>He purposefully took her to an isolated area, away from all of the party goers, to an area that was dimly lit, and assaulted her on the ground behind a dumpster. He deliberately took advantage of the fact that she was so intoxicated that she could not form a sentence, let alone keep her eyes open or stand. This behavior is not typical assaultive behavior that you find on campus, but it is more akin to a predator who is searching for prey.[16] >Brock Turner has cited his "inexperience" with alcohol as a factor in his judgement the night of January 18, 2015. However, it has been reported that Turner was not truthful about his extensive experience with drugs and alcohol, with evidence from his phone indicating a years-long pattern of recreational drug and alcohol use.[20]
Can't you Americans do something about this? Not only is a predatory rapist, and a rotten person, but also a pathological liar.
Luke Price
Don't you have your own rape issues to be ignoring?
Ayden Stewart
He's going to jail. What more do u want Muhammad
Kevin Turner
Can't you do something about the refujihadists?
Hudson Turner
prison
14 years prison is the cap for the sentence, he should get at least 6
Jose Lewis
why are you cucks making 20 threads about this
I don't need to know about this
Brody Hughes
He did get 6 Months
Christian Sanders
That sick fuck need to knifed down im prison after getting raped by good amount of nigger.
Cooper Cook
But why was he not bullied into submission from day one?
I mean, look at that fuckung geek. Who invites him to parties anyway?
Charles Torres
If he was a nigger Sup Forums would be outraged.
Owen Gomez
His life is already totally ruined. What else do you want?
Austin Peterson
it's not just one case
white privileged men raping women on campus happens all the time, just this time 2 Swedes caught him
how was his life ruined when he gets out of jail in 6 months? He's out by NYE
Zachary Nelson
more jail time i mean, 6 months? for real?
Asher Flores
fpbp
Brody Allen
The story I heard was that they were both super drunk, the difference being that he didn't lose consciousness at a point during the incident. And he said it was consensual. So I don't understand why the general public is treating this as if it's a clear cut case of him stalking and preying on this woman and forcing her to fuck when it seems like it's more a case of, both persons being super drunk and consenting to fuck, and him being too drunk to stop after she passed out. She doesn't even remember the incident....
Logan Morales
He is in jail for 6 months. MONTHS. for rape
Your country is fucked
Luke Reyes
t. Ahmed
Gabriel Clark
>white privileged men raping women on campus happens all the time, just this time 2 Swedes caught him
you should probably leave and never come back
Juan Garcia
>rape is a bad thing
lots of underages in this thread, it seems
now give me those (You)s, tumblr
Julian Martin
She was drunk and does not remember if she initiated sex or even freely participated. She remembers nothing. His sentence is based on the fact that a inebriated person can not consent to sexual acts. It's a fucking technicality! Drunk people fuck all the time!!
Adrian Mitchell
He's a registered sex offender So for the rest of his life he'll have to go door to door telling his neighbors that.
All for finger banging a chick. She was willing but then passed out. He should have stopped there but he didnt. Thus the penalty. It's a pretty open and shut case.
Ryan Peterson
>Implying he hasn't already been sentenced
Xavier Rogers
This case has similarities to the Luke Lazarus case in Australia, he went to jail for 1 year. Moral of the story is: don't take compromised girls into alley ways for your own gratification, the lines are blurred at best but the most likely scenario is you've abused your power in the situation, as Brock clearly has.
Julian Robinson
>6 month in jail >life ruined He is basically on a vacation. I bet he's rich too. So he will have no problems getting his education and eventually a job once he gets out.
Joshua Kelly
>She was willing but then passed out.
>dead-drunk chick, literally asleep >willing
You know nothing about life.
Luke Butler
He has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. And sex offenders are all lumped together. So when people hear that he's on the registry, he's lumped in with the child predators, when in reality, he and some chick both got hammered and she passed out and was clearly ashamed of her actions, and the women hold the upper hand when it comes to these types of incidents. She can say she was too drunk that she can't be held responsible for begging for his dick, but he can't be too drunk to be held responsible for obliging her. Assuming that it happened that way. She doesn't remember too he incident at all though.
