why is it that seemingly so few conservatives/right-wingers in general are into the more experimental and esoteric side of music? as someone who's generally right-of-center this especially sucks when meeting new people because in my experience it's almost impossible to discuss art with these people; they're almost always stiff as fucking bricks. it doesn't help that you have hugely popular idiots like paul joseph watson telling unsuspecting victims how and what to think in regards to art.
all i ask for is a trump-supporting friend whom i can talk about the history of something like musique concrete with.
Leo Allen
i'm p socially conservative and love experimental music but i hate trump. sorry
Jackson Miller
This is why RYM is a bad thing, you have all these young kids encountering experimental music without understanding any of the background or music history behind it.
The answer is that Experimental/Avant-garde music is inherently anti-status quo, pro-progress, about the adaptation of ideals and policy over time. Schoenberg was a Marxist, Russolo was a Marxist, etc.
Conservatism is inherently about preservation of values. It's about retaining the past. It's not about dismantling the establishment.
David Flores
>why is it that seemingly so few conservatives/right-wingers in general are into the more experimental and esoteric side of music? because they tend not to be drug users and that shit is druggie music
Oliver Sanders
kek this
Luis King
>but i hate trump :( 1. i don't see what RYM has to do with any of this, sounds like you're just itching to attack some self-tailored character here. either way, irrelevant 2. i'm aware of schoenberg and russolo's backgrounds but i still don't see why so many conservatives (and liberals with that said) think their political leanings have to govern every single aspect of their worldview like this.
nuh uh
John Martin
I'm a literal burkean conservative who listens to Sparks, Les Rallisez denudes, Pop group, Suicide, Moondog. The list goes on
Adrian Baker
>i don't see what RYM has to do with any of this I'm talking about the unfettered ability to access music in general. RYM is the epicenter of this though. >but i still don't see why so many conservatives (and liberals with that said) think their political leanings have to govern every single aspect of their worldview like this. Because culture/art is inherently political you numbnuts.
Henry Gutierrez
Because open mindedness tends to be an important quality in enjoying experimental music, and conservatives tend to be the opposite of that. They're exactly the kind of people to describe something as "just noise lol" or imply that there "real" music needs "real" instruments. Conservatives nowdays also tend to be stalwartly anti-intellectual, and so theyre quick to deride anything thats even a bit out there as pretentious.
Jackson Campbell
>why is it that seemingly so few conservatives/right-wingers in general are into the more experimental and esoteric side of music?
for the same reason that fewer right wingers want open borders. they prefer order and the familiar to chaos and the mysterious
Logan Green
Just to clarify, talking about social conservatives here, not economic. Though a lotta experimental stuff tends to shit on capitalism as well, though not necessarily intelligently lol
James Rodriguez
You seem really inexperienced.. your post just isn't true, go out in the real world.
Adrian Reyes
>Because culture/art is inherently political you numbnuts. this does not matter to a centrist, even if you are right
furthermore i don't understand why you have these seemingly really bright conservatives out there willing to think past their initial thoughts/feelings (especially those often dominated by left-wingers) and debate circles around people but when they start talking about music and art they completely shut the fuck down. it just really sucks.
honestly i know the answer is right in front of me and you guys are all correct here but it just SUCKS and i wish it wasn't such a prevalent phenomenon
Jayden Bennett
Are you not allowed to have liberal friends?
David Williams
no i have plenty of liberal friends not the point dude
Jacob Robinson
yes otherwise the cognitive dissonance starts to set in
Carson Morales
>shits on RYM Thanks for ousting yourself as a journalist fearing for the future of his pointless career. Pretty crazy to think that some people do what you to for free, and sometimes better. The reason why leftists are associated with "better" music is because CIA social engineering programs decided in the late 40's that any kind of "youth culture" movement would be co-opted by left-wing academia in order to generate results such as the masses voting more power to the Federal Government so the Federal Government can fix problems the Federal Government caused. Every right-wing musician either doesn't have a job, or is sitting on their hands.
Evan Martinez
uh
Justin Sanders
>conservative
The clue is in the name,
Austin Johnson
nigga, who the fuck cares which political opinions artists have?
Brody Allen
you sound like more of a retard than the retard in your pic
Chase Allen
Let's be honest, any person who thinks free market capitalism and bank lending are at all a sustainable and ethical model for society is delusional and/or lacks critical thinking. I support Trump as a meme and I love experimental/avantgarde music, but the second Bernie gets an actual nomination I'm voting for him.
Tyler Green
>says capitalism doesn't work >votes for the political ideology with the worst track record of all time when hmmmmm
Jacob Young
Capitalism has lasted longer than any Communist country, bud
Gavin Wood
you can always hang out with avantmath, he's now in his redpill phase
Luke Clark
checked
Nicholas Smith
>comparing an economic system to a political system really triggers my ASMR