgium would be prepared to use NATO troops to "Take Back Molenbeek", which is also the title of my new movie.
Ja, hätten die sich mal besser angepasst. Mit Italiern, Spaniern und Polen war das kein Problem.
Have I understood that correctly?
>Belgium
>Doing anything nationalist with those Socialist walloons attached to them
They dont want to fight their own people Ameribro.
Belgians would LITERALLY rather risk having a confirmed terrorist walk free than actually crack down on places like Molenbeek.
I mean, what if someone calls us r-r-r-r-RACISTS????!!?!?
I, for one, speak French : )
Das ist richtig Opa, now come occupy us again so we kill some socialists together.
Wallonia is poor because foreign investors saw more benefit in Flanders, it's as simple as that.
Wallonia needed an overhaul, Flanders was a new beginning.
>Wallonia gave away certain political positions out of goodwill
That's an odd way of saying they caved because of riots and threats thereof.
This is my favorite kind of thread on Sup Forums.
Get to learn firsthand about the frictions between walloons and frenchies that I've only read about.
I'd really like to see a turk vs greek thread over Cyprus, but I don't think either side really cares anymore.
Except for those guys who re-upload porn videos with titles like "Cypriot whore learns power of turkish dick".
I just hope all you idiots who voted N-VA learned your lesson. Also don't forget that many of Vlaams Belang switched to N-VA several years ago.
There is and never was a real nationalist party in belgium.
This is exactly what's wrong with capitalism:
>times are good
>owners gain more economic benefits & privileges
>times are bad
>owners will shut down the entire country before they let go of a single economic benefit or privilege
BTW, I'm not defending "socialism"; I'm merely destroying your non-argument.
Society isn't a bi-polar construct.
user, sorry to break this to you, Flanders is more socialist than a barrel of Lenins.
>thenGeert will come save you all from those shitskin Walloons.
Recent numbers show you have more sandniggers per capita in vlanderen and netherlands than wallonia. Geert himself is half shitskin, what do you don't understand when I tell you to fuck of ?
>Wallonia is poor because foreign investors saw more benefit in Flanders, it's as simple as that.
Wallonia needed an overhaul, Flanders was a new beginning
Don't forget Flanders also had a quick rebound post WW2 because Antwerpen was one of the only harbors in Western Europe than wasn't bombed to rubbles
it's not like we want them anyways, we already have nord-pas-de-calais, land of the inbred low skill worker, we don't need another one like this
>owners will shut down the entire country before they let go of a single economic benefit or privilege
Lol no they don't.
They downsize and do everything they can to ensure the company survives in some way.
Or if the "bad times" are purely due to country-specific bullshit (like rising wage costs), they'll move the fuck away.
During the last federal election, a right-wing Flemish nationalist party got about the same amount of votes as the Flemish and Walloon socialists combined.