Cameron Cooper
There's nothing we can do about this because suggesting anything other than "telling rapists not to rape" is victim blaming and will get you labeled a sexist.
Thanks to modern day feminism it has never been easier for rapists to rape women.
Hudson Parker
I just can't feel sympathy towards him.
Benjamin Russell
>how was his life ruined when he gets out of jail in 6 months? He's out by NYE He's on the sex offender registry. He will never have a decent job in his life nor will he be able to get back into school. ^ The registry is a far worse punishment than jail.
Robert Garcia
Cool. But I'm not saying that he's totally innocent, I just don't think he's the monster the public is making him out to be. He's an idiota yes, and so is she. To be honest this whole issue is too complicated for me to say if 6 months is too much or too little. Either way it's not really completely fair.
Bentley James
Multiple accounts of them dancing grinding and kissing through the night, despite her being in a relationship. She agrees to go to his dorm room. They don't make it and he crosses the line. I'm not sure what point your trying to make.
Elijah King
>There's nothing we can do about this
yes, you can, sentence people according to the law
Juan Jones
proper justice, he's getting off light because he was a dudebro with some scholarship but that doesn't exempt you from the law; he committed and was convicted of 3 felonies.
yeah his life is ruined, so is hers but more so. he deserves worse than he got
>implying you can consent when you're drunk >or even as drunk as they were
nah
John Collins
>He's on the sex offender registry. >He will never have a decent job in his life nor will he be able to get back into school.
He's rich you moron. Some of his daddy's friends will employ him regardless.
Owen Ramirez
He was drunk too, why should he be punished the same as a sober person?
Colton Taylor
>Multiple accounts of them dancing grinding and kissing through the night, despite her being in a relationship.
[citation needed]
Jayden Rivera
Not saying you should, or that anyone should. It's just that cases like this have so much grey area and it's weird that just because you have a dick that makes you responsible for your actions while drunk, but if you're actions woman you get to wake up in vomit actions and say "whoops" But at the same time you can't punish her as she did nothing wrong. It's just a fucked up situation and it's not black and white like too many other people want to make it
Christopher Cox
>He's on the sex offender registry. >He will never have a decent job in his life nor will he be able to get back into school. Shouldn't have raped.
trust fund too
John Johnson
So rich people should be pinoshed in excess of the law?
Brandon Fisher
There's nothing "to do about it." Rapists gonna rape. No amount of telling people not to commit crimes will stop them from committing crimes. You should know this better than anyone, Hans. The only thing "to do" is prosecute the criminals properly, which obviously didn't happen. This bitch needs to be in prison for 15
Asher Foster
He wasn't drunk, didn't you read the OP? He was an experienced alcohol and drug user. She wasn't.
Eli Smith
>so is hers but more so Do you really, honestly believe that? Do you seriously think an attractive collage age girl has had her life ruined because some guy diddled her while she was passed out? Nope. Businesses have to publicly report that shit. That's why nobody hires these people in the first place. Nobody wants the risk of one of their clients saying "So I hear you employ a convicted rapist"
Angel Harris
Go read her victim statement it's all in there
Gavin Perez
lol love how you toot this horn that the registry is the ultimate punishment. long term yeah, sure.
take into account that he got CONVICTED and didn't even once apologize or express remorseful for his sexual assault for which he was C O N V I C T E D. just because he had a swimming scholarship means he gets off light though according to the judge?? that's a load of garbage, there's no way to justify it
he's a piece of shit kid, but it isn't wholly his fault. it's an example of why our culture is fucked up.
Colton Ortiz
6 years for rape is not excess, but justice
Zachary Garcia
Who cares? You're still responsible for the shit you do when you're under the influence.
>>Not saying you should, or that anyone should No, what you're saying is: "Poor lad, commited a crime and now he has to pay for it? What a terrible world we live in!"
