Are steroids degenerate?

Are steroids degenerate?

Considering our lifestyles and diets (even "healthy diets") are not compatible with civilisation and the bodies we were built to have.

Are steroids the key to VOLKISH bodies?

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>Considering our lifestyles and diets (even "healthy diets") are not compatible with civilisation and the bodies we were built to have
Why? Is this another evolutionary bullshit?

"According to evolution we are predisposed to wipe our asses with toilet papers" kek

No amount of juicing is gonna fix that morons face.

Hello Golden One

You can look like that with about 2-3 years of clen eating and trening hard

ABSOLUTELY VOLKISH

>clen eating

Clenbuterol?

>Considering our lifestyles and diets (even "healthy diets") are not compatible with civilisation and the bodies we were built to have
ths is where the numale comes in, its called evolution.

In many ways they are, and in some ways they aren't.
When used simply to look more buff than you naturall could, it is out of narcism or deep rooted feelings of inadequacy. This is most definitely degenerate.

However, when used to speed up recovery from hard labour or accidents, or to stave off the creep of age past your 50s, I would consider it the right thing to do.

Our bodies weren't made for sitting inside all day. Neither were our bodies designed to eat fast food. The reason we love fast food even when it's unhealthy is because it was beneficial to eat calorie bombs because back then it was uncommon. So our tastes are evolved to eat stuff that was rare but now that it's everywhere it's really shit for us and 99% of all people are unhealthy. The only way you can eat "healthy" nowadays is to be a vegetarian/vegan or eat meat very rarely. That's because our lifestyles aren't compatible with our diets.

If you want to compensate you should go on a small dose of test to get into healthy male hormone levels so you can continue consuming whatever shit you're eating (like I said even healthy diets are shit because of processed stuff and chemicals).

steroids are acceptable ONLY if:
- one has a real testosterone deficiency
- one has aged so much that their T-levels dropped significantly and are causing related health issues

as a performance-enhancer for normal healthy males it's doing more harm than good, destroying one's endocrine system and more, especially so considering it's usually self-administered and procured via black market (even if drugs in question are pharmaceutical grade)

Nu-males are a consequence of shitty lifestyles that aren't compatible with what we evolved to be and social changes.

Maybe if we all stopped with medicine all together and our society theoretically stopped exactly where it is in terms of production etc in 300,000 years our specie would have adapted to civilisation and our tastes would have went form unhealthy food to healthier food, but that will take a long while and something is more than likely to happen along the way.

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>be a vegetarian/vegan or eat meat very rarely. That's because our lifestyles aren't compatible with our diets.
The problem in our diets is what you said in the beginning: huge calorie to nutrients ratios. Good meat is high in protein and has an appropriate amount of calories to fuel you. Vegetables aren't nearly as calorie dense but they provide the majority of the vitamins and of course fiber. The real problem is the inordinate amount of carbohydrates and sugars every is shoving down their gullets. We evolved to eat meat as it gave us way more energy per gram. Carbs followed because farming was a more stable method to get food than hunting. Now like you said the majority of people have no need for all that energy and they're gluttonous. Low/No-carb diets are so successful because they cut out all the sugars that you don't need.

Exactly - but even then, you are still more than likely eating too much salt or chemicals found in your food unless you're a farmer and growing all your food yourself (which by the way is really expensive without enhancers and anti bug spray that makes fruit and food grow faster. Same goes for cattle).

Let's say you do that. But even then you more than likely also have a shitty lifestyle and don't do cardio even once a month, maybe not even once a year, even though our bodies are designed to run several hours per day.
I guess part of this can be attributed to why niggers love fast food so much and are better at running - it's because they aren't evolved to fit civilisation while white people are in a sort of limbo.

The answer of course is steroids, because it's not realistic for anyone to have the lifestyle we used to have as hunter-gatherers since it's not just compatible with our lifestyles. Not even our sleeping cycle is correct, or our mating habits, but sometimes you need to sacrifice health for the comfort of civilisation. If you want both benefits the answer is steroids.

Nephew used them for a while.Muscle man now.
Complains about his joints.

You tell me if they are degenerate.

Reminds me that kimbo slice (a MMA fighter) just died of a heart failure. cause of death = steroids..

Lots of people die all the time, I bet in terms of % more people in the obese group die of heart attack than in the steroid user group.

If you roid responsibly and watch your blood pressure you should be fine.

>roids irresponsibly
>surprised that he has side effect

Funny guy.

>Are steroids degenerate?
Yes.

