Lolbertarians hate thread

Lolbertarians hate thread

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Bump and +1 for Nationalist and Tradical views instead of cucked soft on race and degeneracy issues

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Poo

wait, is your country made of ICE???? HAHAHAHAHA GET IT!

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Rights are a spook anyway

Dude, let's legalize heroin and open up our borders, bro.

But first let me smoke this joint...

What's with Libcucks and DUDE BORDERS DON'T REAL/le donation based military maymay anyway? Wouldn't it make sense to have a strong outer shell in order to protect the deregulated circumstances within?

I mean... *it should be obvious*. No? O-okay.

not an argument

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Why not have Libertarianism and Nationalism

>It's a "libertarian party is a legitimate option" episode

Can't. Libertarianism requires open borders for a free market. Nationalism requires tightly controlled borders to maintain racial, cultural, and social integrity. As you can see, the two are clearly mutually exclusive at the most basic level.

Keep attacking those strawmen.

That's the best you tiny brain can do, Björn.

You can't get free market without open the borders.

Sorry mate a lot of Libertarians don't like free movement of people or want it. Some Libertarians in the US want it because they have never experienced it, I however have and many UK Libertarians disagree with the EU and open door mass immigration.

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Free markets require two regulations. One, Import Tariffs to keep the economy competitive and preserve British Jobs and two controlled immigration with a meritocratic point system.

These are just my opinions. I'm not an Anarchist, An Cap or a pure Libertarian

Good thread. Lolbertarianism is a shit tier ideology.

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Better than Communism or Fascism

Libertarianism requires open borders, yes. But it also requires abolishing the welfare state and guarantees the right to discriminate. Individuals could choose to not interact with foreigners. How long do you reckon shitskins will stay if the local white community won't grant them access to basic needs?

I think that in a radical freedom society, the only people migrating anywhere are the ones that can sustain themselves economically *and* also want to fully become a member of the host nation, adopting its identity completely. There would be no other choice since anything else would lead to ostracism.

All this being said I do vote for nationalistic anti-immigration parties because there are no legitimate freedom parties.

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Right-conservative traditionalist libertarianism is the way too go.
Authoritarian commies eat your heart out

Those complaining about libertarians supporting 'open borders' (I.e. free travel of goods and labor) forget that libertarianism has no welfare state. Shitskins won't show up if you don't 'gib dem da free shid'.

Why? Why is it impossible to have a free market as well as having an enforced border?

Conservatives and LIbertarians can work together.

kek

No libertarianism doesn't mean open borders you cucks, seeing as how are collective resources a libertarian society would have to share. Not to mention social cohesion.

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>implying this isn't divide and conquer tactics to break the libertarian-natsoc Sup Forumsliance against commies.
/leftypol/ bls go

I'm a libertarian and I support Trump. I don't understand why so many libertarians hate him. He is the best candidate in a long time.

Libertarian here. I support your guys right to make memes about my political ideologies, and thank you for exercising your liberty to do so.

So, we know you don't like libertarianism , but what is your ideology and how does it differ from it?

>Inb4 muh open borders
>Inb4 muh roads
Call "libertarianism" what you like but most libertarians support stronger borders.

>free market
>open borders
These 2 have nothing to do with each other.

Authoritarians are retarded.

Also, you are not an authoritarian if you want open borders.

Paleoconservatism is the best right-wing ideology.

>In a long time
>forgetting/being too young to remember RP

Newfag

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>moving to Somalia

>Le Somalia meme
>Implying Somalia has contract enforcement, guaranteed rights, or rule of law

I'm talking about candidates that actually made it onto the ballot on voting day. Ron Paul was great, but he stood no chance in the primaries.

Neither of those two are great, but Fascism is better than Libertarianism

>he stood no chance in the primaries
Again, I repeat : newfag

>I think that in a radical freedom society, the only people migrating anywhere are the ones that can sustain themselves economically *and* also want to fully become a member of the host nation, adopting its identity completely. There would be no other choice since anything else would lead to ostracism.
Considering this is exactly what happened in America's past before welfare and fairly open boards this isn't really an assumption it is an educated opinion with historical precedent.

So having a one party state government where you are not allowed to have any opinion other that what the government deems right is somehow good? Jesus Christ mate

Ah yes, my mistake. I remember now that Ron Paul easily won the nomination and became president in 2008 and again in 2012.

>but Fascism is better than Libertarianism
Fascism has failed nearly as uniformly as Communism.
From fdr to Mussolini to fascist Spain.

>not believing we can have a high trust society if we keep the European white population over 80%.
We just need more whites.

Your memory serves you well. Good post.

As long as they support the ideas that I support, its great.