Tyler Jones
fuck off troll
Aaron Wilson
The truth of the matter is if the genders were reversed he is still getting punished more harshly than any woman would be (because she probably wouldn't receive any punishment at all).
Until the day come where women are given accountability for their sexual actions while drunk the same way men are I could care less about this case.
Dylan Cruz
That's my point though. She can't be held responsible for her actions in saying "yes, I wish to have your dick inside of me" but he can be held responsible for believing her and following through? Both of them were most likely fucking hammered. So how can only one persons drunken actions be a bad, while them the others is forgiven? I'm not saying I have the answer to that question because I don't. But anyone who thinks it's black and white with a clearly defined line is a little out of touch.
Dylan Anderson
>She wasn't
She was a self proclaimed ""party animal"" Who thought her partying experience would allow her to drink a lot. She says it herself in her statement. She didn't know you could lose alcohol tolerance you gain in college
Jacob Powell
Should be 15, at least, if it's completely provable
Brody Williams
I'm not condoning him or anything. He's definitely a piece of shit with a thoroughly punchable face but no convicted sex offender ever gets off light because the registry usually leads to suicide. The kid was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and now his life is completely and irrevocably fucked. I can't imagine he's going to last long in this brave new world of his.
Adam King
Exactly this!
I swear to god, the top 5% of the smartest Sup Forums posters are almost all Americans.
Same as with Ron Paul threads. Surprises me every time.
Matthew Wood
did you read her statement?
do you honestly think she's fine? are you that fucking stupid? i swear i know the average Sup Forums user leans to the right on almost all social issues, and will even go so far as regurgitate anything in opposition of tumblr/reddit bogeyman, but seriously?
how she looks has nothing to do with it. sexual assault and rape are inexcusable and can seriously, heavily damage someone for a very long time.
why don't you try for once to feel some compassion you stupid fuck
Brandon Thompson
No, I'm not saying that at all actually
Noah Miller
>be a virgin on the sex offender registry as a rapist
Damn man just think about that. It's like being arrested for poaching lions after killing one in defense when it attacks you. Even if you egged it on, it's just silly.
Juan Mitchell
trust fund.
what? if the lady was fingering the guy?
>usually leads to suicide. I don't really care.
Lucas Powell
> based German for once So how the fuck did he get off so light? Lawyer ties? Incredibly rich family? Wtf is going on
Logan Smith
I doubt he is a virgin.
>It's like being arrested for poaching lions after killing one in defense when it attacks you hahaha what?
Brandon Bailey
Honestly guys put yourself in the position of her brother, or her father. Imagine this guy sneaking around your house putting his filthy fucking hands on your daughter, your grace. Fucking animal. Just read the testimony. Fucking bully.
Henry Roberts
>usually leads to suicide.
That's irrelevant for the law. We are talking about proper rule of law here, nothing else.
When you start to bend laws because of connections, your country will be ruined eventually.
Joshua Flores
>Who cares? You're still responsible for the shit you do when you're under the influence if you're a man
FTFY
Women have no responsibility for their actions when drunk so why would I care if men are given less like in this case? As far as I'm concerned men should have no responsibility for their actions when drunk, or women should have as much responsibility as men, either works for me. As it stands now he shouldn't receive any punishment for his actions since if a drunk girl is given no responsibility for her actions while drunk than its only fair a man shouldn't either.
Kayden Sullivan
>finally finger bang nurse >she reports you for rape Can't catch a break
Jace Rivera
did she consent? is that definitively proven by anything?
no, there's no proof but his word. consider the facts that she had tissue damage and abrasions inside her vagina as well as dirt and pine needles, and the guy fucking ran away when people saw him fingering her by a goddamn dumpster.
oh but it's fine, they were both drunk so how can we blame him right? clearly she was okay with this and he asked her if it was okay that he could finger her.