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Is this what you want to be like user? Is this what you aspire to be? Because it is what you will become.

Heed this be a warning to you all!

yes eating corpses helped during the ice ages, migration and famine....how does that justify you killing animals now though?

>man goes from nu-male cuck to what a man is supposed to be

Lmao. We aren't talking women here.

>Are steroids degenerate?
Yes you're cheating on mother nature

That's the joke lad it's trenning hard and eating clen.

then computers are also degenerate as you are cheating mother nature

You be silent, steroids and any steroid user deserve death and AIDS and it will come to you.

You will die of the AIDS because steroids will turn you into a bottom bitch boy, selling your muscly bum for £5 a go, cheaper than a 6 pack of fosters in Tesco baby.

Ohhhh you gon get fucked boy, U GON GET FUCK FUCKED and all the muscles in the world won't stop a wasp knife blowing your organs apart.

U GON GET SHANKED BITCH.

didn't see the trening hard because I read it as training. Thought it was a typo

You need to be 18 and white to browse this board.

Then fuck off, go snort your steroids and smoke your crack you junkie piece of trash.

Enjoy your AIDS and acne and nightly butt fucks to get your fix.

JUNKIE!

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>Are steroids degenerate?

Yes they are. Your body needs a certain amount of testosterone, if you cross this line the excess will turn into estrogen (female counterpart) and you will get nice woman nipples/tits. Also the excess of testosterone will make you look more primitive: square face, hair on back, bald head.

The dude on the photo doesn't look like he's taking steroids tho.

Only when used to turn women into men.

not if you have clinically low test, which happens to every man as they get older

As someone who has done steroids, yes they are degenerate.

Your natural hormone balances are something of extreme value. Even doing steroids a couple of times can fuck them for life. You may never quite be the man you could of been physically or mentally, and you'll never even know it. And doing just a couple of cycles is not worth it, because you gradually lose the majority of your gains anyway.

The other option is staying on permanently. This is equivalent to being a drug addict, a junkie. After about a year of use, you will never be able to discontinue use. Your natural testosterone levels, as well as many other delicate hormones, will be permanently ruined. You will not be able to get out of bed due to overwhelming depression, unless you stay on.

then what happens when the race war starts? What if you cant acquire your gear anymore? Youre stuck with the hormones of a 12 year old girl while violence rages around you?

Stay natural boyz

>shrunken testicles
>die of a heart attack by the age of 50

pretty degenerate

>shrunken testicles
But that dick to ball ratio right babe?

>But that dick to ball ratio right babe?

Exactly Taiwan, with steroids you can finally shrink your balls to match your penis size.

What?

Major kek 10/10 banta

no
and pic related is natty

> The dude on the photo doesn't look like he's taking steroids tho

lmfao

>steroids
>not using gene doping to inhibit myostatin for sick gains by just living

Science is coming a long way to help the lazy.

youtube.com/watch?v=e4y4yAeUsso
anyone bigger then me is on juice

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Enjoy dying at a 40 years weak-willed faggot.

>Tfw going to the gym for two years and barely made any progress except for strenght

i can easily do 15+ pullups in a row but i still look like a normie fag while my bruv that started juicing looks like a beast after 6 months.

That's genetics, nothing you can do about it.
Try changing diet/exercise routine. After 2 years even with weak genetics you should be packed noticeably.

Clueless.

You're either doing something wrong or you have low test.
If you think you have low test go to a doctor ask for bloodwork and if you do end up having low test you can get free (I assume) TRT.

There are studies done showing that just pinning test grants you 2x the gains of training. Meaning no matter if you train all day for your entire life, you will have 2x the gains just sitting on your ass pinning testosterone. Being big is all about steroids, lifting weights is secondary.

Testosterone is good for you.

Raising your testosterone levels will make you stronger, more confident, happier and less cuck in general.

If men were given mandatory test-e injections once they reach puberty, there would be much less faggotry and leftists in the world.

Anything that makes you go over the edge (like anphetamines or roids) in terms of improving yourself I don't consider degenerate.

Of course it also nothing that should be normaized among the general population.

Low test
or
Not enough protein intake
or
Too much aerobic exercises
or
Too much food with no nutrition value and too much fat

Try getting tested for zinc levels.

marcus pls go

what is and isnt degenerate is subjective

as long as your dick hangs lower than your balls you're fine

They're stupid. Humans didn't evolve to pack on muscle. Our ancestors were lean running machines.

