USA doubled their population in 60 years

>USA doubled their population in 60 years
>Population of Russia is almost the same what it was 60 years ago

Say what you want, but immigrants is a powerful force driving an economy.

European leaders opened the EU borders not because they hate your countries, but to prevent stagnation, ensure growth, and make sure Europe remains relevant in the shadow of giants like the US and upcoming China.

Their only mistake not forcing these immigrants to integrate. US system was needed instead of this multi-culti bullshit that was fated to fail.

>European leaders opened the EU borders not because they hate your countries, but to prevent stagnation, ensure growth, and make sure Europe remains relevant in the shadow of giants like the US and upcoming China.
they are selling the people out to make sure the rich stay rich
great, can't wait to have US-tier crime rates and social/racial tensions
without the freedom

>this topic
>that flag
Immigration in the US is extremely cherry picked, they haven't accepted unchecked waves of strangers for hundreds of years. Believing that one simple factor governs the balance of power in the world is childish.

There are many other ways to promote growth in our European nations, financial incentives for families and Propaganda of family life has shown to do wonders for a nations population (see Finland and soon Hungary). Some of our nations, mine for example, are already filled to bursting with people, land and resources are finite, and letting your population shrink in a controlled manner is not a bad thing

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I don't care if France is irrelevant against the US.

Well done Cohen, population = capital.

However, Europeans could just increase the birthrate instead of being diluted with illiterate third world immigrants?

You know, by giving native parents tax relief and subisided childcare, instead of taxing natives more to pay for immigrant welfare.

>Israel

Also, you're a fucking retard. The only reason Russia's population stayed the same was because of immigration. The birth rate was well below 2 in the 90s and 00s.

Now, there's a bunch of tajiks in Moscow which do nothing but clog up the streets and try to sell you illegal sim cards

>Immigration in the US is extremely cherry picked

Exactly, and that's what EU needs instead of accepting all kinds of scum.
But adopting isolationism like what most posters here would want, is a pure autism and a great way to stagnate and ruin your countries.

Israel isn't doing that great. Maybe you guys could use a little boost as well.

So why does not Israel do the same?

Isolationism doesn't solely rest on your immigration policy, it extends across all of your international policies. But Europe does not need outside immigration, the vast majority of the USA's immigrants have always come from Europe. We are an advanced continent, we can make our own doctors, our own scientists, there is no reason for any mass influx of foreign people's when the EU functions as it was intended to, allowing European workers to find employment and having our nations trade freely.

Our countries are ancient, and will not crumble from the lack of Pakistanis.
Your argument would see our people lose faith in themselves to build their own future, when we have infact been doing that since the beginning of time

>all people are worth something

Well, no.
There is literally nothing wrong with immigration as long as it is well controlled.
Hell, if a million scandinavian engineers and doctors would cross the German/Danish border I would be one of the people clapping for them.
But something like pic related? It will only do harm to a society and a culture (the reason why the US is a bad example in the first place).

We don't need to, Israel's population quadrupled in the last 50 years!
We were 2 million in 1960, and over 8 million now, while still having a sufficient high natural birth rate ensuring a healthy economy growth.

Jews are usually educated and intelligent people, and Jews got into Israel to have their own country.

If immigration works why don't you let some of these immigrants coming to Europe? Syria isn't far away, I bet some would like to live in Israel.

Except Russia actually had to sacrifice millions in the war while USA just profited

>Population of Russia is almost the same what it was 60 years ago

Implying it's bad

1) We have very few number of good warm clay

2) russian economy is based on selling oil and gas

We don't need 300, 500, 700 mln people

We need our people to live in good territory, bad territories could be almost empty

Good example is canada

>china above Russia
kek even our rusty military can btfo chinese
all shit they have is just poorly modernized soviet shit we don't even use anymore

Population of Japan and Russia in 1950: 200 million
Population of Japan and Russia 2100: 200 million

Population of Niger 1950: 19.7 million
Population of Niger 2100: 201 million

Answer

Be a Niger.

And Germany's population is exactly the same as in 1950.

As we all now, because of this lack of growth, Germany is the economic problem child of Europe and in a deep economical depression with high unemployment.

Isnt it mostly orthodox jews and arabs breeding?

Yea

Israel got coup'd by haredis in the last year

Experts say it is even going to be worst in the future.
We will have less workforce, but Industry 4.0, automatisation and robots will kill enough jobs that it works out quite well.

Am I drunk?
>*it is not even going to be worse in the future

>and letting your population shrink in a controlled manner is not a bad thing
it is for the economy and the national finances. Who's going to pay your social security once you get to 70?

The UK has been gripped with a housing crisis for many years mate, our young people have nowhere to go, and the problem is made worse by immigration. That is stagnation, our new generations cannot climb the ladder.
>social security
Our elderly are already cared for as best we can provide for them. Sometimes there is not always a way out, our country is full, plain and simple. If people wish to be provided for when they are old they should get a pension

No. Ratio of Arabs to Jews remained unchanged, and while Orthodoxes do have high births, they're only about 10% of the population now.