seriously why don't you fucks just read her statement
i'm honestly baffled that anyone could think there's any debate here. the kid was convicted of sexual assault. the girl didn't do anything wrong. the kid now gets a light sentence, which is a load of horse shit. there is no debate here
Luke Garcia
you could try to contact people in his jail, or find gangster types on twitter/fb in the area with friends inside
Jason Edwards
I think part, if not the whole, of it is that he left her behind a dumpster. Not bringing her with him was probably his downfall
Ayden Morales
not only should he not get 6 months, he should get not time at all and also a medal
Mason Butler
I feel compassion in amounts that are due. I feel very little compassion for a girl who acted like a complete fucking idiot and got off EXTREMELY easily. She could have been ACTUALLY raped, or assaulted or murdered but she wasn't. She got a finger in her vagina for a few minutes that she likely wasn't even lucid for.
No. This didn't change her life and she, like many victims thrown into the spotlight, is milking it for all it's worth.
Allow me to reiterate, though, I think the faggot that diddled her a complete piece of shit and deserves to have his life ruined. >trust fund. 1) they're finite 2) there will likely be a civil suit as well that tears that to shreds >>usually leads to suicide. >I don't really care. Nor do I. Just making the point that it's effectively a slow, prolonged death sentence. I'm talking about crime and punishment. There are many other ways to punish people aside from locking them in a cinder block room with free meals.
Tyler Jackson
Friendly reminder that all he did was stick a finger in her vagina. She was black out drunk and remembers nothing. He was drunk. If you listened to the goddamn half hour long, 7000 word statement that they read commercial free on CNN, it has this sappy statement about how >muh life will never be the same I'm the ultra-mega-100%finalform-victim I will always carry this with me please pay attention to me more
No dicks, no hymens popped, no rape babies or hush money. A blackout drunk guy stuck his finger in the vagina of a blackout drunk girl.
Adrian Young
Are you serious? Is this your first day here or something and you're trolling for points? How can you be any kind of Sup Forumslack at all, knowing how degenerate and broken our court system is, and say this is an open-and-shut case simply because the judge made a ruling? Are you legitimately retarded?
James James
Peoples inhibitions are lower when they are drunk, yes, but also their moral compass is harder to hear.
Also this.
>implying you can consent when you are drunk
If you cant consent when drunk, can you know that your actions are wrong? Does he even remember the incident at all?
Cooper Martin
No as if a drunk girl consents to sex having sex with her is rape because she is drunk and has no responsibility for consenting, so why should a drunk guy who was given consent to have sex and then fingered a girl have responsibility for his actions? His punishment is fine and punishing him like he was sober is retarded.
Joseph Cooper
wait so did he fuck her or just put a finger in her?
Jackson Martinez
>Drunk sex >Rape
Nope
>took her away from other partygoers
He didn't fuck her on the dance floor? Must be rape, everyone fucks out in the open.
Ayden Hernandez
Because he was almost as wasted as she was...
Jaxon Morris
>the girl didn't do anything wrong Fisrt she was 23. That's a woman not girl Second. If taking your little sister to a frat party, getting blackout drunk and ditching her is considered good behavior it's no wonder the moral fabric of western society it's falling apart.
Ayden Morris
Just fingered her for a few minutes.
Anthony Jenkins
>He will never have a decent job
You realize if you dedicate yourself to starting your own business it's really not that hard. There are so many options.
Camden Evans
you're speaking out of turn and you obviously have no fucking clue what you're talking about. trivializing sexual assault? are you really that brainwashed by this shitty website and board?
she was SEXUALLY ASSAULTED you dumb fuck. that's ASSAULT like you said.
go ahead and read her statement, oh wait you won't because you're a slob of a human who's blinded by his own close mindedness.
i can't believe i'm reading these posts, like just how much of the pol meme can someone buy into? i'm being trolled right?
Asher Flores
> Clarity finally What would you make the sentence? Or rather, do you feel this is a just one?
Hudson Ortiz
>"I'm talking about crime and punishment."