You really should go for the natty David physique if you want to both look aesthetic and have a healthy, long life.

Alright Nu male

Calories make you fat, it's the environmental estrogens that are causing a hormonal problem.

The problem with using anabolic steroids is your natty test levels will actually be lower after you cycle because you are impacting your bodies natural hormone production.

The best things you can do are to eat anti oxidants, reduce inflammation, eat green healthy vegetables (spinach) to help your body be the best it can at producing testosterone itself.

There are also herbs that have been medically proven to increase the amount of free test in your blood stream, healthy sperm production, etc. This is the route I take.fuck I forgot to take mine this morning.

Do your research guys, don't do long term damage to your testosterone production for gains, go natty guys.

If you blast and cruise you are no better then the tranny playing chemistry set with your hormones. Use your brains guys.

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You need fats for your brain, that's how we advanced. Should we stop now? You tell me. What we need is a balanced diet with anti oxidants and green leafy vegetables to balance the inflammation and scarring caused by our diets.

Look into natural remedies.

This. Not worth shutting your endocrine system down. Plus if already "god-tier" white male you should have enough t for great physique..

You can get a body like that in a year or less depending on how your body is and how much you train.

I spent a year on my uncles farm helping around there, and in my off time working out because there wasn't much else to do. Only food I ate was food the farm had. So it was generally organic and extremely healthy.
Honestly wasn't even trying that hard, that's just how it worked out. Seriously, getting fit isn't hard once you stop being lazy.

Nu males haven't worked a day in their lives. I do physical labour and go running all the time. Like men should. Get in the oven gymcel.

I don't know how to tell you this Rodrigo, but humans evolved on the plains of Africa, not gyms full of roidheads. We even sacrificed muscle for brain power.

>the GOLDEN one
>bleaches his hair like a faggot
>poses in homoerotic poses with plastic toys
>uses steroids while claiming natty
>tells everyone to fight for MODDER EURUP
>hides in the Irish countryside

kek

you need to start lifting heavy and "over eating", and not just protein.

Part of being non-degenerate is to go over the edge as you said. To break the rules because you don't give a duck and you want to reach your goal. As long as it's improvement, and not something that is destructive such as crack I don't consider roids degenerate.

Fun fact: Arnold's dad was in the nazi party and joined it willingly. At first he thought bodybuilding was degenerate but then he watched Arnold in a bodybuilding competition and he approves of it.

Not a stormweenie myself but just to let you all know that it sort of goes in line with Sup Forums's ideology, if we look at the ideological reasoning behind steroids.

His hands are out of proportion (too big)

>mentally
Elaborate
>will be permanently ruined
HCG? Arimidex?

How do you feel about therapeutic doses? Getting levels on the high end of normal

Steroids convert test into estorgen and give you tits.

Natty or gtfo. very few people. except zyzz can pull off roids.

Yes they are , what happens if you enter war and can't get your juice ? You are gonna end up with zero test , because you have shut down your natural production and will transform into a complete nu faggot male. Once you pin it's for life , being dependent on pills and injections makes you a semi-useless human being. You can achieve impressive strength and size as a natural athlete as long as you can consistent and have the right approach.

There's not even anywhere to buy steroids online. Who cares?

>zyzz
ye brah pullin it off

>dies in a sauna in thailand at 22

Sup Forums dont lift

Makes me lol when /fit/ claims lifting (in the way they talk about) is healthy and prolongs your life, you'll end up like Zyzz if you take the cheat path or be an arthritic mess by middle age with aching tendons and ligaments.

Normal cardio and lifting in moderation is the key.

>cardio
>good for your health
Pick one and only one, unless you like hardening your arteries and needlessly overworking your heart.

Considering the observed generational decline in its levels it may warrant itself to he as endorsed and subsidized as birth control is. I'm also sure that may not leech into the water supply as much as whorepills do.

Golden one is a pretty based dude, but I don't think he's natty. Honestly, if he weighed 8 kg less, he could easily be natty and he'd still look extremely jacked compared to the average guy. Steroids are totally not worth it.

You must be one of them Ukranian Poles, loving those sandnigger grains.

Loser races are identifiable by their filthy ground foods - potato niggers, Ukrainians, etc.


Genesis 4

>2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

>3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

>4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

>5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

Won't happen. They don't want men to be men. Can't cuck a nation that has high test.

I think Japan has a low test problem, even though they're nationalist as fuck. Being overworked would lower levels, hence the high suicide rate. Add porn and video game addiction to it.