To get people to believe in one idea can be only done though indoctrination and propaganda. Which in turn requires state control. If you want everyone to think the same and act the same then you are a Fascist. I don't think like you, I don't want to think like you. Fuck Communism. Fuck Fascism. Fuck Heavy Authoritarianism. Fuck you

whites under true capitalism

>conquered the world, multiplied like rabbits, built culture, 0% degeneracy

whites under socialism

>no will you achieve anything, yolo party, the government will fix it if I fuck up

I thought you were smart, Sup Forums.

>I support authoritarianism and oppressive government
>just not the (overwhelmingly prevalent) left wing kind
Ok lol enjoy getting your shit pushed by a left wing nanny state

I watched the entire debate to hear that part. It did not disappoint.

Theres no more freedom

So you hate the individual and economic freedoms?

it's just like talking to one of Obongo's supporters
>why are you giving Obama all of this state power?
>I support his ideas so it's great
>but what about anyone that would succeed him? are you comfortable with them having that power as well?
>I support his ideas so it's great

You specified earlier that it wasn't great so I'm not really knocking you here, it's just eerily similar to conversations I had back when Obama was more popular with the general public

No, it just doesnt exist anymore.

Well it will exist in every human being who believes in it.

>Evola among a group of plebs
ABSOLUTELY DECADENT

Lol ok. Enjoy your free fucking, free trade super immigrant, 3rd world tier shithole with no industry

We are more capitalist than ever, white conquer the world under strong authoritarian rulers

Not what I'm advocating for but you enjoy your authoritarian nanny state nightmare.

Well if you're advocating for individual and economic freedom, thats what you will get.

Freedom requires borders and small state

Wrong.

It requires no borders (freedom of travel) and a big state/government to make sure everybody has their freedoms

That's why personal interest and freedom must stay under the common good

How can you have economic freedom if you dont allow business to employ foreigners? Its their choice to employ who they want. And if someone wants to be a tranny cum dump that likes to spread hiv, who are you to stop them.

*And individual freedom

You can let them employ foreigners ffs! Just not under a free movement systems

What if I told you Libertarians want you to be Authoritarian Nationalists if that's what makes you happy, does not infringe upon constitutional rights or natural balance of a stable society.

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Why not?

That's why you can't accept pure economic freedom and individual liberty who are dangerous for the society.

(I know it's certainly my fault for the misunderstanding, i can't sometimes explain me propelry)

Oh look an Italian Fascist, What's next a Russian Commie? Big Government interferes in the daily lives of its citizens and you have the freedom to travel you just have to go through border checks and make sure the country you're are going to needs or wants you.

But in a free society, who are you to determine who can do what?

Who is going to help you when your freedoms get infringed upon? The government. And border checks impair on freedom to travel as much as a permit infringes on one's right to bear arms

>itt Iceland desperately tries to be cool

People can't integrate if they come migrate in the masses. It also harms the job chances of low skill British workers due to the overabundance of workers in the job market

>you need to sacrifice some freedoms to the big government so you can have these bigger freedoms
>but sacrificing some freedoms of other people to come in(borders) isn't okay that's not going to help secure freedom
you're contradicting yourself in the same post m8

>implying America didn't already experiment with a Laissez Faire business policy and restrictive borders

What even is the post-Civil War if not precisely that?

I support gun rights and border controls. I'm not an Anarchist or a pure LIbertarian. Government has a role in society just not an all seeing, all knowing, powerful super state.

It's not a free society, people can leave if they want more liberty.
Moral law value are above the citizen.

I'm not a libertarian at all if it's not clear

But you're removing freedoms

Link pls

>freedom = open borders meme
Sup Forums is hitting new lows

How can you enjoy freedoms if terrorists are blowing you up 24/7? How can you enjoy freedoms if you can't move freely?

So if you're allowed to enforce morality on the people, why cant I enforce what I like in my fascist country?

I'M NOT A PURE LIBERTARIAN FFS HOW IS IT SO HARD TO GET THAT YOU AUSTRALIAN FASCIST!?

>Cherrypicking ugly libertarians (from the Libertarian Party, which is predominately statist, I should add)
Not that the appearance of an ideology's believers should impact your opinion of it. That's behaviour more appropriate of teenage girls.

Respek

also loo

So you have fascist elements?

I know right. That's like me saying if you like goverment you're literally a Fascist

You can move freely. It's better than having police everywhere "papers, please".

I agree, how can you enjoy freedoms if terrorists are free to enter your state and then blow you up 24/7?

No. Being Pro Border Control isn't fascist.

>what is a passport?

>muh utopia

Yes, but you're forgetting libertarianism is literally 100% lawless anarchy