>The United States Sentencing Commission, which establishes sentencing guidelines and policies for federal courts, recommends between eight and 20 years for convicted rapists
his crime was rape, the punishment is between 8 and 20 years
doesn't really matter much to the law
Dylan Bailey
^^This ID = reddit troll. Just a friendly PSA.
Jose Hernandez
So her getting so fucking drunk that she fell asleep behind a dumpster is her doing nothing wrong? And yes that's the only evidence of it being consensual is his word. But that's all it takes for a person to be arrested on rape charges. Someone's word. It's not a black and white case, it's way more complicated than you're making it
Isaac Murphy
She was drunk and does not remember if she initiated sex or even freely participated. She remembers nothing. His sentence is based on the fact that a inebriated person can not consent to sexual acts. It's a fucking technicality! Drunk people fuck all the time!!
Joshua Cooper
>sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object -- fall under the Justice Department's definition of rape: "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
Asher Jenkins
Almost everyone will fight tooth and nail to keep family, their children in particular, from serving long sentences in jail regardless of whether or not they believe they are guilty. Often even if they themselves were the victims of the crimes.
My brother used to be a drug addict and my parents always avoided involving police. The few times they did, it was usually because they were worried for someone's (usually his) safety and even then, they agonized over the decision and still supported him emotionally and financially.
People don't want their family going somewhere they may be viciously beaten, raped and could come out after 10+ years with even worse mental conditions.
Jaxon Hill
I understand that, but leaving her there (a stereotypical rape setting) was a bad idea. Why didn't he just bring her with him
Ayden Gutierrez
She didn't even remember the incident. I read a tiny bit of her letter, and most of it is probably due to her own shame for allowing that to happen to herself, and disguising it as being traumatized by what the guy did. Because she doesn't even remember what the guy did...
Benjamin Gray
They were both wasted and they both consented to having sex. Should he be punished for doing shit after she passed out? Yes, should he be severely punished? No, they were both drunk and both previously gave consent, you can't make good decisions when drunk which is why fucking a drunk girl when sober can be considered rape, why should he have full responsibility for bus actions when he was drunk when a woman has 0 responsibility for her actions when she is drunk regardless if she is conscious or not not
Luke Anderson
i don't come to Sup Forums often, i don't identify with any particular part of the site
i'm not trolling, i'm just pissed off. i don't get what your point is
>girl, woman semantics, whatever.
she didn't take her little sister to the party, it was the other way around. i'm almost at a loss for words for how uninformed, unfamiliar, and unequivocally wrong/misguided/confused you and people who echo your general sentiments in this matter are
Dominic Wilson
>so why should a drunk guy who was given consent to have sex and then fingered a girl wat the person being fingered has to consent too
Jayden Lee
Obviously it is more then that or she wouldn't be pressing charges.
Dylan Collins
Why the hell is a single rape case international news?
It can't be because of the light sentence, women get light (or zero) sentences for violent and sexual offending all the time.
Xavier Foster
Kek. I thought the exact same thing. They're getting worse at hiding themselves
Zachary Gonzalez
drug abuse is a victimless crime, my friend
rape isn't
James Hernandez
He has to publicly declare that he is a registered sex offender. Something tells me that won't attract much business. U wot Was he actually charged and convicted of "rape" or was it some lesser charges associated with the act? I have a feeling it's the latter. Common sense also has a say in the interpretation of the law and it doesn't take a federal judge to tell you there's a difference.
Jordan Thomas
Because he was wasted on drugs and alcohol and not in a rational state of mind...
Liam Garcia
>haha other countries have problems to so ours don't matter when it happens XD
David Morgan
I thought Swedish guys who found them said he was on top of her and humping. Sounded like he got it in both holes as well.
It's awful either way but I think most people feel fingering isn't as much of a violation as dicking.
Ethan Gray
>All these people defending the rapist
It sure is a completely different tone when shit skin rape. Don't defend this shit. Raping is nigger behaviour and should be looked down upon. The guy is rich ffs, he could have easily found a willing woman, which only makes his crime worse.